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Re: HP-8753E S11 Intermittent Results - Switch or Bridge?


Lothar baier
 

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The reversing switches are notorious for failures especially if a unit is used in a environment that is not ESD protected .? what you can also do and you have to be cautious if you do this is to remove the switch , remove the hardline from the switch to coupler port 1 and connect the coupler directly to the source , if your trace is consistent then you definatly have a bad switch !

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From: Rich Miller via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:47 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP-8753E S11 Intermittent Results - Switch or Bridge?

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Hi Lothar:

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It just started failing Port 1 Test. I was doing this just as this email came in. It is failing it consistently. I do not have a power meter, but I can take a look with my Spectrum Analyzer to see if there are power fluctuations at 3GHz. This problem seems to focus at frequencies higher than 3GHz.?

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Once I have a look at the output power, I will open and have a look. This is a new problem, as I never saw this before.

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Rich

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 06:38:56 PM EST, Lothar baier <lothar@...> wrote:

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If the S11response changes when you switch back and forth than this would point towards a repeatability issue with the solid state switch the fact that this changes with temperature would also point towards this direction , so here are a few things to try :

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  1. Connect a short to port 1 ,? go to the service menu there is a op check for port 1 and 2 , run the op check several time first for port 1 then port 2 then go back to port 1 and so on , see if it passes consistently or if there is a failure
  2. If you have a power meter connect it to port 1 , change the analyzer to CW and a frequency close to the upper end (3 or 6GHz), set power to 0dBm and then switch back and forth between S11 and S22 measurement and see if the power changes
  3. Open the unit and check the hardline connetions , make sure the nuts are tight

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From: Rich Miller via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:24 PM
To: HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] HP-8753E S11 Intermittent Results - Switch or Bridge?

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All:

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I have an issue with S11 (Port 1). It showed it's head now that I am running two port calibrations, thus I have not detected it just yet. My hunch is I have a problem with the switch, but not the Bridge. Here is what I am observing:

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1. Upon boot up I get a good/normal S11 RL Response into a good 50 Ohm Load. This Condition will persist until I do one of the steps below.

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2. If I switch to Port 2 (i.e. S22 Measurement), and then back to Port 1 the S11 Response has gone nutty (See Attached Picture).?

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3. I have noticed, that if I depress the S11 MEAS multiple times, the S11 RL Response returns to normal.?

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4. If you look at the enclosed picture, I have captured what I refer to as a normal S11 response, which I saved to memory (Smooth), and what it looks like after pressing S11 again (Wild variations in response).

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I have noticed there is a stark difference between instrument, cold and warm on S11. I do not however see this behavior our of any of the Port 2 Measurements regardless of temperature. Is there anywhere else this could be coming from other than the Solid State Switch, or am I way off base in my thinking here??

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Rich?

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