Q-metering
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I would like some way of measuring the Q of inductors up to at least 30 MHz - 150 MHz would be nice. I have an HP 4284A Pr¨¦cision LCR meter (20 Hz to 1 MHz 0.05% basic accuracy) and a 4285A (75 kHz to 30 MHz, 0.1% basic accuracy). However, although these figures of 0.05% m n My mmand 0.1% might sound impressive, these are only achieved at a very limited set of circumstances. There¡¯s an example in the 4285A manual of a measurement the Q on an inductor. I forgot the exact numbers, but they are similar to these * 220 nH * 25 MHz * indicated Q = 30 Measurement uncertainty +107/-13. So all it really says is that the Q id somewhere between 17! and 137. So I was looking for ideas on building a Q meter.. Dave, G8WRB -- Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd, drkirkby@... https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/ Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100 Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892. Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom
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Tek 284
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I've recently acquired a Tek 284 that seems to need some TLC. Before I start snooping around in it, I'm wondering if there are any "usual suspects" that I should consider. Besides all the electrolytic capacitors. They're already on my hit list. Thanks - Dave
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SX1261 as platform
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This is a double post I also made on the tinySA group. It was intended to be posted here but groups.io switched to the wrong group for some reason. Anyway Has anyone of you had a look at this chip from semtech? Since Si4432 has become obsolete I browsed for a chip that can take its place as a platform for RF tools. It has continous frequency span from 150MHz to 960MHz and comparable phase noise as Si4432 with the disclaimer that it is frequency dependant. For me, fast sweep time is beneficial as I often scan wide chunks of spectrum and this chip have a pll settling time of 30us. It¡¯s quite good , is it? Have I missed something that makes this chip a dead end to persue further? Link SX1261
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New user intro
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Hi group members I have about 15 years as an EE developer, mostly conumer stuff. My main interest for test equipment is for debugging rf-emissions and pre-compliance testing and not amateur radio. If it is OK to discuss equipment from that perspective I am happy to join and if not I am perfectly fine with that and just keep lurking. :) /edit I want to add that ideas I have does not necessarily have to do with emission probing. I just like to build testgear as a hobby and learning exercise.
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Specan log detector and power regulators
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Hi, I am starting to build a 'specan' (https://hfsignals.blogspot.com/p/specan-reboot-of-w7zoi.html ) Mainly because I have a prototyping shield spare I will be using one. It also has an SOIC 14 footprint. I was wondering whether I could put the AD8307 on the shield. Would that introduce too much noise from the MCU? What about if I were to shield the area of the board that contains the log detector? Second Question: Ashhar Farhan used an external 5v regulator for the arduino (separate from the regulator for the AD8307) but the arduino has a regulator on board. Is there a good reason for by-passing the arduino's regulator? thanks & 73 Ellis G7SAI
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Crystal source
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Does anyone have a recommended source for 9MHz crystals for a crystal ladder filter? Plenty offered on E-bay but no way of telling how good they are. Thanks, Mike K5ESS
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Quick and dirty GPSDO
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I'm trying to run Erik Kaashoeks code for the 10 MHz reference. The problem seems to be that the LCD is stuck while the code seems to achieve lock. The code is from 3 Dec 2021: https://github.com/erikkaashoek/Arduino_SI5351_GPSDO My hardware is a SI5351 with a TCXO at 25 MHz and a 16x2 LCD, and no phase detector. Judging from the serial output on the Arduino monitor, it seems to be running OK. But hardly anything shows on the LCD, only the second line which says " F2DC V.5.2"., no lock information and no clock. Here is the output on the serial monitor for the first 5 minutes: 0:00:05 dur=4 acount=25263408 dcount=-6480 calfact=0 acount=25263408 mincorr=10.0e-8 corr=1.5e0 xtal=26000000000 0:00:11 dur=5 acount=32043408 dcount=13680 calfact=0 acount=32043408 mincorr=8.0e-8 corr=1.6e0 xtal=26000000000 0:00:17 dur=5 acount=32043394 dcount=13666 calfact=0 acount=32043394 mincorr=8.0e-8 corr=1.6e0 xtal=26000000000 0:00:23 dur=5 acount=32043405 dcount=13677 calfact=0 acount=32043405 mincorr=8.0e-8 corr=1.6e0 xtal=66650276864 0:00:29 dur=5 acount=18754610 dcount=28690 calfact=0 acount=18754610 mincorr=8.0e-8 corr=5.0e-1 xtal=99999992832 0:00:35 dur=5 acount=12500001 dcount=1 calfact=0 acount=12500001 mincorr=8.0e-8 corr=8.0e-8 xtal=100000000831 Lock 0:00:46 dur=10 acount=24999998 dcount=-2 calfact=0 acount=24999998 mincorr=4.0e-8 corr=-4.0e-8 xtal=99999996831 Lock 0:01:07 dur=20 acount=49999998 dcount=-2 calfact=0 acount=49999998 mincorr=2.0e-8 corr=-2.0e-8 xtal=99999994831 Lock 0:01:48 dur=40 acount=100000000 dcount=0 calfact=0 acount=100000000 mincorr=10.0e-9 corr=0.0e0 xtal=99999994831 Lock 0:03:09 dur=80 acount=200000000 dcount=0 calfact=0 acount=200000000 mincorr=5.0e-9 corr=0.0e0 xtal=99999994831 Lock 0:05:50 dur=160 acount=400000001 dcount=1 calfact=0 acount=400000001 mincorr=2.5e-9 corr=2.5e-9 xtal=99999995081 Lock I would appreciate it if I could compare outputs with someone else -- Sverre LA3ZA http://la3za.blogspot.com
