Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Very frustrating. The V2 boards have arrived in Melbourne but are "on hold" presumably for Covid19 reasons.
Glenn <vk3pe>
Regarding V2 PCB's and the TG, awesome!
73,
Robert, WA2T
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 07:22 AM, Robert Entwistle wrote:
Regarding V2 PCB's and the TG, awesome!
73,
Robert, WA2T
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Hi Gyula,
The item number does not come up for me.
Regarding V2 PCB's and the TG, awesome!
73,
Robert, WA2T
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
It wouldn't be too hard to have another version of my PCB Gerbers to cater for that pinout if required. Glenn vk3pe
In hindsight, I also realized that the foot layout is different from the B3555.
The Polish seller put it up again as a 50pcs item, so far it has had 2 buyers and more than 10 leftovers. So you can try whoever still needs it.
eBay item number: 264817981759 - enter these 12 numbers into the eBay search engine and provide the link.
73 -- Gyula HA3HZ
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 05:51 PM, Gyula Molnar wrote:
In hindsight, I also realized that the foot layout is different from the B3555.
The Polish seller put it up again as a 50pcs item, so far it has had 2 buyers and more than 10 leftovers. So you can try whoever still needs it.
eBay item number: 264817981759 - enter these 12 numbers into the eBay search engine and provide the link.
73
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Gyula HA3HZ
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Mouser also stock B3760, which has the same pin outs as the B3555, slightly wider passband and different matching parts.
I was wondering about using those for the analyser, and the B3767 with centre frequency 447MHz, also stocked by Mouser and also with the same pin out, for the tracking gen, though thinking about it as the B3767 response is narrower it may be better to use the B3767 for the SA and the B3760 for the tracking gen.
Then we could have a two channel analyser if that is of any use.
The problem with Mouser, in the UK at least, is the minimum order for free postage, which is otherwise prohibitive.??
73
Dave
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
In hindsight, I also realized that the foot layout is different from the B3555.
The Polish seller put it up again as a 50pcs item, so far it has had 2 buyers and more than 10 leftovers. So you can try whoever still needs it.
eBay item number: 264817981759 - enter these 12 numbers into the eBay search engine and provide the link.
73 -- Gyula HA3HZ
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Hi Gyula.
Many thanks for that pointer. I don't know why I didn't see that
offering earlier, especially since it is relatively local to me.
73
Bill, VK7MX and VK1MX
On 15/8/20 8:22 pm, Gyula Molnar wrote:
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Hi Bill,
you do not have to stick to the Polish supplier
when you have a similar one.
link here:
I looked at the technical features as the B3555.
Compare.
NDF550 link:
73
ps.: eBay item number:? 273962954133
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Gyula HA3HZ
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Speaking of SAW filters, Dave has cleverly put a mode in the ESP32 controller version to plot the response of the SAW filters.
It's pretty amazing how it corresponds nicely with the Data Sheet. (Data sheet is for one filter only of course)
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Its a pity the NDF550 has a different pin out. Fine if a new pcb was being developed but right now, doesn't suit the pcb with the original part. Seems like the Polish guy is the only one with readily available parts right now. And with Covid19, not easy to get. I also wonder how many more he may have available. Probably started with a reel of them.
I took a close look at my V2 pcb. It would be very difficult to fit these even with track cuts etc.
vk3pe
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Hi Bill,
you do not have to stick to the Polish supplier when you have a similar one.
link here: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/5PCS-433-92-MHz-SMD-433MHZ-433-433-92-RF-SAW-Filter-Surface-Mount-QCC8C-SM3838-8/273962954133?hash=item3fc976ed95:g:DUkAAOSwudBdT4~K
I looked at the technical features as the B3555. Compare.
NDF550 link: http://13.124.15.139/pdf/download.php?id=3a61bc5ecdd2a26caa4d25a4aeb11c8e88e357&type=P&term=ndf55073 ps.: eBay item number:? 273962954133
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Hi Glenn
Yes, I was aware of the small mods to V1 but tidier is something
to aim for, mostly. Not sure what your plans for Gerber release
are but if available later I'll get an order off to China and
distribute the pcbs among the NTARC members back home.
For the moment though, we share some of your lockdown pain, as we
are actually in East Gippsland , on the Lakes and in Level 3.
Can't readily go home for the moment, as we would have to go into
self-funded hotel accommodation, and also put the dogs in kennels,
for two weeks. Would get fairly expensive so we are sitting it out
here on the boat. At least this time around, boating is permitted,
subject to social-distancing etc.
Spent some of the time ordering the modules etc for the spec
analyser. Surprisingly, some orders from China are arriving within
pre-COVID times but others definitely aren't. Ran into trouble
with the? SAW filters though. The Polish seller cancelled the
order on the basis that he couldn't ship to Australia because of
COVID? postage restrictions. Still have to solve that one.
Bill
deOn 15/8/20 6:17 pm, Glenn wrote:
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Hi Bill.
V1 could still be used with a couple of small
mods. V2 is "tidier".
Hope you doing ok down in vk7. We are in lockdown
as no doubt u know.?
Glenn?
Sent from my Samsung
Galaxy S7 smartphone.
