Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Hi Vince, Yes, I know the difference between a TERMINAL emulator (wx3270) and the MAINFRAME emulator (Hercules).? I've not touched any of the MVS system parameters in TK4- at all; I'm simply experimenting with the screen settings in the terminal emulators and seeing if I can get a nice wide display from the editing tools so I don't have to hit PF10/PF11 when looking at JES2 output and/or datasets with a larger LRECL than 80. For the others who've recommended Vista, besides the free wx3270, I already have vista tn3270, as well as vista tn3270 v2, and (now) I also have a 90 day trial of IBM Personal Communications.? With all of these terminal emulators now available to me I've just experimented in all kinds of modes with all of them on the version of RPF that came with TK4-.?? I don't want to get in a terminal emulators war, a productivity tools war or anything else of the sort; but this is what I've observed, and I could be wrong in my conclusions but it's what I see:? Vista and IBM Personal Communications, when putting in larger display modes, seem to switch back and forth between classic 80x24 mode and extended mode (M1-M5) dynamically.? For example when displaying the TK4- login banner, they are in 80x24 and they may either scale up the font size accordingly (if your window is maximized) or reduce the window size if the font size is fixed.? Whereas wx3270 is keeping the custom dimensions I gave it (e.g. 150x43) and displays the login banner in the upper left corner. RPF seems to dynamically switch screen modes - its first screen is 80x24.? If I've maximized the IBM Personal Communications window, it will auto-center the first RPF screen in 80x24 mode. Vista will make the terminal window larger or smaller.? Whereas RFE scales itself really nice on wx3270.? Have a look at this screenshot where I'm browsing (as HERC03) the SYS2.JCCLLIB(PRIMCOB1) dataset.? (I display the settings dialog over the screen on purpose to show that it's a custom size of 43 rows/150 columns).? And then, have a look at the 2nd screen shot that shows a full JES2 output log without needing to scroll left/right.? That is why I personally like to have options that allow one a wider terminal screen.??  
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
On 20/11/2020 20:28, Jeffrey Melton via groups.io wrote: Hi Jeff,
I know now that the problem is likely because of the version of the RPF originally in v8 of TK4- is very old, and probably not the emulator... I'm going to install latest version of RPF on my TK4- tonight and see if the display works well.
But for the record, the emulator I'm using is wx3270, which is the windows flavor of the same family as the linux x3270 emulator. Wiki page is here...
The wx3270, x3270, vista etc are all terminal programs that emulate the original IBM dumb terminals (VDU and keyboard). Hercules is the 'emulator' which emulates the IBM mainframe hardware that you run MVS under. No I do not use such a long screen as I thought that max sizing is 80 x 43 (Model 4) or 132 x 27 (model 5). Going above these could result in the system not playing nice and I am not sure the the model 5 is supported any way - try the model 5 settings and see. I cannot remember where the sizes are set up but they are in one of the MVS system param files . Vincent <>
Granted, it's alpha software, but it has the classic 3270 font built in, the font automatically scales if I maximize the screen size, it allows for customized screen sizes beyond M2-M5, and I've found it to be pretty decent so far.? Better than the wc3270 at any rate...? I also like Tom Brennan's Vista 3270 version 2 which allows for scalable screen size/custom fonts as well, but Tom earlier advised me that his V2 is dead-end.? I really want to use a free/reasonably priced emulator that can cope well with screens larger than 80X24 if at all possible (putty/mintty have spoiled me that way!).? Just curious, how much does IBM Personal Communications cost?
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Re: Attn does not interrupt
This is deeper than I thought.?
There are started tasks called VTAM and SNASOL but I haven't found out yet whether they are IBM-supplied or not.
So perhaps I shouldn't be surprised at different behaviour :-)
Thanks for all the advice.
Roops
On 2020-11-18 9:08 PM, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
> Attn could interrupt any TSO program
I think ATTN button functionality depends on having an SNA session.
If your TSO terminal is an MVS 3270 I/O device with its own device
address, then that is a non-SNA session and so ATTN does not function.?
PA1 will perform the TSO attention function - use RESET first to undo an
input-inhibited state first if necessary.
