The EAGLE version only does 3 by 4 inch boards, single sheet, double sided at most.
For my own purposes, too limited.
EAGLE used to be a separate product, but IIRC, is *only* available as an addon to Fusion 360.? More robust versions of Fusion 360/EAGLE are available by subscription only.
Harvey
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On 9/8/2020 10:01 AM, Sandra Carroll wrote:
I¡¯m surprised no one has mention fusion360. Full CAD/CAM with Eagle now as well.
3D parametric, direct manufacture to 3D printers. I send to both simplify3D and chitubox all the time.
Easy to use. Still no cost to makers.
On open source
Some comments. I¡¯ve run into countless projects that die or are abandoned in the opensource community. Yeh some of the big stay around but far greater go nowhere.
Opensource is not this great pancea of perfection. If your not a developer yourself you can only hope they¡¯ll accept your proposal for a change. Personal experience is they don¡¯t always do this. In fact in my experience they rarely do. It does not fit the authors vision of how it should work.
I love Perl. But the community refused for the longest time to accept ebcdic(mainframe) into the their world. And only did by making it ascii internally which has its own problems for those of us in the mainframe.
I¡¯m not against opensource, I use it all the time. Like anything it has it¡¯s upside and downside.
Sandra
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On Sep 8, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote:
?Bear in mind that one of the features of open source projects
is they really never go away. Commercial projects come and vanish,
and change their licensing terms with great regularity.
OpenSCAD is used by dozens of other projects, and is a very solid
package. The source is available on github, and if you don't like
the direction the authors are going, you can take it and make it
your way. Sure, if you aren't talented that way, you will have to
hire it done, but that is what you are already doing with the outright
commercial packages... without any hope of customization.
If OpenSCAD is too hard to learn (it isn't), you can use one of the
many packages, like FreeCAD, that have incorporated it into their
graphic interfaces.
We greybeards remember the PC so well, that we wrote GNU and linux
for it, and emancipated ourselves from Microsoft.
Educator licenses are available to universities to allow them to
train their kiddies on the package at no cost to the university.
The university professor gives a 1 year copy to each student, and
they use it for their course work. At the end of the year, it is
inactivated.
The companies do that because it is free advertising, and a free
beta testing of their product. They also know that once trained on
a product, students will ask for it where they work.
That is the sole and only reason Apple and Microsoft have such nice
licensing terms for K-12 schools.
Also, to use a student license, usually you are required to show
registration at a university. The rules on student licenses are
highly restrictive relative to commercial intention. A product
designed on a student license cannot ever be commercialized without
transferring it to a full on commercial seat... at typically $50K a
seat... and once there, it can never be brought back to a student
seat.
-Chuck Harris
Tom Gardner wrote:
Overall I doubt that members of this group will want to make anything really complex,
but they might like it to be available to other members in a decade or so. So have a
quick look and choose any tool that feels comfortable without a large learning curve.
After a///very//quick look/, it appears that OnShape is....
Free for "educators", with a 1 year time limit on the licence - whatever that means.
Online only, running in a browser like OpenJSCAD. The standard questions with any
"cloud service" are whether:
* it will be there in 5 years time; see Microsoft PlaysForSure(TM), and giggle
* the licence conditions can be changed, e.g. is the company/product changes ownership
Greybeards will remember the sighs of relief when PCs became available, because it
meant that users' data was not "held hostage" inside silos owned by other companies.
On 08/09/20 02:54, Kuba Ober wrote:
OnShape - as long as it¡¯s not for commercial purposes - all your projects are
publicly viewable then. A joy to use. All it needs is an OK internet connection and
a supported web browser.
FreeCAD is another option.
7 sep. 2020 kl. 10:17 fm skrev victor.silva via groups.io
<daejon1@...>:
?This is off topic but the end result will be for HP products so please bear with me.
I am looking for recommendation on 3D modeling software (preferably freeware) and
a company that I can then send the 3D model to
make a battery holder clamshells. I propose to make half clamshell pieces that
would then make a complete
battery holder by using 2 pieces that would fit together.
Thank you,
Victor
