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SYSLOG piles up in JES2 - no output to release

 

Gentlemen,

I noticed that quite recently, these SYSLOG entries do not seem to get discarded like other output. Any idea how to get rid of them?



kind regards
Michael
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Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

I do as well, largely out of force of habit. Strictly speaking, the stopall isn't necessary, since QUIESCE loads a disabled wait state into all CPUs, but it's not a bad habit to get into. The main reason?to do the QUIESCE is to ensure that all I/O has been completed before stopping the system; merely stopping all processors does not guarantee that?(you may get unlucky and catch it with an I/O in flight).


On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 1:19?PM cjar1950 via <cjar1950=[email protected]> wrote:
Jay,

I always (well almost always)

z eod
quiesce
stopall
quit

(It is my understanding that quiesce ensures that MVS buffers are
written to the "hercules virtual buffers" and the stopall ensures that
hercules writes its buffers to the "Windows or Linux" emulated disk
files.).

Chris
--
?<cjar1950@...>



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On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:21:04 -0600
"Jay Maynard" <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
> If you've done $PJES2 and Z EOD, then you might as well reIPL anyway.
> QUIESCE and STOPALL are no different there.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 9:16?AM Andre via <procritic=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > I always used stopall instead of quiesce, because i heard that after
> > quiesce restart is not possible.
> > But if you enter quiesce, then of course stopall is meaningless after that.
> > Is there any real advantages though?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jay Maynard
>
>
>
>
>









--
Jay Maynard


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Jay,

I always (well almost always)

z eod
quiesce
stopall
quit

(It is my understanding that quiesce ensures that MVS buffers are
written to the "hercules virtual buffers" and the stopall ensures that
hercules writes its buffers to the "Windows or Linux" emulated disk
files.).

Chris
--
<cjar1950@...>



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On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:21:04 -0600
"Jay Maynard" <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
If you've done $PJES2 and Z EOD, then you might as well reIPL anyway.
QUIESCE and STOPALL are no different there.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 9:16?AM Andre via groups.io <procritic=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Robert,

I always used stopall instead of quiesce, because i heard that after
quiesce restart is not possible.
But if you enter quiesce, then of course stopall is meaningless after that.
Is there any real advantages though?

Best wishes,
Andre


--
Jay Maynard





Re: COBOL Sort - - +IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS

 

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Joe,

Has Sort been corrected to work in TK5 ¨C we do NOT have 2311 or 2314 disks in the TK5 distribution

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-J-

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(301) 424-3362 (office)

(240) 388-7148 Cell

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Monk via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 1:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] COBOL Sort - - +IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS

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?

Joe

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:40?PM Joe Monk via <joemonk64=[email protected]> wrote:

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Joe

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:30?AM Dagfinn Hammar <dagfinndh33@...> wrote:

Hi
Is there a solution for this error. Is there a jcl setup for cobol sort compile jobs?
HERC0101? ?STEP04? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEFBR14? ?RC= 0000? ? ?

HERC0101? ?STEP05? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEBGENER? RC= 0000? ? ?

HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? COB? ? ? ?IKFCBL00? RC= 0000? ? ?

+IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??

+IKF888I UNSUCCESSFUL SORT FOR WORK? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? GO? ? ? ? LOADER? ? RC= 0000? ?
----------------------------------------------------
Dagfinn D. Hammar?


Re: COBOL Sort - - +IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS

 



Joe

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:40?PM Joe Monk via <joemonk64=[email protected]> wrote:
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Joe

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:30?AM Dagfinn Hammar <dagfinndh33@...> wrote:
Hi
Is there a solution for this error. Is there a jcl setup for cobol sort compile jobs?
HERC0101? ?STEP04? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEFBR14? ?RC= 0000? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP05? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEBGENER? RC= 0000? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? COB? ? ? ?IKFCBL00? RC= 0000? ? ?
+IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
+IKF888I UNSUCCESSFUL SORT FOR WORK? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? GO? ? ? ? LOADER? ? RC= 0000? ?
----------------------------------------------------
Dagfinn D. Hammar?


Re: COBOL Sort - - +IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS

 

image.png

Joe

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:30?AM Dagfinn Hammar <dagfinndh33@...> wrote:
Hi
Is there a solution for this error. Is there a jcl setup for cobol sort compile jobs?
HERC0101? ?STEP04? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEFBR14? ?RC= 0000? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP05? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEBGENER? RC= 0000? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? COB? ? ? ?IKFCBL00? RC= 0000? ? ?
+IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
+IKF888I UNSUCCESSFUL SORT FOR WORK? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? GO? ? ? ? LOADER? ? RC= 0000? ?
----------------------------------------------------
Dagfinn D. Hammar?