Given the limited number of I/O addresses and the growth of networks
over the years, as time went on a greater percentage of TSO connectivity
came under the SNA and SNA-like umbrella, with ATTN often working even
for modern TSO sessions over TCP/IP (depending on the TN3270 parameters
used for Communication Server).
When a 3270 terminal is an I/O device, ATTN may not be an AID-generating
key - or so I imagine, but I'm not really a network guy.
Cheers,
Greg
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Joe Monk wrote: Go get tombrennan's vista tn 3270.
Yep. HIGHLY recommended. But might also try using the STABLE version of wc3270 instead of (unstable?) alpha version of wx3270 that he's been using. <shrug> Just a thought. :) (But yeah, I also recommend Tom Brennan's Vista 3270 for Windows. Tom is a long time mainframe system programmer (see: ) and he wrote his Vista 3270 for Windows to correct various deficiencies other 3270 emulators had. Vista 3270 is the result, and it works extremely well IMHO. Highly recommended.) -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Go get tombrennan's?vista tn?3270.
Joe
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 3:49 PM Jeffrey Melton via <melman74= [email protected]> wrote: So I'm downloading the 90 day trial of PCOMM...
As I'm just a hobbyist with Hercules and the old mainframe OS's and haven't actually worked on a real mainframe in decades, I'm therefore loathe to pay anything over $100 for a single-user perpetual license of an emulation package, let alone the $329/2 years price that I saw when googling "PCOMM Pricing".? I'm just looking for a simple 3270 emulator, nothing for system i or Rational, or any of that other stuff.? But I'll be open minded when IBM gets back to me, and if they personally quote me something unreasonable, I'll have no issues telling them so...
Bottom line, If the older and/or latest versions of RPF won't play nice with a free or reasonably priced emulator, I'll just have to use RFE for my working environment on MVS3.8, which I've already confirmed plays very nicely with wx3270 out of the box.? The only way I could get the default version of RPF to work on my wx3270 emulator was in 80x25 mode - again, I'm too spoiled to work under those confines today. :)
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
So I'm downloading the 90 day trial of PCOMM...
As I'm just a hobbyist with Hercules and the old mainframe OS's and haven't actually worked on a real mainframe in decades, I'm therefore loathe to pay anything over $100 for a single-user perpetual license of an emulation package, let alone the $329/2 years price that I saw when googling "PCOMM Pricing".? I'm just looking for a simple 3270 emulator, nothing for system i or Rational, or any of that other stuff.? But I'll be open minded when IBM gets back to me, and if they personally quote me something unreasonable, I'll have no issues telling them so...
Bottom line, If the older and/or latest versions of RPF won't play nice with a free or reasonably priced emulator, I'll just have to use RFE for my working environment on MVS3.8, which I've already confirmed plays very nicely with wx3270 out of the box.? The only way I could get the default version of RPF to work on my wx3270 emulator was in 80x25 mode - again, I'm too spoiled to work under those confines today. :)
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Jeff,
I am running version RPF 46.6 ¨C that came on TK4-
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I just downloaded the new version ¨C however, I have not yet installed it ¡..
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Again, try a different emulator ¨C I tried every possible terminal ¨C all worked exactly as expected with PCOMM ¨C
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I do not currently have any of the other suggested emulators because I use PCOMM for work ¨C so ¨C I simply use it¡..
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You can download a trial version ¨C just Google IBM Personal communications trial ¨C
I used version 5 and 6 for a long time ¨C only recently upgraded to v14 ¨C
-J-
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On Behalf Of Jeffrey Melton via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Marketing Mail] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
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Hi Jeff,
I know now that the problem is likely because of the version of the RPF originally in v8 of TK4- is very old, and probably not the emulator... I'm going to install latest version of RPF on my TK4- tonight and see if the display works well.
But for the record, the emulator I'm using is wx3270, which is the windows flavor of the same family as the linux x3270 emulator.? Wiki page is here...
