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SORT, REGION and MAIN
How do the values of REGION JCL paramater and the SORT parameter MAIN relate to one another. I suspect that REGION might need to be a bit larger than MAIN, but I cannot find any specific
By Daniel L. Srebnick · #4874 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
http://www.legac-e.co.uk/JCLdocs/CAP3390.pdf is a 3390 no key capacity table. Goes all the way down to 22 byte records. gmx.com@groups.io> wrote:
By Mike Schwab · #4873 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Sergio, thank you for your curiosity, and for bringing this question up here. Here is a link to the book you asked
By Andre · #4872 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Thank you all :) Since it was mentioned before, I knew that gaps had something to do, but I didn’t thought that all that “wasted” space was only because of gaps. And also, I didn’t know how
By Sergio · #4871 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Gentlemen, Thank you for your contributions, it looks like we finally found real answer. I have found the last peace of it: In this text we see that there is four gaps that accompany each member in
By Andre · #4870 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Andre's response containing a hex editor's output was to your, Sergio's, question regarding space usage with a PDS. I have read with interest the various responses with regard to actual hardware
By Harold Grovesteen · #4869 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Dear all, With a standard R0 on a track there remains 1729 user data cells on a 3390 track. Number of cells needed is C + K + D Where C = 10 K = 0 (if no key written) DN = (DL + 6) / 232 D = 9 +
By Silvio Losa · #4868 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Per IBM, the most efficient block size for a 3390 is 27,998 bytes, which allows two per track: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=devices-direct-access-storage That is less than 28,320
By Frank D. Engel, Jr. · #4867 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
You can't have block that big. You write two blocks with two sets of interecord gap. And that table already assumes key length of 0. There is a second table for key length
By Mike Schwab · #4866 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
"The table you attached proves that you will only get 1 block per track at a block size of 28320. " There's no Keys, so the K field is omitted. C = 5 bytes. D = 28320 bytes. Looks to me like 2 of
By Joe Monk · #4865 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
The table you attached proves that you will only get 1 block per track at a block size of 28320.? It’s easy enough test before you post maybe?you should do that.
By laddiehanus · #4864 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Everyone, Also, please remember that the CKD format on 3390 DASD is emulated. The actual format of the DASD is in cells, so there is some wastage trying to make the CKD format work, with there being
By Joe Monk · #4863 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
If, in the above picture, the white space is supposed to represent that part of the track that cannot be used to hold any accessible "thing" then the above picture is not accurate. The white space
By Greg Price · #4862 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Andre, Despite what you may think, there are gaps everywhere on the DASD surface.? I dont know what hex dump you are looking at, but it isn't going to show the gaps.? If you are looking at a hex
By Bob Polmanter · #4861 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
The first track would contain the Directory block, the EOF Directory block, and the rest with PDS data blocks. <procritic@...> wrote:
By Mike Schwab · #4860 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Well OK, then please provide your calculations concerning this problem. Why there is free space at the end of PDS dataset that takes more than 2480 bytes? You have said: " A pds has 256 byte blocks
By Andre · #4859 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Hello James, It is not a hardware limitation, because when we allocate sequential dataset it uses all space, but only in case of PDS we see that a lot of space left unused. Try it yourself, allocate
By Andre · #4858 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
I have mislead no one. I have been working with this since 1982. There is overhead that can’t be seen with the tools that are publicly available. Laddie Hanus
By laddiehanus · #4857 ·
Re: Understanding PDS in MVS 3.8
Have you performed the calculation at http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/dasd/3390/GX26-4577-0_3390_Reference_Summary_Jun8 9.pdf page 10 - Determining tack capacity James Campbell
By jacampbellaus@... · #4856 ·
Re: CLIST and TEST subcommands
Roops, You can try using the Acetest application that comes with ISPF. It is documented in the ISPF .DOC file. It is just so much better than TSO Test - especially when using it in fullscreen mode
By Wally Mclaughlin · #4855 ·