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File /Q&D GPSDO/GPS_Si_52.ino updated
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The following files and folders have been updated in the Files area of the [email protected] group. /Q&D GPSDO/GPS_Si_52.ino By: Bill Buoy <bill@...> Description: updated sketch for the GPSDO
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si4432 fails to initilialize lo
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#spectrum_analyzer
I finally got the proper pinout completed and simpleSA boots up on screen, but errors out with "TX Si4432 Reset failed - _cs = 5", I had run across a post about this before but can not find it with any type of search now. I switched the connections between si4432's and get the same error. It seems to read the first si4432,giving "type ff, version ff, status ff, and always fails on resetting for the second. The post I read had a fix for this, does anyone have know where I can find such a post or fix?
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Added Folder /Q&D GPSDO
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Bill Buoy <bill@...> added folder /Q&D GPSDO
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error for tinysa version 1.4 for esp32 mrover t8 1.7
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#spectrum_analyzer
I have built the analyzer per dave M0WID design, tried to compile the arduino sketch for it version 1.4 , have corrected all errors so far (esp32 libraries were not loaded correctly by boards manager), but am stopped by one error. "'class TFT_eSPI' has no member named 'getTouchRawZ', How do I create a member name for this, not a programmer myself? Am trying to learn about programming, especially arduino, understand a little but don't understand how to fix this error. Using arduino 1.8.13 ide, Any help would be appreciated a lot. John
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PC Boards for QEX Step Attenuator Available
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I have ordered a limited batch of boards from JLCPCB for the QEX September/October 2021 ¡°Miniature SMA Step Attenuator¡± pp 9-21 by Tom Alldred VA7TA. If you are interested in a board, at $3.00 ppd CONUS, please reply off line [click the ¡°Private¡± button]. I expect to receive the boards in the first week of October and will have 8 spare boards available. If there is sufficient additional interest, I would be willing to make a second order. See attached for some additional info. Dick K9IVB
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GPS Clock
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My Arduino GPS Clock is now published. It shows GPS info such as UTC time and locator, also local time with daylight saving for a user-configurable timezone, solar and lunar position and rise/set times, NCDXF beacons in real time and much more. Date and time formats adaptable to most formats in use. On my blog and on GitHub. See https://la3za.blogspot.com/2021/09/gps-clock.html -- Sverre LA3ZA http://la3za.blogspot.com
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10 MHz Rubidium OCXO frequency standard information
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Hello to all, I bought used an AR-60A (AccuBeat) and a Datum LPRO (I think it's from Efratom) and they both work. I have no experience with these Rubidium frequency standards and would like clarification regarding the optimal operating temperature, i.e. if they need a heatsink and how large it should be (or how many ¡ã C / W). Currently without the heat sink the temperature rises to about 50 ¡ã C then stabilizes. Thanks for the attention. -- Cheers Attilio
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Honey, I Shrunk The Tester
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SPARKFUN? ARDUINO COMPONENT TESTER RE-PACKAGED I recently came across an Arduino based, Component Tester project by SPARKFUN?. Arduino Component Tester ( https://www.sparkfun.com/news/3909 ) Following the directions in the article, I bread-boarded the circuit, using an Arduino UNO, and found it to be a potential, useful addition to my test bench. However, the form factor left something to be desired. So, I flashed the firmware into an Arduino Nano and found no difference in the operation. Now I had a way to make a smaller, permanent tester. I found some small, project boxes in my stock that fit the bill perfectly - 58MM wide x 35MM high x 15MM thick. I entered the schematic into the FRITZING program and created a PCB to fit into the box. UNFORTUNATELY I forgot to rotate the NANO on the layout and the boards are useless. I have reverted to point-to-point wiring. I am posting a short PDF describing the build in the files section. Dennis KG4RUL
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Quick and dirty GPSDO build by F2DC and me.
