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I wonder if they were trying to protect the point-contact diode, and maybe wanted to deal with any possible VSWR it might be working with.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Ford
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 10:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP detector

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Yes, I agree that power would make more sense, as it doesn't vary along a mismatched line like voltage does.

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From: Lothar baier <Lothar@...>

Date: 3/12/22 7:42 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP detector

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I find it a bit odd for them to specify a voltage rather than power , the only time I have seen this was for detectors that were used with slotted lines because slotted lines used a probe which is not 50 ohm

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP detector

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Thank you, Lothar, thank you, n8zmTWH. Particularly the excerpt from the cut sheet;?what I was able to find out before was always catalog data (not a specific?datasheet), and the Vp-p was not mentioned there. I've never seen both in relation to this unit.?

I may play it very safe - risk averse?here - and insert a 10dB or so attenuator before the detector.?

Thanks again!

Radu.?

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On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:05 PM <n8zmTWH@...> wrote:

This is cut from an HP doc I found online, maybe the same one you have. Note that it says 3 V RMS, and (4.2 V pk). Other items in that line were rated in mW, so ignore that here.

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From: HP-Agilent-Keysiht-equipment@group <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Radu Bogdan Dicher
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP detector

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Back to this topic, as I've finally acquired an HP 8471A and want to make sure I'm not frying it during my first use.

The maximum levels allowed are specified at "3Vrms" "peak or average" - particularly the latter confuses me. How can this number, while being presented as "RMS," be both average and peak? Leaving aside for a moment different waveforms than sine. To me, those numbers are never the "same." For instance, I am outputting signal from this Wavetek 1002 at +13dBm which, for better or worse, shows at the high impedance input of my HP54522A (@ 250MHz) as about 1.65Vrms/4.70Vp-p. Is this too much for the HP8471A?

I am intentionally not loading the signal with 50 ohm to artificially keep it as high as possible for a worst case scenario calculation. I assume the detector would "see" less volts as it's a 50ohm input device.?

I guess how this number would make sense to me would be something like - Vp-p should never exceed this many volts, regardless of the waveform input. But I am also not sure what is the exact burnout mechanism of failure for these.?

Thank you,
Radu.?

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