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Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Hello,

Am 07.07.2020 um 16:25 schrieb Joe Monk <joemonk64@...>:

I have renewed the domain for two years.
So, if the hoster did not delete the web server configuration, it should be there again, but it's not (yet?).

:wq! PoC

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Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Hello Jim,

Am 07.07.2020 um 00:08 schrieb Jim Morrison <n9gtm@...>:

My timing was excellent, I snarfed the site 2020-06-26. I was way overdue since my prior snarf was 2012-04-21. A different of 567 bytes between the two dates, so even older backups should be nearly complete. All told about 408 MB.

I dropped him a line a few days/weeks ago, but haven't heard back yet, but that's fairly typical. Any response at all tended to come after a lengthy delay.
Okay. If you don't get response, I guess I want to publish the site under a subdomain of pocnet.net, so this resource isn't lost. If you can provide me with an archive.

Apparently, Joe was faster. :-)

:wq! PoC

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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi

 

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 05:54 PM, Bill Lewis wrote:
I built gcc from source once on a Pi Zero.? It took 5 days elapsed wall clock time.
But it all worked.
I remember building GCC on a 386/33 running 386BSD or NetBSD early 90s. The instructions took about 4-6 pages... once you got through all that, you hit the paragraph that said "or you can combine all these steps by doing a "make <something>". I cussed.

A few weeks later, a coworker building GCC on SunOS went through the same thing. Cussed about the same thing.

We both laughed about it later, but it took beer.


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Great Joe,

Thank you very much

Cheers,
Rob


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

I have renewed the domain for two years.

Joe

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:15 AM Kevin Monceaux <Kevin@...> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 03:05:05PM +0100, cjar1950 via wrote:

> When I did register the domain with DENIC, I became a so-called gold
> member, and thus the domain was registered for the span of twenty year.

> Does this imply that the domain still exists?.

The fact that the domain registration expired seems to imply that it's been
twenty years since he registered the domain.



--

Kevin



Bruceville, TX

What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.




Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 03:05:05PM +0100, cjar1950 via groups.io wrote:

When I did register the domain with DENIC, I became a so-called gold
member, and thus the domain was registered for the span of twenty year.
Does this imply that the domain still exists?.
The fact that the domain registration expired seems to imply that it's been
twenty years since he registered the domain.



--

Kevin



Bruceville, TX

What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Scott,

In 2017 (I didn't realise it was so long ago), Volker anounced his
"retirement" on the turnkey-mvs group on Yahoo, and that
www.bsp-gmbh.com would cease to exist (topic "new TK3 owner required/needed").

There was some discussion amongst members.

Eventually, on 12 June 2017, Volker advised:-

"I said, that on June 22nd the website www.bsp-gmbh.com would no longer be available, as I had cancelled the
webspace where this was hosted.
Well, what I had forgotten, when I registered www.bsp-gmbh.com many years ago, this was done outside of my
subscription to the webhoster. When I did register the domain with DENIC, I became a so-called gold member,
and thus the domain was registered for the span of twenty year. In other words, I still have that domain, and
will have it for some time to come.

My new web provider was coaxed into pointing my new web space to www.bsp-gmbh.com, and I moved all the data from the old webspace to the new one. This means that www.bsp-gmbh.com continues to be available for the foreseeable future, albeit at a different IP address than before. I did that transition some time ago already, therefore there should be no issued involved for any spurious users."

Does this imply that the domain still exists?.


Chris
--
<cjar1950@...>



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On Mon, 06 Jul 2020 16:17:23 -0700
"ScottC via groups.io" <sccosel@...> wrote:
Just got off the phone with "Jenny Angell" at Network Solutions.? Good news!? We have 30 days from 6/30/2020 (for someone) to pay (at least) the 1 year renewal price of $73.98 ($37.99 per year + $35.99 reinstatement fee) to get the bsp-gmbh.com domain restored to the way it was before it went offline.? They are happy to take payment from anyone who wants to make the payment.

Just letting everyone know that this is an option.? "Jenny" emailed me her direct Network Solutions contact information, as the length of time it took on hold to speak to an agent was quite long (about 20 minutes).

Let me know if anyone has any interest in this option.

ScottC



Re: Naive PL/1 F question.

 

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Giuseppe Vitillaro wrote:

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Peter Jansen via groups.io wrote:

Isn't UNSPEC not also a pseudo-variable, so that it can also be used on the left-had
side of an assignment, e.g.:
UNSPEC ( CHR ) = CODE ;
Yep, it does.

Unfortunately, FIXED BIN(15) is half word,
i.e. two bytes in PL/1 F.

