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Re: 3577A multiple problems
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Peter, ? I haven't had time to follow all the emails regarding your 3577A because I'm quite busy at the moment, but I'm sending you this email anyway for information, it's a copy of an email I sent in 2018. I had multiple problems on my 3577A...but no doubt you've already checked all that regarding the power supply. ? ? ? On 12/14/2018 5:29 PM, Yves Tardif wrote: > Hi, > I bought a 3577A several years ago and I had a few times the UNLOCK > message that appeared on the screen with a BEEP sound and lasted less than a second. > I thought then that it was the instability of the PLL 10MHz when > powering on, and the problem disappeared after a few minutes. > Over time, the problem was more common and seemed independent of the > temperature or operating time of the device. But that did not prevent > me from using it. > Recently, the problem became more serious, and the UNLOCK message > appeared with the indication of a possible failure on the A5, A6 or A7 PCBs. > So, I decided to look for the problem so I checked the A5, A6 and A7 PCBs. > The power supplies were stable and rated, the problem was that the > phase detector was no longer receiving feedback from the VCO. > The circuit is a little complex, but I realized that everything was > pointing to the synthesizer, a custom HP circuit. > I noticed when scanning the VCO spectrum that sometimes it stops for a > fraction of a second or more without UNLOCK and then suddenly continues scanning. > On the screen the sweep continued, or sometimes stopped like the VCO. > Several other more rare symptoms were added like, the frozen screen > and a PRESET solved the problem, unwanted characters on the screen, > message ERROR SYTEM # 24 ... > I thought then maybe the processor card was the cause of the problem. > I had already checked the test points at the main power supply and > everything was ok. So, I put an oscilloscope in ROLL mode and monitor > the different voltages for a period of time where there was the > problem ... everything was stable. > So, I decided to monitor the voltage all over the motherboard, and > finally, I discovered that during the intermittent problem, + 5V > suddenly decreased during the period, as low as + 3.9V. > The + 5V of the motherboard comes from a pair of AWG12 or AWG14 > soldered wire that goes to the main power supply where it connects via > a connector (it passes 10A by this link). > The connector was not damaged, no sign of overheating. > After several unsuccessful attempts to repair this connector, I > decided to directly solder the pair of wires from the motherboard > directly to the power supply. > Since that time, all the intermittent problems that they have disappeared. > My 3577A has never worked so well. > For those who have a 3577A and have this kind of intermittent > behavior, the J8 connector may be the cause. >? > Yves >? De?: [email protected] <[email protected]> De la part de Peter Gottlieb via groups.io ? Today I fired up my 3577A to begin to do some tests.? It has been sitting in my lab, fully environmentally controlled, for several years unpowered.? It was working perfectly when it was put away. ? Immediately I got a trace memory failure, shows as banks 2 and 6. ? I ran further tests and got failures: Log sweep signal level test Log sweep flatness test Linear sweep signal level test Linear sweep flatness test Synthesizer and LO test ? So I checked the power supplies and reference, all look great.? Hmmm, what could be a common cause then? ? I started with the trace memory.? I put in a bunch of sockets and moved around chips.? Indeed two of the 2k x 8 Toshiba RAM chips appear to be bad as the failure follows them to whatever bank I plug them into. ? Anyone else just have these chips die while sitting around unused? ? As I need to order replacements I will have some time to probe around.? Apparently something else has failed just sitting around. ? Any thoughts as to where I should start? ? |