Re: TinySA and phase noise. Understanding the limitations of the SI4432
#spectrum_analyzer
Here a direct comparison of the SI4432 as signal generator with the SI5351 First SI4432 at 300MHz The phase noise is obscured by strong spurs. The SI4432 uses a fractional PLL and I did not yet spend
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Erik Kaashoek
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Re: TinySA and phase noise. Understanding the limitations of the SI4432
#spectrum_analyzer
I never did test a SI5351 as oscillator for the SI4432. Phase noise and noise floor are good enough for my applications (testing harmonics and other spectral content in home build transceiver) The
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Erik Kaashoek
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Re: TinySA and phase noise. Understanding the limitations of the SI4432
#spectrum_analyzer
The snow has fallen and is sticking around... so I'm playing catch up on the electronics and RF engineering projects from last winter post the outdoor projects last year that scope creeped into this
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Re: TinySA Arduino
I know that the number of bits depend on the settings and that the 12b is a "optimistic" value but had no idea about this. Will have to keep that in mind. Thanks.
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Dragan Milivojevic
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Re: TinySA Arduino
After 20 years in the IT industry I was starting to feel a bit like a greybeard but compared to you guys I kind of feel like a youngster again :) "all thumbs" is the perfect way to describe it.
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Dragan Milivojevic
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Re: TinySA Arduino
Dave, Good point, hadn't known. Thanks for describing the poor A/D performance of the typical Blue Pill board. I like the thought of a tinySA board with just an SPI port, make it processor agnostic.
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Jerry Gaffke
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Re: TinySA Arduino
I wasn't directly involved in either processor design, but in the late 70's I worked at a company called Ramtek (long since failed) where they had a PAL to flip the memory map (all 64kbytes of it)
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Jerry Gaffke
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Re: TinySA Arduino
Unfortunately, the raw specs can be misleading. The issue, typically, is noise which causes the lower bits of the ADC result to be garbage. There is a figure of merit for ADCs called Effective Number
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Dave VE3LHO
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Re: TinySA Arduino
Just checked with one of my STLink clones that I did not convert to BMP wondering how did I miss the serial port. Anyway it seems that virtual serial is not available with STLink 2 only with 2.1.
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Dragan Milivojevic
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Re: TinySA Arduino
NXP app note with diagram and explanation is here: https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/application-note/AN10441.pdf
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Dave VE3LHO
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Re: TinySA Arduino
May have made a wrong comment, no need to do something in the ini file, should work out of the box. The ini file change is needed when you want to use SerialUSB with Blue Pill. -- HBTE Files section:
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Erik Kaashoek
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Re: TinySA Arduino
I had no idea that you could do that, will have to look it up. Thanks Dragan,
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Dragan Milivojevic
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Re: TinySA Arduino
You win the internet for today ;) Totally unrelated to the topic but: with that kind of background how do you bare using Windows? Evrytime that I'm forced to use it (which is not often thankfully) I
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Dragan Milivojevic
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Re: Tuning the frequency of the tinySA calibration output
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That is what I did as first step. /g/HBTE/message/691 Although the NEO-7M may have some jitter when doing 10MHz the frequency counter does not mind and with its TXCO it is VERY stable
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Erik Kaashoek
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Re: TinySA Arduino
Dragan, In platformIO you can set your ini file to include a serial console over the STLink -- HBTE Files section: /g/HBTE/files Erik, PD0EK
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Erik Kaashoek
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Re: TinySA Arduino
I was talking about a 128kByte program for a 68000 compiled on VAX/VMS downloaded through a 9600 B/s connection. The downloading took most of the time Maybe this shows my age? And yes, I did build all
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Erik Kaashoek
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Re: TinySA Arduino
Wow, 3 hours to compile a C application? C should be as fast as anything else to compile. An interpreter like python skips the compile, but then run times are much slower. You either had a terribly
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Jerry Gaffke
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Re: TinySA Arduino
The RPi-Zero is nearly the size of a Nano, and with the monitor powered down that might well create about as much noise.? Actually I'm rather surprised Eric is getting such good results with his
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Jerry Gaffke
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Re: Tuning the frequency of the tinySA calibration output
#tinysa
It's a hobby, so if it's fun I suppose that's fine. But I'd rather just drive the 30mhz reference from an accurate RF source when needed. Could leave the crystal in place, just have an SMA in parallel
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Jerry Gaffke
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Re: TinySA Arduino
Only thing that is left now is to invent a cheap teleport machine and send it to Serbia ;)
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Dragan Milivojevic
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