Granted, it's alpha software, but it has the classic 3270 font built in, the font automatically scales if I maximize the screen size, it allows for customized screen sizes beyond M2-M5, and I've found it to be pretty decent so far.? Better than the wc3270 at
any rate...? I also like Tom Brennan's Vista 3270 version 2 which allows for scalable screen size/custom fonts as well, but Tom earlier advised me that his V2 is dead-end.? I really want to use a free/reasonably priced emulator that can cope well with screens
larger than 80X24 if at all possible (putty/mintty have spoiled me that way!).? Just curious, how much does IBM Personal Communications cost?
-Jeff
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Hi Jeff,
I know now that the problem is likely because of the version of the RPF originally in v8 of TK4- is very old, and probably not the emulator... I'm going to install latest version of RPF on my TK4- tonight and see if the display works well.
But for the record, the emulator I'm using is wx3270, which is the windows flavor of the same family as the linux x3270 emulator.? Wiki page is here...
Granted, it's alpha software, but it has the classic 3270 font built in, the font automatically scales if I maximize the screen size, it allows for customized screen sizes beyond M2-M5, and I've found it to be pretty decent so far.? Better than the wc3270 at any rate...? I also like Tom Brennan's Vista 3270 version 2 which allows for scalable screen size/custom fonts as well, but Tom earlier advised me that his V2 is dead-end.? I really want to use a free/reasonably priced emulator that can cope well with screens larger than 80X24 if at all possible (putty/mintty have spoiled me that way!).? Just curious, how much does IBM Personal Communications cost?
-Jeff
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Re: Help request: COBOL Compile, Link and Go
Hello Jay, Am 20.11.2020 um 18:50 schrieb Jay Moseley <JayMoseley@...>: After the question/discussion yesterday regarding COBOL DD Names, I have added links to the IBM COBOL manual and User's Guide and the Linkage Editor User's Guide. I also cobbled together a table summarizing the DD Names for the COBOL compiler, Link Editor, Loader, and user program execution Thanks a lot! Your site is very helpful, I very much appreciate your work! :wq! PoC
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Re: Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Just follow the instructions. It will install fine.
Joe
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:01 PM Jeffrey Melton via <melman74= [email protected]> wrote: After posting the above and waiting for moderator to approve, I realize now that I'm dealing with a very old version of RPF that was part of the TK4- original install.
So my follow-up question to Rob is that if I follow your install directions, will it safely install the new version of RPF or is there an uninstall procedure or steps I should follow to clear out all of the old files first before installing new version of RPF?
Thanks,?
Jeff
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Re: Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
After posting the above and waiting for moderator to approve, I realize now that I'm dealing with a very old version of RPF that was part of the TK4- original install.
So my follow-up question to Rob is that if I follow your install directions, will it safely install the new version of RPF or is there an uninstall procedure or steps I should follow to clear out all of the old files first before installing new version of RPF?
Thanks,?
Jeff
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Re: Help request: COBOL Compile, Link and Go
in FORTRAN the card punch is unit 7
I wouldn't have a clue about the paper tape reader
Tim
On Saturday, 21 November 2020, 3:23:44 am AEDT, Greg Price <procegrog@...> wrote:
On 2020-11-20 9:13 AM, marcoxa@... wrote: > I assume that for Fortran and PL/1 you would have to deal with similar > issues. Real FORTRAN types will know the unit number assignments better than I do, but unit 5 was traditionally the card reader and unit 6 was traditionally the line printer.? (Unit numbers for paper tape reader and card punch, anyone?) This means that most OS FORTRAN programs require a DD of FT06F001 to be allocated - to the terminal in TSO is usually good, while to SYSOUT in batch is usually good. For TSO, FT05F001 would also be allocated to the terminal in the usual case. IIRC, SUPRTREK will not run unless FT06F001 is allocated. For PL/I, SYSPRINT is the default print/report DD name, although for "modern" levels other DD names may be used for the underlying Language Environment input (default options etc.) and output (abends. etc.).? Even so, the default "print" output from the application goes to SYSPRINT unless another DD is specifically requested. If a PL/I programmer gets thirsty, does he/she drink a SYSPINT of their favourite beverage? (A reference to PL/I's habit of first 4 plus last 3 characters of an external reference making up the 7-character-linited name used by PL/I internally.? I suppose I'm the only one who thinks that's funny... :(? ) Cheers, Greg
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Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: [H390-MVS] Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
I am not sure which emulator you are using ¨C however, I am using REAL IBM Personal Communications (I have several different versions ¨C all work the same) and
this works FINE.