My guess

UNSPEC ( CHR ) = CODE

convert just the most significant CODE byte, leading
to a wonderful ZERO character.

If I got it right, this routine should do the trick:

ECHAR:
PROCEDURE ( CODE ) RETURNS(CHARACTER(1));
DCL CODE FIXED BIN(15);
DCL CHR CHARACTER(1);
DCL B BIT(16);
B = UNSPEC(CODE);
UNSPEC(CHR)=SUBSTR(B,9,8);
RETURN ( CHR );
END ECHAR;

Wondering if there are better ways.

Peppe.
Well, this is actually a little bit better:

ECHAR:
PROCEDURE ( CODE ) RETURNS(CHARACTER(1));
DCL CODE FIXED BIN(15);
DCL CHR CHARACTER(1);

UNSPEC(CHR)=SUBSTR(UNSPEC(CODE),9,8);
RETURN ( CHR );
END ECHAR;

I guess the UNSPEC(CHR) can't be moved inside
the RETURN statement? It doesn't work for what
I've verified.

Peppe.


Re: Naive PL/1 F question.

 

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Peter Jansen via groups.io wrote:

Isn't UNSPEC not also a pseudo-variable, so that it can also be used on the left-had
side of an assignment, e.g.:
UNSPEC ( CHR ) = CODE ;
Yep, it does.

Unfortunately, FIXED BIN(15) is half word,
i.e. two bytes in PL/1 F.

My guess

UNSPEC ( CHR ) = CODE

convert just the most significant CODE byte, leading
to a wonderful ZERO character.

If I got it right, this routine should do the trick:

ECHAR:
PROCEDURE ( CODE ) RETURNS(CHARACTER(1));
DCL CODE FIXED BIN(15);
DCL CHR CHARACTER(1);
DCL B BIT(16);
B = UNSPEC(CODE);
UNSPEC(CHR)=SUBSTR(B,9,8);
RETURN ( CHR );
END ECHAR;

Wondering if there are better ways.

Peppe.


Re: Naive PL/1 F question.

 

Isn't UNSPEC not also a pseudo-variable, so that it can also be used on the left-had side of an assignment, e.g.:

UNSPEC ( CHR ) = CODE ;

Cheers,

Peter


Naive PL/1 F question.

 

I've a naive question about the PL/1 F we
have onboard on MVS3.8j.

Forgive me, I'm trying to write code for
going from a single character to its EBCDIC
code and viceversa.

The first problem should be solved by this code
fragment:

ECODE:
PROCEDURE ( CHR ) RETURNS(FIXED BIN(15));
DCL CHR CHARACTER(1);
DCL CODE FIXED BIN(15);

CODE = UNSPEC ( CHR );
RETURN ( CODE );
END ECODE;

which seems to work correctly.

But I can't see a way for going back from the EBCDIC
code to a single character string, using only PL/1 F.

For what I can understand in modern PL/1 compilers
there are specific builtin functions implemented, but,
reading the original IBM manuals, I can't see any simple
way to solve the problem.

Any advice?

Peppe.


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

On 7/6/20 6:13 PM, Doug Wegscheid wrote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 06:44 PM, Jim Morrison wrote:
Also, I recently uploaded Volker's cookbook zip over on the
turnkey-mvs forum in the FILES area for those interested. CBT still
has the original Volker CD with TK3 and the original JCL in it. Info
in the TK3 Archive (or some name like that) over there.
Jim, what was the filename? I'm not having any luck finding it.
_._,_._,_


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Scott,

Send me the info directly?to my email.

Joe

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:17 PM ScottC via <sccosel=[email protected]> wrote:
Just got off the phone with "Jenny Angell" at Network Solutions.? Good news!? We have 30 days from 6/30/2020 (for someone) to pay (at least) the 1 year renewal price of $73.98 ($37.99 per year + $35.99 reinstatement fee) to get the domain restored to the way it was before it went offline.? They are happy to take payment from anyone who wants to make the payment.

Just letting everyone know that this is an option.? "Jenny" emailed me her direct Network Solutions contact information, as the length of time it took on hold to speak to an agent was quite long (about 20 minutes).?

Let me know if anyone has any interest in this option.

ScottC


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

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On 7/6/20 4:10 PM, Doug Wegscheid wrote:
well, hopefully the server is still up, and another snarf can be done, if we only knew the IP....


