On 6/25/20 2:40 PM, Doug Wegscheid
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 02:08 PM, Jay Moseley wrote:
It sounds like you prefer the Dynamic Proclib
approach, so that is probably what you should use and integrate
the load modules, procedures and library PDSes into your system
using the method you prefer. I have tried Brian Westerman's
Dynamic Proclib and didn't particularly care for it, although it
is included on another page at my site and I heartily recommend
it to anyone for whom that approach appeals to them and works
for them. I have also backfitted a Usermod to allow SYSC.LINKLIB
to be concatenated into the Link List, and it works great for me
on my system.
Jay, what didn't you like about the dynamic proclib? (I'm not
trying to spark an argument; your experience enables you to see
something there that I don't, so I want to understand what I am
not seeing)...
Also, is the usermod you backfitted available? I'm interested in
looking at it and seeing what I can learn.
At the present time if I were updating the SYSCPK page
I would probably simply remove the integration
instructions/program and leave it to each individual to
integrate it as they see fit.
I would respectfully ask that you not remove those. Yes,
probably the majority of the consumers of SYSCPK are MVS
professionals, and they know how to do what needs doing. But...
Some of us are neophytes; we know how to administer systems,
just that MVS is not one of them (I was hell on wheels with
RSX-11M, VMS, BSD, and Linux, but not so much MVS), and your
instructions were the only thing that enabled me to get the
SYSCPK going. There was *no* way I was going to know how to
connect the catalogs or get JES2 to pay attention to
SYSC.PROCLIB without those instructions... and now I have a
template to work from when I am doing similar stuff, and most
importantly, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE PIECES FIT TOGETHER, HOW THEY
BREAK, HOW TO FIX THEM.
Yes, I also stubbed my toe because the JES2 setup on my system
was different than your instructions were written for, but now I
understand how JES2 is started, where it gets it's parameters
from, how to add proclibs to it, what COMMNDxx is for, and how
to use ZZSA... and in the process of reading the manuals to
learn some of that, I learned a lot more!
You providing explicit instructions WITH EXPLANATIONS has
helped me a great deal.
_.
Jay,
If your choices are listen to Doug and ignore me, or pay
attention to me and purge stuff ... Listen to Doug.
-ahd-
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