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I would suggest you might want to try a different emulator ¨C
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Remember, it is only recently that anything larger than a M5 3270 was allowed ¨C
M2 ¨C 24X80
M3 ¨C 32X80
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M??? 62X160
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I just tried each on my system here ¨C all work exactly as would be expected.?
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Hey Rob,
I'm interested in learning more about RPF.? However, I'm using it in the latest TK4- environment, I notice that it isn't playing nice with the wx3270 emulator when setting up a terminal of 43 rows and 150 columns.? See the attached screen shot.? I read on the
manual linked above that RPF was designed for larger terminals, however.? So is there something I need to do to get RPF to work well with my extended terminal?
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Re: Attn does not interrupt
According to the 3274 programmers manual, the ATTN ?key only ?operates in an SNA environment.
Joe
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:23 AM Patrik Schindler < poc@...> wrote: Hello Greg,
Am 20.11.2020 um 17:09 schrieb Greg Price <procegrog@...>:
> Perhaps a real network guy will step in and explain it properly...
This was a very interesting read with some welcome background detail. Thanks!
:wq! PoC
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Re: Newbie question about REVIEW/RPF etc
Hey Rob, I'm interested in learning more about RPF.? However, I'm using it in the latest TK4- environment, I notice that it isn't playing nice with the wx3270 emulator when setting up a terminal of 43 rows and 150 columns.? See the attached screen shot.? I read on the manual linked above that RPF was designed for larger terminals, however.? So is there something I need to do to get RPF to work well with my extended terminal? 
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Re: Help request: COBOL Compile, Link and Go
in FORTRAN the card punch is unit 7
Tim
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Re: Trying to add a printer or punch as sockdev
"I don't know how JES2 links PRT1 to an MVS device address!"
Thats in member JES2PM00 in SYS1.PARMLIB....
*? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?LOCAL PRINTERS ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? *? *? PRINTER1 ? ? ? UNIT=00E,CLASS=A,FCB=6,FORMS=STD1,SEP,AUTO ? ? ? ? ? ? ?C ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NOPAUSE,START ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1403 ? ? ?? PRINTER2 ? ? ? UNIT=00F,CLASS=M,FCB=6,FORMS=STD1,SEP,AUTO ? ? ? ? ? ? ?C ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?NOPAUSE,UCS=TB,START ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?3211 ? ? ?? *?
Thanks. That JES2 command has moved things forward--I can connect now.
But I realise I need to RTFM on JES2 and printing. I didn't ever have much to do with printing, and it was JES3 in my shop.
I don't know how JES2 links PRT1 to an MVS device address!
Roops.
On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 17:01 Rahim Azizarab via , <rahimazizarab= [email protected]> wrote: You already have the definition? B 0003 3211 PRT? sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
I usually use 1403 for Printer;? I am not sure if the highlighted part is necessary. Just go to your Web browser and type localhost:4444;? you may need to do a $S PRT1 on your SCP (Hercules) console too.? ?
On Friday, November 20, 2020, 10:49:49 AM CST, Rupert Reynolds < rupertreynolds@...> wrote:
Can anyone suggest what to do next, please? I'm trying to understand the various options for TCP/IP links
between MVS and the host. I'm mostly ignorant of the Herc options for sockdev devices and CTCs etc, and I
did do a SYSGEN a few times many years ago, but most of the details are forgotten.
I don't think it's a configuration problem on the host, as I can connect to
port 3505 (RDR) and submit jobs just fine, although it shows as a 2540 in MVS (00c).
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Given this result from /D U in the Hercules console, I was assuming that there are two 3211 printers in the IOGEN, 002 and 003.
