Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
On 11/3/20 12:23 AM, Wally Mclaughlin
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When I co-wrote Top Secret Security for MVS in
1981 ...
I still have a Tessie poster in my closet.? :-)
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Drew Derbyshire
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Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
Sorry to delay replying.? Busy week! Thanks for all the replies.
Harry Mernick was a senior programmer in? an office of (mostly) systems programmers at Nasty Wetmonster in London. He was due to retire in the 1990s.
We also had Steffen Fraas, who was well known in the JES3 world.
I remember hearing of ACE TEST, but I never got to try it.
DDT sounds good. I'll look at it when I've backed up :-)
The alternative is to write my own. But my memory of 3270 datastreams is half gone-it took me an hour or 2 just to clear the screen and get "Hello, world!" in full screen mode :-)
I'll report back if I mske any progress.
Roops
Hi Roops
The MVSDDT debugger Joe mentioned comes pre-installed and ready to use with TK4-. See TSO HELP member MVSDDT for usage information. It is _the_ best debugger for MVS 3.8 systems I know of.
Cheers
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Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
Hi Roops
The MVSDDT debugger Joe mentioned comes pre-installed and ready to use with TK4-. See TSO HELP member MVSDDT for usage information. It is _the_ best debugger for MVS 3.8 systems I know of.
Cheers
´³¨¹°ù²µ±ð²Ô
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Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
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I've used Hercules on and off over the? years, but I've never seen an MVS debugger as good as one I used at Nasty Wetmonster Bank. Written by Harry Mernick.
It was a set of extensions to the TEST command, but we didn't see the TEST prompt. It looked similar to ISPF browsing the assembly listing, but with PSW info and gp registers on show and the next instruction highlighted. Move the cursor and hit a PF key to set a breakpoint, single step on another PF key.
There was even one for authorised code. I guess it ran under the authorised TMP.
Has anyone seen such a thing? It would be dead handy debugging some macros and a compiler I'm porting.
Thanks for any pointers.
Roops
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Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
Hi Folks,
An easy way but not perfect, but it will help you.
Write the SYSUDUMP or SYSABEND to a file and browse the file with RPF.
You can set labels with the LABEL subcommand and find back with the L subcommand.
Press F1 in RPF browse for more information.
Cheers,
Rob
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Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
Roops, ? When I co-wrote Top Secret Security for MVS in 1981, I wrote an APF-authorized tester nicknamed ACETEST, similar in concept?to TSO Test but much smarter - ? It can run as an STC, Batch job, TSO command, or best as an ISPF Application. ? As an ISPF application, it supports full screen viewing of the PSW, registers, and memory,?and?you can edit memory simply by over-typing. ? You can test both APF-authorized and non-authorized programs. ? Full breakpoint support is available, and the greatest feature is that you can set a breakpoint, then go into STEP mode, which allows?you to step through code one instruction?at a time. After each instruction is executed the PSW, registers, and relevant storage areas are displayed. To step to the next instruction all you have to do is simply hit enter and the step breakpoint will move automatically to the next instruction to be executed. ? You can?set breakpoints in code which has been loaded into CSA or SQA. You can even set a global breakpoint in?common code (except real LPA), such that when any program in any address-space hits the breakpoint, Acetest is?automatically invoked, like an intelligent SLIP trap. ? You can test multiple programs at the same time as each program runs under its own TCB. I used to bring up IMS and CICS under?Acetest all the time. Then I could put breakpoints in Top Secret code, or in CICS code for example. I remember testing CICS MRO, and having 4 CICS regions, each running in its own address space under?Acetest, with breakpoints all over the place... ? Acetest also has features like?FIND, which will find a data string anywhere in memory, WHERE, which will?tell you where a given address is, as in what offset in what module, or what?subpool.?All of the syntax is simple command based, like LOAD modname1, AT R3%+20, ASCB+40%, etc. ? I automatically include ACETEST with my ISPF. If you wish I can send both to you. ? Wally ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rupert Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 03:29 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [H390-MVS] Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J? ? I've used Hercules on and off over the? years, but I've never seen an MVS debugger as good as one I used at Nasty Wetmonster Bank. Written by Harry Mernick. It was a set of extensions to the TEST command, but we didn't see the TEST prompt. It looked similar to ISPF browsing the assembly listing, but with PSW info and gp registers on show and the next instruction highlighted. Move the cursor and hit a PF key to set a breakpoint, single step on another PF key. There was even one for authorised code. I guess it ran under the authorised TMP. Has anyone seen such a thing? It would be dead handy debugging some macros and a compiler I'm porting.
