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Re: Sample preparation for Impedance Analyzer


 

Those donuts have two O/D sizes but a selection of I/D for the holes Are these actually sample holders for the two sizes:
7mm diam x 20mm length
10mm diam x 20mm length
(Outer Diameter and Inner Diameter. There are too many acronyms. I found CRT in a C++ Tutorial but it does not mean Cathode Ray Tube)

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 5:35 PM peter bunge via <bunge.pjp=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Dave;
I found an Operation Note for the HP 16091A Cavity test fixture. It does not explain how to use it.
There are a couple of vague paragraphs in the HP 4191A manual (page 3-50 in mine) but nothing on how to use this test fixture.
These appear on Ebay for $1500 or more. Who buys or? uses them?
There is more information in the 1980 Jan HP Journal than the 4191A manual, and some pictures of them in use.?
I assume these are the pins to solder/connect to the sample but no explanation on preparing a sample.
Kit 1i.jpg

This is the cavity. What are the donuts in the round container? Are these dielectric samples?
Why do they have a hole in them? Has anyone seen/have a manual for this HP 16091A Coaxial Test Fixture?
Is it coaxial as in an RF cavity? I don't think so because it is too small for 1 GHz.?
I think it is a coaxial shield for minimum stray capacitance/inductance.
16091A_3.jpg

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 9:33 PM Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
On 11/14/21 8:57 PM, peter bunge wrote:
> How are connections made to samples with granular surfaces? Any
> suggestions apart from sputtering?
> How about conductive paint (rear defroster repair, Permatex has two
> products)?
> How are samples prepared for an instrument like the HP4191A? Is there a
> document that covers the subject?
> What do the samples look like and what dimensinos? It does not appear to
> be in the 4191A manual.
> Is there anyone? with actual experience making up samples and measuring
> them?
> My interest is in measuring the properties of highly conductive samples
> at different frequencies.

? ?How about colloidal silver?? The kind that's used in electron
microscopy, not the kind that's used by "healing crystals" etc nutjobs.

? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA





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