HHC00008I /d u
15.36.56?????????? IEE450I 15.36.56 UNIT STATUS 447
?UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE?? UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE
?002? 3211 A???????????????????????? 003? 3211 OFFLINE
?009? 3215 C???????????????????????? 00C? 2540 A
?00D? 2540 A???????????????????????? 00E? 1403 A
?00F? 1403 A???????????????????????? 010? 3277 OFFLINE
?011? 3277 OFFLINE?????????????????? 01F? 3215 OFFLINE
?070? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 071? 2703 OFFLINE
?072? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 073? 2703 OFFLINE
?074? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 075? 2703 OFFLINE
?076? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 077? 2703 OFFLINE
?080? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 081? 2703 OFFLINE
?082? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 083? 2703 OFFLINE
?084? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 085? 2703 OFFLINE
?086? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 087? 2703 OFFLINE
If I hit Esc to view hardware from Hercules' POV, 003 is missing. So I added 003 in the TK4-.cnf :-
# unit record devices
#
0002 3211 prt/prt002.txt ${TK4CRLF}
0003 3211 sockdev
And now it appears in the Hercules hardware list (below), but I can't connect to it on port 4444 from
Win64 telnet, a simple socket client I bashed together, or using telnet from Linux. For comparison,
I /can/ connect to Hercules port 21 if I start FTPD.
Roops
Enc:-
U Addr Modl Type Assignment
A 0002 3211 PRT? prt/prt002.txt crlf print fcbck IO[2]
B 0003 3211 PRT? sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
C 000E 1403 PRT? prt/prt00e.txt crlf print fcbck IO[21]
D 000C 3505 RDR? 3505 sockdev ascii trunc eof IO[4]
E 000D 3525 PCH? pch/pch00d.txt ascii IO[2]
F 0480 3420 TAPE * IO[4] maxsize=0 eotmargin=128K deonirq=N
G 010C 3505 RDR? jcl/dummy ascii trunc eof IO[2]
H 010D 3525 PCH? pch/pch10d.txt ascii IO[2]
I 000F 1403 PRT? prt/prt00f.txt crlf print fcbck IO[117]
J 030E 1403 PRT? log/hardcopy.log crlf print fcbck IO[449]
K 0009 3215 CON? *syscons cmdpref(/) IO[237]
L 00C0 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
M 00C1 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
N 00C2 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
O 00C3 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
P 00C4 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
Q 00C5 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
R 00C6 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
S 00C7 3287 DSP? * IO[2]
T 03C0 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
U 03C1 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
V 03C2 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
W 03C3 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
X 03C4 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Y 03C5 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Z 03C6 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 03C7 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 0610 3088 CTCA IO[1]
. 0611 3088 CTCA IO[1]
. 0660 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0661 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0662 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0663 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0664 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0665 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0666 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0667 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
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Re: Trying to add a printer or punch as sockdev
Here is a working example from my conf file.
000E? 1403?? 127.0.0.1:1403? sockdev
000F? 1403?? 127.0.0.1:1404? sockdev
On Friday, November 20, 2020, 12:15:27 PM CST, Rupert Reynolds <rupertreynolds@...> wrote:
Thanks. That JES2 command has moved things forward--I can connect now.
But I realise I need to RTFM on JES2 and printing. I didn't ever have much to do with printing, and it was JES3 in my shop.
I don't know how JES2 links PRT1 to an MVS device address!
Roops.
On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 17:01 Rahim Azizarab via , <rahimazizarab= [email protected]> wrote: You already have the definition? B 0003 3211 PRT? sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
I usually use 1403 for Printer;? I am not sure if the highlighted part is necessary. Just go to your Web browser and type localhost:4444;? you may need to do a $S PRT1 on your SCP (Hercules) console too.? ?
On Friday, November 20, 2020, 10:49:49 AM CST, Rupert Reynolds < rupertreynolds@...> wrote:
Can anyone suggest what to do next, please? I'm trying to understand the various options for TCP/IP links
between MVS and the host. I'm mostly ignorant of the Herc options for sockdev devices and CTCs etc, and I
did do a SYSGEN a few times many years ago, but most of the details are forgotten.
I don't think it's a configuration problem on the host, as I can connect to
port 3505 (RDR) and submit jobs just fine, although it shows as a 2540 in MVS (00c).