Re: COBOL Sort - - +IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS

 

+IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS
+IKF888I UNSUCCESSFUL SORT FOR WORK
Add sort work dd statements.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:30?AM Dagfinn Hammar <dagfinndh33@...> wrote:

Hi
Is there a solution for this error. Is there a jcl setup for cobol sort compile jobs?
HERC0101 STEP04 IEFBR14 RC= 0000
HERC0101 STEP05 IEBGENER RC= 0000
HERC0101 STEP06 COB IKFCBL00 RC= 0000
+IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS
+IKF888I UNSUCCESSFUL SORT FOR WORK
HERC0101 STEP06 GO LOADER RC= 0000
----------------------------------------------------
Dagfinn D. Hammar


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COBOL Sort - - +IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS

 

Hi
Is there a solution for this error. Is there a jcl setup for cobol sort compile jobs?
HERC0101? ?STEP04? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEFBR14? ?RC= 0000? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP05? ? ? ? ? ? ? IEBGENER? RC= 0000? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? COB? ? ? ?IKFCBL00? RC= 0000? ? ?
+IER040A - INSUFFICIENT WORK UNITS? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
+IKF888I UNSUCCESSFUL SORT FOR WORK? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
HERC0101? ?STEP06? ? GO? ? ? ? LOADER? ? RC= 0000? ?
----------------------------------------------------
Dagfinn D. Hammar?


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

If you've done $PJES2 and Z EOD, then you might as well reIPL anyway. QUIESCE and STOPALL are no different there.


On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 9:16?AM Andre via <procritic=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Robert,

I always used stopall instead of quiesce, because i heard that after quiesce restart is not possible.
But if you enter quiesce, then of course stopall is meaningless after that.
Is there any real advantages though?

Best wishes,
Andre



--
Jay Maynard


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Hi Robert,

I always used stopall instead of quiesce, because i heard that after quiesce restart is not possible.
But if you enter quiesce, then of course stopall is meaningless after that.
Is there any real advantages though?

Best wishes,
Andre


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

On 2024-02-26 18:52, Andre via groups.io wrote:
I must admit, i have OCD-like paranoia when it comes to system power down procedure.
Here is what i usually do:
1. Wait till my running jobs are finished.
2. Logoff all TSO sessions.
3. S SHUTDOWN
4.? Answer YES to following question:
??? *04 BPXI078D STOP OF ZFS REQUESTED. REPLY 'Y' TO? PROCEED. ANY OTHER REPLY WILL CANCEL THIS STOP.
5. $phasp (JES2 ENDED)
6. Z EOD ? (HALT EOD SUCCESSFUL)
6a: quiesce

7. stopall in Hercules console
Why would that be required?

Anyway, I finish with a script file containing "sfc xxx" for all my used-defined 3390's, after having run a job on z/OS to wipe the unused space (EOFDISK)

8. quit in Hercules console.
9. Make backups of your shadow disks, I keep 5 generations and run this bat file:

ren shadow-5 shadow-0
ren shadow-4 shadow-5
ren shadow-3 shadow-4
ren shadow-2 shadow-3
ren shadow-1 shadow-2
ren shadow-0 shadow-1
copy shadow\*.* shadow-1

Robert
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Some REXX code for use on z/OS -


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Hello Patrik!

I must admit, i have OCD-like paranoia when it comes to system power down procedure.
Here is what i usually do:
1. Wait till my running jobs are finished.
2. Logoff all TSO sessions.
3. S SHUTDOWN
4.? Answer YES to following question:
??? *04 BPXI078D STOP OF ZFS REQUESTED. REPLY 'Y' TO? PROCEED. ANY OTHER REPLY WILL CANCEL THIS STOP.???????
5. $phasp (JES2 ENDED)
6. Z EOD ? (HALT EOD SUCCESSFUL)
7. stopall in Hercules console
8. quit in Hercules console. ???

