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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 06:12:11 -0500, "Joe Monk" <joemonk64@...>
wrote: PIP was CP/M.It was present in various DEC OS. I remember using it on a DOS/BATCH pdp11/40 system at university. I think that RSX-11 had it as well.
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
Based on my sales of CPM and MPM in the 70's and 80's I would say not as I remember selling well in excess of 10,000 CPM/MPM licenses to PC manufacturers through out Europe alone.
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All this when running MPI [ MicroComputer Products International ] the European distributor for DR and many other vendors including Microsoft. I still have the exact licensing records some where on my system during the periods 1976 -- 1986 as these where used to work out what payments went to each software? vendor and the software was issued in over 200 different floppy formats - no such thing as a standard despite use trying to. The Japanese liked to do things their own way ! WE had to design and construct a very hybride computer system that had four different sets of twin floppy drives to cater for them all running under a heavily changed CPM and MSDos codebase and yes we had the source for each of these. At any one point we had in the test or production areas over 40 different micro computer based systems from a wide range of companies including IBM, DEC, Burrughs, ICL Torch to name but a few. Vince On 28/06/2020 09:37, Dave Wade wrote:
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育Mark, I wonder if there were more DEC systems with PIP than CPM systems. That is computers delivered. Dave ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Waterbury
Sent: 28 June 2020 00:33 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] MOTD. (Message of the day) ? Joe, |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育On 6/27/20 6:42 PM, Doug Wegscheid
wrote:
I just sent a note about to get the cat to give you personal
space.? The Mist of Doom works, trust me.? :-) As for the rest, the Kenmore Secret Lab (AKA the Kitten Farm
West) has cats with weekly photo shoots (follow me on FB),
Computer Literate Bears, and an Ether Bunny.? We've got 30 years
of back story, explaining would not fit in an email.? -ahd- --
Drew Derbyshire
"We will create new Hiroshimas and Nagasakis. I will not hesitate to
use nuclear weapons . . . You will get your own Chernobyl in Germany."
-- Vladimir Zhirinovsky
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
Hello!
Suffice to say they are smarter than we are. And are we running MVS as a guest of VM out there? I certainly hope so. As for the rest? It depends. Incidentally they own the world, and allow the elephants to make use of it. Now one of my group is insisting that we return to topic. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@... "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:43 PM Doug Wegscheid <dwegscheid@...> wrote: And this space was sold and bought by Lando Calrissian twice. In one day. |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育On 6/27/20 6:24 PM, Doug Wegscheid
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"cat speech"? "I wanna introduce you to a personal friend of mine. This is 24
ounce Mist of Doom.? Has both stream mode for distance and spray
mode for that close up blunderbuss effect." With a little conditioning, when it appears a feline overlord
takes one look and departs without you having to touch the
trigger.? This house has 10 of them, including one within reach as
I type. -ahd- p.s. I should point this conversation has not just over gone over the edge, after the usual 3 second delay we've made a dust cloud on the canyon floor.? My Hercules host machine, a Raspberry Pi 4, is in fact named wile-e-coyote. -- Drew Derbyshire "Why is it that every time someone goes off on a suicide mission, they take *my* ship?" -- Beka Valentine (Andromeda) |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
well, heck, cats have an attitude about everything! I am not as in tune to my overlords as you seem to be. Can you elaborate as to how my master would prefer VM to MVS? (Take your time, I'm sure I'll enjoy it). ...and a hint as to the ideal CID (cat interface device) would be helpful, so as to get his claws out of my leg...
On Saturday, June 27, 2020, 9:33:52 PM EDT, Drew Derbyshire <swhobbit@...> wrote:
On 6/27/20 6:26 PM, Doug Wegscheid
wrote:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 07:55 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote: This is MVS mailing list, not VM.? Cats would not be caught dead using MVS.oh, *please* explain... One word: Cattitude --
Drew Derbyshire
"Concrete Shoes, Cyanide, TNT! | Contracts, neck ties, HIGH VOLTAGE!
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap | Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap . . ."
-- AC/DC
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育On 6/27/20 6:26 PM, Doug Wegscheid
wrote:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 07:55 PM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:One word: Cattitude --
Drew Derbyshire
"Concrete Shoes, Cyanide, TNT! | Contracts, neck ties, HIGH VOLTAGE!
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap | Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap . . ."
-- AC/DC
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JRP working?
Anyone actually have JRP printing files?? I've got the class (A) and routing (RMT1) matching, and I changed the printer devices in the JRP configuration from LCLC0x to CUUC0x (to match VTAM says the devices are).
The printer does NOT appear bound to VTAM (which I suppose depends on when it connects to it). I'm running out of ideas. Suggestions? -ahd- p.s.? I have many IBM mainframe talents, but VTAM isn't one of them ... -- Drew Derbyshire "Sometimes I'm so sweet even I can't stand it." -- Dame Julie Andrews |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
On 6/27/20 3:27 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
If you wait a week I can even present it in basic Cat speech as well.This is MVS mailing list, not VM.? Cats would not be caught dead using MVS. (May be that's why my status is still probationary after 16 years of being a cat valet -- I know OS too well.) -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire Assistant Cat Valet (Probationary) "Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian, and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss, the police German, and it's all organized by the Italians." -- Elaine Kirchner |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
Hello!
I agree with everything so far, but that especially. But, ah, you want that in basic American, Yiddish or in Klingonese? If you wait a week I can even present it in basic Cat speech as well. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@... "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 1:13 AM Theodore M Rolle Jr <stercor@...> wrote: And all of this belongs to the Republic, and the Alliance to Restore it. Plus an extra effort for the Wookiees. |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
Hey, no one is arguing.... That's a good thread in this day and age....
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育On 6/27/20 12:02 PM, Dave Trainor
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Is there any other kind on this list? :-) -- Drew Derbyshire Who me? I just wander from room to room. |
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育I really had no intention of creating a huge thread about this….? Sorry. ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Drew Derbyshire <swhobbit@...> ? On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:33 AM Dave Trainor <dave@...> wrote:
"No, no, NO! This is UNIX, you take the vowels out."? -- Drew Derbyshire ? "Sad, really, isn't it?? People spend all their time making nice things and other people come along and break them." ?????????????????????????? -- Dr. Who?, "The Enemy of the World:3"
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:33 AM Dave Trainor <dave@...> wrote:I remember using PIP. (PeriphericalIntechangeProgram) rather then IEBGENNER to move files around, but it’s the same logic. Different companies had to have their own terms, just to make it harder on us to move platforms.? ? Oh wait - they still do that...? ?LS / DIR etc etc etc"No, no, NO! This is UNIX, you take the vowels out."? --
Drew Derbyshire
"Sad, really, isn't it? People spend all their time making nice things
and other people come along and break them."
-- Dr. Who?, "The Enemy of the World:3"
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
Sorry for the miscommunication. Joe On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
开云体育Joe, OK but to me that’s not what you wrote. To me “PIP is CPM” implies exclusivity. Dave ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Monk
Sent: 27 June 2020 15:56 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] MOTD. (Message of the day) ? Oh I dont?doubt that. I was just mentioning it was in CP/M. ? Joe ? On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:42 AM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
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