?
Given this result from /D U in the Hercules console, I was assuming that there are two 3211 printers in the IOGEN, 002 and 003.
HHC00008I /d u
15.36.56?????????? IEE450I 15.36.56 UNIT STATUS 447
?UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE?? UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE
?002? 3211 A???????????????????????? 003? 3211 OFFLINE
?009? 3215 C???????????????????????? 00C? 2540 A
?00D? 2540 A???????????????????????? 00E? 1403 A
?00F? 1403 A???????????????????????? 010? 3277 OFFLINE
?011? 3277 OFFLINE?????????????????? 01F? 3215 OFFLINE
?070? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 071? 2703 OFFLINE
?072? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 073? 2703 OFFLINE
?074? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 075? 2703 OFFLINE
?076? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 077? 2703 OFFLINE
?080? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 081? 2703 OFFLINE
?082? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 083? 2703 OFFLINE
?084? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 085? 2703 OFFLINE
?086? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 087? 2703 OFFLINE
If I hit Esc to view hardware from Hercules' POV, 003 is missing. So I added 003 in the TK4-.cnf :-
# unit record devices
#
0002 3211 prt/prt002.txt ${TK4CRLF}
0003 3211 sockdev
And now it appears in the Hercules hardware list (below), but I can't connect to it on port 4444 from
Win64 telnet, a simple socket client I bashed together, or using telnet from Linux. For comparison,
I /can/ connect to Hercules port 21 if I start FTPD.
Roops
Enc:-
U Addr Modl Type Assignment
A 0002 3211 PRT? prt/prt002.txt crlf print fcbck IO[2]
B 0003 3211 PRT? sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
C 000E 1403 PRT? prt/prt00e.txt crlf print fcbck IO[21]
D 000C 3505 RDR? 3505 sockdev ascii trunc eof IO[4]
E 000D 3525 PCH? pch/pch00d.txt ascii IO[2]
F 0480 3420 TAPE * IO[4] maxsize=0 eotmargin=128K deonirq=N
G 010C 3505 RDR? jcl/dummy ascii trunc eof IO[2]
H 010D 3525 PCH? pch/pch10d.txt ascii IO[2]
I 000F 1403 PRT? prt/prt00f.txt crlf print fcbck IO[117]
J 030E 1403 PRT? log/hardcopy.log crlf print fcbck IO[449]
K 0009 3215 CON? *syscons cmdpref(/) IO[237]
L 00C0 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
M 00C1 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
N 00C2 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
O 00C3 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
P 00C4 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
Q 00C5 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
R 00C6 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
S 00C7 3287 DSP? * IO[2]
T 03C0 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
U 03C1 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
V 03C2 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
W 03C3 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
X 03C4 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Y 03C5 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Z 03C6 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 03C7 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 0610 3088 CTCA IO[1]
. 0611 3088 CTCA IO[1]
. 0660 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0661 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0662 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0663 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0664 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0665 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0666 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0667 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
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Re: Trying to add a printer or punch as sockdev
Thanks. That JES2 command has moved things forward--I can connect now.
But I realise I need to RTFM on JES2 and printing. I didn't ever have much to do with printing, and it was JES3 in my shop.
I don't know how JES2 links PRT1 to an MVS device address!
Roops.
On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 17:01 Rahim Azizarab via , <rahimazizarab= [email protected]> wrote: You already have the definition? B 0003 3211 PRT? sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
I usually use 1403 for Printer;? I am not sure if the highlighted part is necessary. Just go to your Web browser and type localhost:4444;? you may need to do a $S PRT1 on your SCP (Hercules) console too.? ?
On Friday, November 20, 2020, 10:49:49 AM CST, Rupert Reynolds < rupertreynolds@...> wrote:
Can anyone suggest what to do next, please? I'm trying to understand the various options for TCP/IP links
between MVS and the host. I'm mostly ignorant of the Herc options for sockdev devices and CTCs etc, and I
did do a SYSGEN a few times many years ago, but most of the details are forgotten.
I don't think it's a configuration problem on the host, as I can connect to
port 3505 (RDR) and submit jobs just fine, although it shows as a 2540 in MVS (00c).