Best wishes,
Andre


On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 11:54 AM, Patrik Schindler wrote:
Hello Andre,

Am 25.02.2024 um 22:07 schrieb Andre via groups.io <procritic@...>:

I don't want to hurt my system with emergency shutdown, is there any way to reconnect to MVS console using 3270?
Just for the record, for years I'm ending OS/390 by just issuing a quit to the Hercules console to make it close the disk files properly. Of course I do this while the system is idle from user-submitted jobs. Too lazy to manually wade through the shutdown sequence, or trying to automate it as did TK4-. Had not noticed any adverse effects. Your mileage may vary.

:wq! PoC


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Patrik Schindler wrote:

]...]
Just for the record, for years I'm ending OS/390 by just
issuing a quit to the Hercules console to make it close
the disk files properly.
So you DO care about Hercules closing its disks properly but DON'T care about your OS/390 guest closing its disks properly?

You're a strange person, Patrik. :)


Of course I do this while the system is idle from user-
submitted jobs.
But to hell with any system processes who's disk buffers might not have been flushed yet? You don't care about those? They're not important, right?


Too lazy to manually wade through the shutdown sequence,
or trying to automate it as did TK4-.
Of course! No one wants to mess with any stinking automation after all. Just pull the plug!


Had not noticed any adverse effects.
Well, each guest is different I guess. OS/390 must obviously behave quite a bit differently than other guest operating systems.


Your mileage may vary.
Indeed. If it works for you? Fine.

But I personally would *never* publicly recommend such an irresponsible highly risky procedure to others.

But then as I guess you say, your mileage may vary. Right? >;-)

p.s. I'm curious: do you power off you Linux host operating system the same way? Just pull the plug?

--
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
Software Development Laboratories

mail: fish@...


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

From the Linux or windows command line do this??? ?(x3270 -model 3279-2-E -once 127.0.0.1:3237&)


Even if you kill your Hercules session there won't be any damage because it is a user space application.

regards;

Rahim???



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On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 03:07:48 PM CST, Andre via groups.io <procritic@...> wrote:


Hello Everyone!

Please help! I am so stupid, started IPL of z/OS with no 3270s opened.
So i don't have MVS console window now. Only TSO.
In my config there was no 3215-C either, so / commands from Hercules console doesn't work.
I don't want to hurt my system with emergency shutdown, is there any way to reconnect to MVS console using 3270?

Andre :(


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Patrik,

Are you still talking Z/OS, or OS/390?

For Z/OS, you might want to investigate "S SHUTDOWN"

Chris
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<cjar1950@...>



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On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:54:12 +0100
"Patrik Schindler" <poc@...> wrote:
Hello Andre,

Am 25.02.2024 um 22:07 schrieb Andre via groups.io <procritic@...>:

I don't want to hurt my system with emergency shutdown, is there any way to reconnect to MVS console using 3270?
Just for the record, for years I'm ending OS/390 by just issuing a quit to the Hercules console to make it close the disk files properly. Of course I do this while the system is idle from user-submitted jobs. Too lazy to manually wade through the shutdown sequence, or trying to automate it as did TK4-. Had not noticed any adverse effects. Your mileage may vary.

:wq! PoC





Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Hello Andre,

Am 25.02.2024 um 22:07 schrieb Andre via groups.io <procritic@...>:

I don't want to hurt my system with emergency shutdown, is there any way to reconnect to MVS console using 3270?
Just for the record, for years I'm ending OS/390 by just issuing a quit to the Hercules console to make it close the disk files properly. Of course I do this while the system is idle from user-submitted jobs. Too lazy to manually wade through the shutdown sequence, or trying to automate it as did TK4-. Had not noticed any adverse effects. Your mileage may vary.

:wq! PoC


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

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Andre,
The system is very forgiving..
While your efforts were the correct way to fix your issue.? ?
I suggest you add the 3215-c back into your config file...
If you just exited ...my experience is that things would be fine

Enjoy?
-J-



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: "Andre via groups.io" <procritic@...>
Date: 2/25/24 4:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] HELP! How to return to MVS Console

Yay!! It worked! Thank you so much Piotr! I am saved!

Best wishes,
Andre


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Yay!! It worked! Thank you so much Piotr! I am saved!

Best wishes,
Andre


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

SDSF log and prefix command with slash:
/v devno,console

W dniu niedz., 25.02.2024 o 22:13 Andre via <procritic=[email protected]> napisa?(a):

Hello Piotr!

vary is a MVS console command, which i dont have

Andre


Re: HELP! How to return to MVS Console

 

Hello Piotr!

vary is a MVS console command, which i dont have

Andre