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Re: Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
Some years ago I talked to Dave Cole at Colesoft Inc. (makers of z/XDC, IMHO the best assembler debugger on the z market) about contributing his old, pre-XA version of XDC to the Hercules/MVS3.8 project and he agreed, but then could not find any source tapes earlier than MVS/XA.? He even asked on the IBM-MAIN list for anyone who might have an old tape of his software that didn¡¯t get thrown out or reused, but no one ever came up with one. ? He felt that his XA code was too deeply structured and dependent on XA internals for him to try to re-create the pre-XA version from the source tapes that he could find. ? Can you tell us who Harry Mernick is/was?? A fellow employee at that bank or a software developer working for an ISV or . . . ? ? I am told that the MVS-DDT debugger available for MVS3.8 works well, but I have not had time to delve into it myself, so I don¡¯t know if it fits your needs. ? Peter ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rupert Reynolds Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 8:29 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [H390-MVS] Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J? ? I've used Hercules on and off over the? years, but I've never seen an MVS debugger as good as one I used at Nasty Wetmonster Bank. Written by Harry Mernick. It was a set of extensions to the TEST command, but we didn't see the TEST prompt. It looked similar to ISPF browsing the assembly listing, but with PSW info and gp registers on show and the next instruction highlighted. Move the cursor and hit a PF key to set a breakpoint, single step on another PF key. There was even one for authorised code. I guess it ran under the authorised TMP. Has anyone seen such a thing? It would be dead handy debugging some macros and a compiler I'm porting.
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Fullscreen debugger for MVS 3.8J?
I've used Hercules on and off over the? years, but I've never seen an MVS debugger as good as one I used at Nasty Wetmonster Bank. Written by Harry Mernick.
It was a set of extensions to the TEST command, but we didn't see the TEST prompt. It looked similar to ISPF browsing the assembly listing, but with PSW info and gp registers on show and the next instruction highlighted. Move the cursor and hit a PF key to set a breakpoint, single step on another PF key.
There was even one for authorised code. I guess it ran under the authorised TMP.
Has anyone seen such a thing? It would be dead handy debugging some macros and a compiler I'm porting.
Thanks for any pointers.
Roops
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I'm trying to add a new database in IMS ver 10.
I've got to the point where a /dis db mike01 shows it up.
But a /dis psb mike01pb is showing :
15.21.30 JOB00052 DFS000I MIKE01PB NOT DEFINED IN IMS IVP1
15.21.30 JOB00052 DFS000I *20307/152130* IVP1
*15.21.30 JOB00052 *05 DFS996I *IMS READY* IVP1
The dataset 'IMS1010.PSBLIB(MIKE01PB)' is there.
Any ideas ?
Mike
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On 2020-10-26 11:06 PM, carlos feldman wrote: Where can I change the graphical properties ? Er, I don't know - I think I used Host Explorer at one job about 20 years ago, but the memories are dim... Most TN3270 clients have a settings interface where you can change the set up.? Look for terms like the following and change stuff to see if it makes a difference - always remembering the current setting in case it breaks something and you need to put it back the way it was, of course... LPS programmable symbols loadable symbols cell size cell format vector graphics DOSLINK OS2LINK PC-LINK GDDM Cheers, Greg
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Thanks for your answer greg,
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I'm not familiar with TSO/ISPF, i'm familiar with vm/CMS and plain and simple IBM360 JCM.