?
Given this result from /D U in the Hercules console, I was assuming that there are two 3211 printers in the IOGEN, 002 and 003.
HHC00008I /d u
15.36.56?????????? IEE450I 15.36.56 UNIT STATUS 447
?UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE?? UNIT TYPE STATUS? VOLSER VOLSTATE
?002? 3211 A???????????????????????? 003? 3211 OFFLINE
?009? 3215 C???????????????????????? 00C? 2540 A
?00D? 2540 A???????????????????????? 00E? 1403 A
?00F? 1403 A???????????????????????? 010? 3277 OFFLINE
?011? 3277 OFFLINE?????????????????? 01F? 3215 OFFLINE
?070? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 071? 2703 OFFLINE
?072? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 073? 2703 OFFLINE
?074? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 075? 2703 OFFLINE
?076? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 077? 2703 OFFLINE
?080? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 081? 2703 OFFLINE
?082? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 083? 2703 OFFLINE
?084? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 085? 2703 OFFLINE
?086? 2703 OFFLINE?????????????????? 087? 2703 OFFLINE
If I hit Esc to view hardware from Hercules' POV, 003 is missing. So I added 003 in the TK4-.cnf :-
# unit record devices
#
0002 3211 prt/prt002.txt ${TK4CRLF}
0003 3211 sockdev
And now it appears in the Hercules hardware list (below), but I can't connect to it on port 4444 from
Win64 telnet, a simple socket client I bashed together, or using telnet from Linux. For comparison,
I /can/ connect to Hercules port 21 if I start FTPD.
Roops
Enc:-
U Addr Modl Type Assignment
A 0002 3211 PRT? prt/prt002.txt crlf print fcbck IO[2]
B 0003 3211 PRT? sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
C 000E 1403 PRT? prt/prt00e.txt crlf print fcbck IO[21]
D 000C 3505 RDR? 3505 sockdev ascii trunc eof IO[4]
E 000D 3525 PCH? pch/pch00d.txt ascii IO[2]
F 0480 3420 TAPE * IO[4] maxsize=0 eotmargin=128K deonirq=N
G 010C 3505 RDR? jcl/dummy ascii trunc eof IO[2]
H 010D 3525 PCH? pch/pch10d.txt ascii IO[2]
I 000F 1403 PRT? prt/prt00f.txt crlf print fcbck IO[117]
J 030E 1403 PRT? log/hardcopy.log crlf print fcbck IO[449]
K 0009 3215 CON? *syscons cmdpref(/) IO[237]
L 00C0 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
M 00C1 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
N 00C2 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
O 00C3 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
P 00C4 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
Q 00C5 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
R 00C6 3270 DSP? * IO[4]
S 00C7 3287 DSP? * IO[2]
T 03C0 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
U 03C1 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
V 03C2 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
W 03C3 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
X 03C4 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Y 03C5 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Z 03C6 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 03C7 3270 DSP? GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 0610 3088 CTCA IO[1]
. 0611 3088 CTCA IO[1]
. 0660 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0661 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0662 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0663 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0664 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0665 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0666 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0667 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
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Re: Trying to add a printer or punch as sockdev
Rupert, Just to see whats happening, I would suggest you look at Fish's HERCPRT (). Chris -- <cjar1950@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 17:57:25 +0000 "Rupert Reynolds" <rupertreynolds@...> wrote: Sorry I forgot to say that I tried /v 003,online (it's slash in my Hercules
for an MVS command, /$ for JES2)
The response was:-
IEE302I 003 ONLINE
The highlighted part after 'sockdev' was not in the config file. It seems
Hercules defaults to that for printers.
Roops
On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 17:01 Rahim Azizarab via groups.io, <rahimazizarab=
[email protected]> wrote:
You already have the definition
B 0003 3211 PRT 127.0.0.1:4444 sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
I usually use 1403 for Printer; I am not sure if the highlighted part is
necessary. Just go to your Web browser and type localhost:4444; you may
need to do a $S PRT1 on your SCP (Hercules) console too.
