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Re: HP435 measuring head?


 

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This is a real interesting thread. So I thought I¡¯d throw in my two cents

A SA is not a power meter..... ?actually it is and in some respects a better one. ?True you do have the issues of calibration but assuming you are calibrated you should be able to get within a couple of tenths of a dB. Where the SA shines over a power Peter is that you are measuring the power at your frequency of interest not the fundamental and all of its harmonics like a PM or a bird does.

Calibration, ?well I have had to do inspections (why they let me do QA inspections is beyond me) and I have found exactly two labs that could actually put stickers on power heads with a straight face one was HP Roseville (a while back) where they had the 4 or 5 racks of stuff for PMs and Heads. The other was of all places the Pakistani Navy lab in Karachi. They had HPs desktop sets for both PMs and heads. ?Everyone else used a sig gen to verify the heads and none of them did the entire frequency range nor the math to generate the Cf. ? I¡¯m lucky I have the 11683 range calibrator and a Keysight lab stds calibrated 3458A so I can be fairly certain that my power meters are correct, operative word ¡°fairly¡±.?

Over the last year or so I have had over a dozen 436As up from one of my customers because they ¡°wouldn¡¯t cal¡± or were BER, they all got sent back working because I actually read the manual and performed the alignment (with the 11683). ?

The bottom line unless you really know your lab and even then that they actually do alignments everything we have is a guess, maybe a good guess, but still just a guess.?

Remember in radio it takes 6dB ?for you or me to detect a change in the signal. ?Of course if you¡¯re doing it as a challenge that¡¯s another thing.

Regards,

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Stephen Hanselman

Datagate Systems, LLC




On Oct 7, 2020, at 10:59, Robin Szemeti <robin@...> wrote:

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Lockdown has been brilliant for hobbies!? I hadn't fired up a transmitter in decades having been out of the hobby for a long time ... now I find myself knee deep in gear again, with a shed full of heliax, aerials and part finished projects.

Good test gear is however a joy in itself.? I have a good stock of mechanical tooling and a small workshop, a good vernier or micrometer is a joy to use whereas a poor instrument is a frustration.?? I enjoy acquiring good test equipment, even if sometimes I have no real use for it.? One of my most treasured items is a "Sanders" slotted waveguide measuring line. The quality of construction and sheer mechanical precision makes it a wonderful thing in its own right.


On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 18:39, Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
On 10/7/20 1:33 PM, Jim Ford wrote:
> I have the same problem, Tam.? Too much work and not enough time for
> hobbies like ham radio.

? ?I've not keyed up a transmitter in years.? I'm pretty sad about that.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA





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