My goal was to start learning TSO/ISPF, but I find this frustrating thing, in the first screen of the first men¨².
Where can I change the graphical properties ?
I use the same mode 2 or mode 3 3720 terminal emulator setup, for MUSIC/SP and for VM/CMS.
Regards
Carlos
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On 2020-10-26 12:21 PM, carlos feldman
wrote:
My problem is not
file transfer, it's Rfe starting with some sort of configuration
screen, instead of its menu File transfer, on the other hand is
made in plain TSO environment, not in Rfe. Since seems there's no
manual for Rfe, I don't know what's going on or if there's some
configuration missing?
I'd try changing the graphics configuration of your terminal set up.
If it offers different types of graphics then change it.? You could
also turning it off.
Here's how it's supposed to look (if the paste works):
You could also try the latest RFE version if you're not already on
it.
Release 49.9 is available from
Cheers,
Greg
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My problem is not file transfer, it's Rfe starting with some sort of configuration screen, instead of its menu File transfer, on the other hand is made in plain TSO environment, not in Rfe. Since seems there's no manual for Rfe, I don't know what's going on or if there's some configuration missing?
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Hi, my problem is Rfe, not Starting properly. I successfully, sent and received files From TCO, using ind$file. Thanks for your suggestion?
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Not dreaming, but I think that one wasn't JES2, it was asking why the IPL?
It's in TK3 and TK4 somewhere.
On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 9:47:49 AM EDT, Joe Monk <joemonk64@...> wrote:
Am i dreaming, or did I remember a usermod that eliminated the need for the "R 00,U" to the message at JES2 initialization?
Joe
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Hi,
If you transfer an XMI file (like RFE is), the receiving file has a record length of 80.
The blksize should be a multiple of 80.
Afterwards you can transfer in binary mode file rev370ld.xmi with IND$FILE to your system.
With PDSLOAD you can copy the file to a partitioned load library.
Copy this library (with RFE 3.3 or RPF 3.3) to SYS2.CMDLIB will complete your installation.
Cheers,
Rob
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To do a file transfer in your 3270, you can go to File then File Transfer.? Your record length is not an issue, you just need to ensure that you have a PDS allocated with record length of greater or equal to your record length.
Rahim?
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Carlos, Ind$file will transfer the files or ftpd ..you might watch this video from Moshix on the subject:
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On Oct 25, 2020, at 10:55 AM, carlos feldman <carlfelster@...> wrote:
? Hi Everyone,
I?m using Host explorer with Tk4- MVS, a distro fresh disk set.
when I select? option 1 RFE, this screen appears:
<dummyfile.0.part>
I can choose from this menu, options 1,2,6,x, and the screesn goest to the corresponding RFE.
Seems like some kind of configuration issue. How can I solve it ?
Funny thing is that with Vista Tn3270 terminal, things go smoothly.
I'm not a heavy user of Host Explorer, But I wanted to transfer files to MVS ( I cant use the reader, they are LRECL 170).
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Regards
?
Carlos
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Hi Everyone,
I?m using Host explorer with Tk4- MVS, a distro fresh disk set.
when I select? option 1 RFE, this screen appears:
I can choose from this menu, options 1,2,6,x, and the screesn goest to the corresponding RFE.
Seems like some kind of configuration issue. How can I solve it ?
Funny thing is that with Vista Tn3270 terminal, things go smoothly.
I'm not a heavy user of Host Explorer, But I wanted to transfer files to MVS ( I cant use the reader, they are LRECL 170).
?
Regards
?
Carlos
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Am i dreaming, or did I remember a usermod that eliminated the need for the "R 00,U" to the message at JES2 initialization?
Joe
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Rob Prins
carlos feldman