*Rahim *
On Friday, November 20, 2020, 10:49:49 AM CST, Rupert Reynolds <
rupertreynolds@...> wrote:
Can anyone suggest what to do next, please? I'm trying to understand the
various options for TCP/IP links
between MVS and the host. I'm mostly ignorant of the Herc options for
sockdev devices and CTCs etc, and I
did do a SYSGEN a few times many years ago, but most of the details are
forgotten.
I don't think it's a configuration problem on the host, as I can connect to
port 3505 (RDR) and submit jobs just fine, although it shows as a 2540 in
MVS (00c).
Given this result from /D U in the Hercules console, I was assuming that
there are two 3211 printers in the IOGEN, 002 and 003.
HHC00008I /d u
15.36.56 IEE450I 15.36.56 UNIT STATUS 447
UNIT TYPE STATUS VOLSER VOLSTATE UNIT TYPE STATUS VOLSER VOLSTATE
002 3211 A 003 3211 OFFLINE
009 3215 C 00C 2540 A
00D 2540 A 00E 1403 A
00F 1403 A 010 3277 OFFLINE
011 3277 OFFLINE 01F 3215 OFFLINE
070 2703 OFFLINE 071 2703 OFFLINE
072 2703 OFFLINE 073 2703 OFFLINE
074 2703 OFFLINE 075 2703 OFFLINE
076 2703 OFFLINE 077 2703 OFFLINE
080 2703 OFFLINE 081 2703 OFFLINE
082 2703 OFFLINE 083 2703 OFFLINE
084 2703 OFFLINE 085 2703 OFFLINE
086 2703 OFFLINE 087 2703 OFFLINE
If I hit Esc to view hardware from Hercules' POV, 003 is missing. So I
added 003 in the TK4-.cnf :-
# unit record devices
#
0002 3211 prt/prt002.txt ${TK4CRLF}
0003 3211 127.0.0.1:4444 sockdev
And now it appears in the Hercules hardware list (below), but I can't
connect to it on port 4444 from
Win64 telnet, a simple socket client I bashed together, or using telnet
from Linux. For comparison,
I /can/ connect to Hercules port 21 if I start FTPD.
Roops
Enc:-
U Addr Modl Type Assignment
A 0002 3211 PRT prt/prt002.txt crlf print fcbck IO[2]
B 0003 3211 PRT 127.0.0.1:4444 sockdev print fcbck IO[4]
C 000E 1403 PRT prt/prt00e.txt crlf print fcbck IO[21]
D 000C 3505 RDR 3505 sockdev ascii trunc eof IO[4]
E 000D 3525 PCH pch/pch00d.txt ascii IO[2]
F 0480 3420 TAPE * IO[4] maxsize=0 eotmargin=128K deonirq=N
G 010C 3505 RDR jcl/dummy ascii trunc eof IO[2]
H 010D 3525 PCH pch/pch10d.txt ascii IO[2]
I 000F 1403 PRT prt/prt00f.txt crlf print fcbck IO[117]
J 030E 1403 PRT log/hardcopy.log crlf print fcbck IO[449]
K 0009 3215 CON *syscons cmdpref(/) IO[237]
L 00C0 3270 DSP * IO[4]
M 00C1 3270 DSP * IO[4]
N 00C2 3270 DSP * IO[4]
O 00C3 3270 DSP * IO[4]
P 00C4 3270 DSP * IO[4]
Q 00C5 3270 DSP * IO[4]
R 00C6 3270 DSP * IO[4]
S 00C7 3287 DSP * IO[2]
T 03C0 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
U 03C1 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
V 03C2 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
W 03C3 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
X 03C4 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Y 03C5 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
Z 03C6 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 03C7 3270 DSP GROUP=TCAM IO[4]
. 0610 3088 CTCA 127.0.0.1:18610 IO[1]
. 0611 3088 CTCA 127.0.0.1:18611 IO[1]
. 0660 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0661 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0662 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0663 3705 LINE Read count=39, Write count=37 IO[77]
. 0664 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0665 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0666 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
. 0667 3705 LINE Read count=30, Write count=27 IO[58]
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Jeff Bassett