Here's an image of the relevant page from edition 1. The offending line seems to be "And it is common to refer to S11 informally as the input impedance of the network". For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of that line either, but I'd be curious to hear what Joel says about this statement.
On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 3:50 PM <n8zmTWH@...> wrote:
Frankly, I don't see that S11 statement as an error. While technically, S11 is the measured reflection coefficient, it is that value which is used, along with the system characteristic impedance, to calculate the device impedance. So when Dunsmore makes that statement, he is simply jumping over the intermediate calculation step to point out that S11 gives you Z. In the context of the discussion, this does not seem to be an error, but rather a bit of enlightening illumination in case the reader has not yet made that small leap.
Tom, N8ZM
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Thanks David - I will probably buy the HP book first and then see if I?
still have interest in the R&S book.
I am concerned about the error concerning the definition of S11 - does?
your copy have that error (which edition is it) ?
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting "Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd"?
<drkirkby@...>:
> On Sat, 3 Sept 2022 at 04:27, Bruce <bruce@...> wrote:
>
>> I intend to purchase either of both of the following books.? I do have an
>> extensive collection of notes and articles but figure I need some good
>> bedtime reading.? The candidate books are:
>> 1) Handbook of Microwave Component measurement with Advanced VNA
>> Techniques - (J.P. Dunsmore)
>> 2) Fundamentals of Vector Network Analysis - (M.Heibel)
>>
>
> I *had *both, but sold Heibel. I rarely sell textbooks (only one of two I
> can think of in 2 decades).? Heibel seems to sell from virtually nothing
> (what I paid for mine), to over $1000. (I made 10 dB or so proffit on the
> book??).
>
> Dunsmore is quite advanced, and discusses a lot of things you can't do with
> affordable VNAs. I did notice a few typos. You might find an errata page.
> There's a lot of emphasis on the time domain, which Joel done his PhD on.
> You need pretty decent maths skills to follow it. I know the reviewer of
> the book, and he loves lots of detailed maths.
>
> Heibel is very superficial. It has colour photographs, but doesn't really
> have much content. I'm a bit surprised that reviewer was keen on Heibel, as
> my maths is pretty crap, but I found the book lacking in much substance.
>
> Dave
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