-- 
Drew Derbyshire

"A little voice inside my head said don't look back,
 You can never look back . . ."                 -- Don Henley


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Locations to download the TK3 CD image:

Original location posted on Volker's site:?

ftp://www.cbttape.org/pub/cdimages/MVS_Turnkey_Volker_V3.zip

ScottC

Refs:


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Just got off the phone with "Jenny Angell" at Network Solutions.? Good news!? We have 30 days from 6/30/2020 (for someone) to pay (at least) the 1 year renewal price of $73.98 ($37.99 per year + $35.99 reinstatement fee) to get the bsp-gmbh.com domain restored to the way it was before it went offline.? They are happy to take payment from anyone who wants to make the payment.

Just letting everyone know that this is an option.? "Jenny" emailed me her direct Network Solutions contact information, as the length of time it took on hold to speak to an agent was quite long (about 20 minutes).?

Let me know if anyone has any interest in this option.

ScottC


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 06:44 PM, Jim Morrison wrote:
Also, I recently uploaded Volker's cookbook zip over on the turnkey-mvs forum in the FILES area for those interested. CBT still has the original Volker CD with TK3 and the original JCL in it. Info in the TK3 Archive (or some name like that) over there.
Jim, what was the filename? I'm not having any luck finding it.


Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

well, hopefully the server is still up, and another snarf can be done, if we only knew the IP....


On Monday, July 6, 2020, 6:44:39 PM EDT, Jim Morrison <n9gtm@...> wrote:


Attached the `tree` command output from the 2020 backup, the DIFF is
against the 2012 backup.? Not much changed.

Also, I recently uploaded Volker's cookbook zip over on the turnkey-mvs
forum in the FILES area for those interested.? CBT still has the
original Volker CD with TK3 and the original JCL in it.? Info in the TK3
Archive (or some name like that) over there.

Scott uploaded the tk3upd zip in the files area here.? Halfmeg and I are
still scoping out what's what for the remaining TK3 history, and just
how current Scott's upload is; it may be the latest & greatest but we
haven't fully checked it out yet.

Jim


On 7/6/20 4:47 PM, Patrik Schindler wrote:
> Hello Marco,
>
> Am 06.07.2020 um 22:10 schrieb marcoxa@...:
>
>> I just wanted to let you all know that the domain bsp-gmbh.com expired on June 30th.? I learned a bit of MVS from there, and it may be that the information contained therein may now be available only via the Internet Wayback Machine.
>
> Hmph, if should have done a complete wget -m of the site before. But now it's possibly too late. :-(
>
> :wq! PoC
>
> PGP-Key: DDD3 4ABF 6413 38DE -
>




Re: Domain bsp-gmbh.com expired

 

Attached the `tree` command output from the 2020 backup, the DIFF is against the 2012 backup. Not much changed.

Also, I recently uploaded Volker's cookbook zip over on the turnkey-mvs forum in the FILES area for those interested. CBT still has the original Volker CD with TK3 and the original JCL in it. Info in the TK3 Archive (or some name like that) over there.

Scott uploaded the tk3upd zip in the files area here. Halfmeg and I are still scoping out what's what for the remaining TK3 history, and just how current Scott's upload is; it may be the latest & greatest but we haven't fully checked it out yet.

Jim

On 7/6/20 4:47 PM, Patrik Schindler wrote:
Hello Marco,
Am 06.07.2020 um 22:10 schrieb marcoxa@...:

I just wanted to let you all know that the domain bsp-gmbh.com expired on June 30th. I learned a bit of MVS from there, and it may be that the information contained therein may now be available only via the Internet Wayback Machine.
Hmph, if should have done a complete wget -m of the site before. But now it's possibly too late. :-(
:wq! PoC
PGP-Key: DDD3 4ABF 6413 38DE -


Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi

 

YES.

On 06/07/2020 18:36, Dave Trainor wrote:

So then, forgive me if this is obvious, I could take a fully generated and configured MVS system, shut it down ¨C tar up the MVS directory like I do for a backup ¨C move that tar file to a Pi ¨C extract the tar file ¨C and then boot using Hercules on the pi, and it would work the same (not discussing speed)?

If SO, that¡¯s cool.

Thanks,

Dave

*From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of Doug Wegscheid <dwegscheid@...>
*Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
*Date: *Monday, July 6, 2020 at 1:15 PM
*To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: [H390-MVS] TK4- On a Raspberry Pi

I tried it on a Pi Zero; I ended up giving up. **too** slow, couldn't tell if it was stuck or just slow.

The slow part was getting the SMP volumes built. I think if you followed Jay's instructions to the point where you had your starter system and SMP volumes built, you could move over to a Pi and be ok (and once you have those, you never need to build them again)...

You may have a fighting chance on a Pi 3 or 4.

One thing that was killing me was that I had compressed DASD, which was ****really**** slow on a Pi Zero when doing a lot of writes.