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last time I used Music/SP in 2009, I don't remeber if was under Sim-390 or Hercules-390. I made an export of ALL directories files in musicx volume to windows.

It's very handy not only for backup, but for searching information. This export has all directores from $000 to? $xxx including all user local storage.

Thing is I don't remember which software I used to do that, a detail is that all the files have a windows timestamp slightly different each file.

I'm sure it was no FTP client, because this only allows to see the files directly owned by the logged user.

Does anyone remember which software can do this job ?

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Carlos

Argentina

For archiving reason, it's very easy to find in windows environment a keyword, in thousands of files with programs like total commander, being a filename or just a token of text. Vm 370 is 50 years behind of that. If I need to learn about for instance mfarch just look for this word, and I find all the scripts and manuals than reference it. It's the way I ussualy work in engineering projects, and windows or Unix environments. I still remember skimming trough this 1000 pages manuals on a set of 6 manual for vm cms. Today if I need to work for instance with some obscure feature of a real time operating system, I look for what I need in internet, then I can search trough manuals, code examples and user comments in a short time.?
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Carlos

Argentina

other reason to have ascii files In my pc, is that I can make my own manuals, mixing VM, Music and my own code This can be nicely formatted, with index, saved to pdf or to Epub format or printed as a reference manual. Text manuals in Music are formatted for a screen, smaller than an A4 paper sheet and with typo to small for my eyes ;)

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Carlos

Argentina

this mornig I found what may be the simplest answer: Using FTP.

You connect to Music FTP server as superuser $000, which puts you in your home directory. in this case /$000: and allows you to transfer all it's files.
How you do the trick ?

Simply typing in your ftp client the directory you want to transfer: for instance? cd /$adm: and voilá you are now in this directory and can transfer files from it.

Probably meedling with ftp server configuration you can go to the root dir musicx:/: and see all the directories, but it's not my purpouse to be "super super user", but to? easily backup user's source files to the pc, linux, etc.

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Carlos

Argentina

This trick, was thought to me by some canadian guys in Calgary, We backuped not only to Tapes or Magneto Optical drives, bt to laptops. We used to develop SCADA systems using Unix ( IBM, ALPHA, SUN ), and we used extensively Telnet do remote control and FTP for file transfer.

This systems may have a couple of realtime servers, other 2 historical database servers and an engineering station, all of them UNIX, but we started using cheaper laptop PCs for the administration and engineering. funny thing is I started used ortodox file managers in CMS, then used them in DOS, QNX, Windows, I love the modern ones like Total Commander that can do FTP, edit even connect themselves to cloud storage. We ussually added SAMBA for direct connexction to the servers, and any kind of printer bridge, to print unix reports in regular windows printers.

We also made all user's directories backup, and zip, so you can find with total commander any filename or content, in directories or zipped files, at different checkpoints, and compare 2 files contents. For me is easier to use and less error prone, than versioning systems, specially whan you have engineering projects, comprising drawings, documents, email, firmware, even accounting spreadsheets, all in the same project directory

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Carlos

Argentina