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Re: 3457a on the way
According to the manual, there are only two 'adjustments' that can be made
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on a 3457A, Input Offset Amplifier adjustment and AC Converter Frequency Response, both needed only if there is a 'HARDWARE ERR' failure message after 'TEST' is selected and then only if it is a specific 'AUXERR' or 16 or 256 is seen. Otherwise, all the calibrations are done from the front panel with specific inputs from the front panel. The CALNUM? is incremented by 'several digits' with a 'complete calibration', one for each calibration point entered, per the manual. Interestingly, when I sent my two 3458A's to Agilent for calibration, the CALNUM incremented by only 1. However, when I calibrated one of them before sending it to Agilent, (since I lost the data in the DALLAS CALRAM chip that I was removing) the CALNUM went from 1 to something like 34 or something. I don't recall. It seems that if you have the appropriate software to run the complete calibration protocol, it only increments by '1' instead of by all the data points entered. Such software exists for the 3457A but I have never seen it available 'on theBay'. I suspect Agilent would have that software and equipment to do that calibration and, thus, an Agilent calibration may only increment the CALNUM? by 1. When getting an Agilent calibration of the 3458A, you get 'As Received' and 'As Completed' data. Very helpful to me in that the only two points my 'House CAL' of the one 3458A failed were the two 'midrange' AC Voltage values. All else 'PASSED'. I agree with Dave. If it's HP/Agilent, I prefer Agilent to do the CAL. If it's Solartron, I prefer AMETEK (Solartron), etc. I believe that having some 'basic' professionally calibrated instruments (DMM's, Noise Sources, Power Sensors, Frequency Standards (unless you have a GPSDO, CS Standard, etc.) etc.), that you can then use as 'transfer standards' to do your own 'in house' calibration of other instruments, is very important if you want to set up a reliable workshop. Of course, you will also need a 'stable' source of the various signals that you will use to be 'measured' by the various 'DUT's', such as resistance, voltage, current, frequency, etc. The 3458A is relatively easy to calibrate, requiring only 10.000000 VDC, 10000.000 ohms, and some AC voltage at various frequencies, IIRC. I have never CAL'd a 3457A but the 3478A is a multi-step process. This whole thing can become very 'addictive'. Be careful. Joe -----Original Message-----
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of David Kirkby Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:53 PM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 3457a on the way On 29 December 2012 20:01, Jeff Machesky <jeff@... <mailto:jeff%40codebest.com> > wrote: Thanks Dave, I actually have watched those videos. Bit drawn out likeI thought the bit showing the noise on the DVM was a bit silly when it was connected to a DC power supply. As for the 3457A, if it works I plan on getting it calibrated by AgilentI think the calibration service you chose might dictate whether you get data about the condition when sent. When I send mine in for cal, I'd like to know what was out and by how much. But I'm not going to pay extra for a calibration service that provides that. As far as I'm concerned, if Agilent calibrate it, then it is OK. For me personally, it makes no difference whatsoever if it has ISO, NIST or whatever calibration. But I'd prefer Agilent to someone else. I have calibration certificate here for an Agilent VNA calibration kit. It was done by a calibration house in the USA. But from what I can gather from reading the documentation, the equipment to calibrate them is not available commerically. So it makes me wonder how a lab can calibrate a cal kit, when the equipment to do it can't be bought. I suspect there is a fairly cosy realationship between some test equipment dealers and calibration facilities. I plan on purchasing someI don't know if there are pots in there you can adjust with a trimmer, or if it is all done electronically. You might find it is impossible to calibrate yourself. I never had any reason to look inside mine. Dave |
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