Bob Dildine
John,
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I definitely concur that making changes to the loop filter is the riskiest approach. If the loop tunes the YTO only through the FM coil and not through a combination of FM and main coil, then compensating for too much FM coil sensitivity is probably best done in the FM coil driver. FM coils typically have less than one ohm DC resistance, so it would take a low value resistor to shunt it. Usually there is a single resistor in the FM driver that sets its gain or there is a resistor in series with the FM coil that sets the overall sensitivity of the FM coil and its coil driver. This series resistor is a whole lot greater than the FM coil resistance so it pretty much sets the TC of the combination. Besides, as you point out, the loop can take care of any residual temperature related errors. I wish I had a copy of that portion of the schematic so I could be a little more definitive. Good luck, Bob Dildine W6SFH ________________________________ From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of John Miles Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 13:18 To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP8568B Some good points there. My thinking was that the loop was probably not pretuned at all, or it would not have locked up properly with the incorrect coil-sensitivity figure. But checking with the 8568 manual, it appears they do pretune the main coil with a DAC to make sure it locks to the expected 20-MHz comb tooth. That suggests that any sensitivity discrepancy is limited to the FM coil, rather than the main coil. Not surprising, since main-coil sensitivity seems to be 20 MHz/mA in many YTOs. Any temperature-related errors introduced by shunt resistance across the FM coil should be corrected by the PLL without difficulty. At any rate, the objection I have to altering the loop filter is that it's very hard to be sure you're not causing harm elsewhere. To make the original PLL circuit work seamlessly with a different YIG, you need to change the loop gain without altering its bandwidth, which can be tricky considering that the gain and bandwidth normally changes over the tuning range and, often, during the acquisition process itself. Conversely, to fool the PLL into thinking it's controlling the old YTO, you only have to change one parameter, the YTO's tuning sensitivity. If you're lucky enough to have a more-sensitive YTO, adding shunt resistance across the (non-pretuned) FM coil seems relatively safe... -- john, KE5FX -----Original Message-----> From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Bob Dildine > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:02 PM > To: hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP8568B > > > Gentlemen, > > Trying to adjust loop bandwidth by shunting the YTO tuning coil(s) with a > resistance might not be a very good idea. I'm not familiar with YTO coil > drivers in the HP 8568B, but I designed the main coil and FM coil > drivers in > the HP 8672A synthesizer which preceded the 8568 by a few years... > |