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Date: 15/8/20 5:46 pm (GMT+10:00)
Subject: Re: [HBTE] Tracking Generator for tinySA
Great news Glenn. I knew holding off on V1 was a good decision
:)
Bill VK7MX
On 15/8/20 11:45 am, Glenn wrote:
I'm onto V2 of my version of the tinySA
board.?? The group of us (M0WID, WA2FZW, G3ZQC & VK3PE)
working on this, are using the name "simpleSA" to differentiate
from Eriks.
The V2 board has provision for the tracking generator using
Daves (M0WID) code.? I have ordered some PCB's but
even with DHL shipping, its taking a long time for them to
arrive. For tracking gen, a 2nd RF board is stacked with the SA
RF board and ESP32 controller, forming a sandwich of 3 boards.
Plus TFT display.
glenn ,vk3pe>
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Hi Bill. V1 could still be used with a couple of small mods. V2 is "tidier".
Hope you doing ok down in vk7. We are in lockdown as no doubt u know.?
Glenn?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 smartphone.
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-------- Original message -------- From: William R Maxwell <wrmaxwell@...> Date: 15/8/20 5:46 pm (GMT+10:00) Subject: Re: [HBTE] Tracking Generator for tinySA
Great news Glenn. I knew holding off on V1 was a good decision :)
Bill VK7MX
On 15/8/20 11:45 am, Glenn wrote:
I'm onto V2 of my version of the tinySA board.?? The group of us
(M0WID, WA2FZW, G3ZQC & VK3PE) working on this, are using the
name "simpleSA" to differentiate from Eriks.
The V2 board has provision for the tracking generator using
Daves (M0WID) code.? I have ordered some PCB's but even
with DHL shipping, its taking a long time for them to arrive. For
tracking gen, a 2nd RF board is stacked with the SA RF board and
ESP32 controller, forming a sandwich of 3 boards. Plus TFT
display.
glenn ,vk3pe>
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
Great news Glenn. I knew holding off on V1 was a good decision :)
Bill VK7MX
On 15/8/20 11:45 am, Glenn wrote:
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I'm onto V2 of my version of the tinySA board.?? The group of us
(M0WID, WA2FZW, G3ZQC & VK3PE) working on this, are using the
name "simpleSA" to differentiate from Eriks.
The V2 board has provision for the tracking generator using
Daves (M0WID) code.? I have ordered some PCB's but even
with DHL shipping, its taking a long time for them to arrive. For
tracking gen, a 2nd RF board is stacked with the SA RF board and
ESP32 controller, forming a sandwich of 3 boards. Plus TFT
display.
glenn ,vk3pe>
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
I'm onto V2 of my version of the tinySA board.?? The group of us (M0WID, WA2FZW, G3ZQC & VK3PE) working on this, are using the name "simpleSA" to differentiate from Eriks.
The V2 board has provision for the tracking generator using Daves (M0WID) code as in his post below.? I have ordered some PCB's but even with DHL shipping, its taking a long time for them to arrive. For tracking gen, a 2nd RF board is stacked with the SA RF board and ESP32 controller, forming a sandwich of 3 boards. Plus TFT display.
glenn ,vk3pe>
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Re: Tracking Generator for tinySA
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Subject: Re: [HBTE] Tracking Generator for tinySA ? Here is my lash up tracking generator using two SI4432 into a ADE-25 mixer, the test object is a qrp-labs 20m bandpass filter, the analyser is my homebrew ESP32 version.? Ugly!
Despite no filters on the tracking gen or shielding anywhere it seems to work quite well, almost identical trace to the nano-vna.? The tracking gen IF is offset 600kHz from the main SA IF.
The chart below is from the web client.
73
Dave M0WID
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Here is my lash up tracking generator using two SI4432 into a ADE-25 mixer, the test object is a qrp-labs 20m bandpass filter, the analyser is my homebrew ESP32 version.? Ugly!  Despite no filters on the tracking gen or shielding anywhere it seems to work quite well, almost identical trace to the nano-vna.? The tracking gen IF is offset 600kHz from the main SA IF. The chart below is from the web client.  73 Dave M0WID
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Re: tinySA nearing completion
Erik,
Purchased...Now the wait for the order to be processed - Stay tuned... :)
73 de Marty, KN0CK
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Re: Updated #tinySA tinuSA code
#tinysa
Compiling the tinySA.ino without ui_sa.* and sa_core.* delivers the error message "ui_sa.c: No such file or directory" - see att. "error message"
After removing the line #include "ui_sa.c" from tinySA.ino the compilation and upload to arudino zero worked. - log "successful upload"
But when starting the window app. "tinySA.exe" I got the error message "no sweeper found"
Starting the tinySA.exe a 2nd time the serial port selector offers only "Mockup" and no serial port.
Could it be that the tinySA.ino maybe belongs to a different project eg. the tinySA with touch display? I ask because to enable the compilation I had to add a Lib XPT2046_Touchscreen
Thanks for your help!
Peter
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Re: Updated #tinySA tinuSA code
#tinysa
leave the Arduino IDE, delete ui_sa.* and sa_core.* and try again to compile ui_sa.* and sa_core.* where intended for a backport that never happened -- HBTE Files section:? /g/HBTE/filesErik, PD0EK
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Re: Updated #tinySA tinuSA code
#tinysa
Hi Erik,
When using the files to program the Arduino I got a error message "'M_LOW' undeclared (first use in this function)" - see the attachment.
Please can you check if the files you uploaded in /Arduino? are the right one?
Thanks
Peter
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Re: Updated #tinySA tinuSA code
#tinysa
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Gyula Molnar
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