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Anyone looking for a GPSDO with a frequency accuracy in the order of 1e-8 should have a look at this: http://roland.cordesses.free.fr/GPS_Si2cor.html I made a quick and very dirty build of his design using only 4 modules found on eBay - Arduino nano - GPS module with 1PPS output (neo-6M or better, I used neo-7M) - SI5351 module with 3 outputs - 16x2 LCD display and some wires etc, running from a bench 5V supply. The Arduino SW was modified ( https://github.com/erikkaashoek/Arduino_SI5351_GPSDO ) to have a adaptive measurement time depending on the frequency error observed. With a stable temperature of the SI5351 crystal and the largest measurement/correction cycle time of 400 seconds the stability was better than 0.01 Hz, or 0.003 PPM The schematic as published by F2DC My current SW on github does not need the serial data from the GPS, only the pulse per second. The CLK1 output of the SI5351 is freely configurable to any valid SI5351 output frequency such as 10MHz or 100MHz. Have fun -- HBTE Files section: /g/HBTE/files Erik, PD0EK
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File Notifications
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Dennis Zabawa <kg4rul@...> added folder /Honey I Shrunk The Component Tester - Build Description The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /Honey I Shrunk The Component Tester - Build Description/ComponentTesterRepackaged.pdf By: Dennis Zabawa <kg4rul@...> Description: A description of the Sparkfun Arduino Component Tester down-sized to fit in a small package using a Nano is place of a UNO.
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Tuning a 2.5GHz cavity filter with home build VNA
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While improving the SA I'm building I learned something about tuning a cavity filter. The VNA I'm using is home build and consists of only - 2 x ADF4351 - a resistive bridge - 2 x IAM-81008 mixers with some passive components (10 dB attenuator at the RF input and some capacitors) - Arduino - PC with some software The black brick is the 10 pole cavity filter supposed to be very good, but when I measured the input impedance I got this. Then I learned that for good input impedance measurement you have to terminate the output of a cavity filter with 50 ohm. This improved the measurement. When tuning the cavities the first cavity determined the reactance of the input impedance so I was able to center the circles better around Z0. The other cavities could be tuned to decrease the size of the loops around Z0 and finally resulted in The first cavity still needs a bit of tuning but the S21 of the filter is now nice and flat Passband ripple is less then 2dB and loss is also very good. This was the result of only one round of tuning so with some iterations it probably can be further improved. Due to complete absence of any shielding the dynamic range of S21 measurement is limited to about 40dB-50dB. The IAM-81008 turns out to be the perfect component for building a quick and dirty GHz VNA
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A PCB for the W0SJ TDR
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In the May 2021 edition of QST Magazine, Stan Johnson (W0SJ) published an article describing a device one can hook to an oscilloscope to turn it into a time domain reflectometer (TDR). Stan built his basically out of parts from the junque box for which he deserves kudos! I hate hand wiring stuff so I decided to design a printed circuit board for it. My board makes a few changes in Stan¡¯s design which made the PCB layout a bit neater and added a couple of features, but otherwise it is basically the same as his design. With a lot of help from Glenn (VK3PE), the PCB can be built using either through-hole components or SMD components or a combination of both. The Gerber files for the PCB along with a document describing the PCB and some more information on it's use can be found on GitHub ( https://github.com/WA2FZW/A-PCB-for-the-W0SJ-TDR-by-WA2FZW ). Also available there are two Android apps developed by Roderick Wall (VK3YC). One allows you to calculate the length of a piece of coax and the other allows you to compute the velocity factor of a known length of coax. I have a few extra circuit boards available should anyone want one. You can have them for $5 each (free shipping to the USA). If you'd like one, please email me (good on QRZ.com). -- John P. WA2FZW
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File /iw5bsf adf4351 pll spurios/adf4351 spuriosa.jpg uploaded
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The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /iw5bsf adf4351 pll spurios/adf4351 spuriosa.jpg By: Roberto <iw5bsf@...> Description: original out adf4351 pll spurios
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