开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 开云体育

A few questions about maintenance.


 

On saturday doing some FTP transfers being $000, I crashed MUSICX filesystem running in H-390.

So I learned the lesson and created an user account to do my work.?

Ussualy I prefer the H-390 option, since I can easily communicate with the "mainframe" by using FTP, so it's very easy to backup my files

I have a musicx disk backup with all the directories in windows format, so it's straighforward to search for something.

I know you can restore and backup with Filearc and Filerest, but a few questions arise.

a) How can I acces system, or other user's? directories like $000, $adm, etc,? for use them in? ?

b) Is there any means to check and repair a filesystem which went wrong?
c) Can I define a dummy tape unit for use with Music, or have to "punch" the data ?

d) last but no least, how can an administrator, blank an user password ?

Thanks for your help

?

?
--

Carlos

Argentina


 


On saturday doing some FTP transfers being $000, I crashed MUSICX
filesystem running in H-390.
What do you mean by "crashed MUSICX filesystem" and what do you mean
by H-390?


So I learned the lesson and created an user account to do my work.
Ok.


Ussualy I prefer the H-390 option, since I can easily communicate with
the "mainframe" by using FTP, so it's very easy to backup my files
I don't understand what you mean by H-390.


I have a musicx disk backup with all the directories in windows format,
so it's straighforward to search for something.
The MUSICX disk is an OS (ie MVS etc) format volume. Some of the files
on this volume (SYS1.MUSIC.UIDX, SYS1.MUSIC.UL01, SYS1.MUSIC.UL02 etc)
make up the "save library" which contains the files visible to LIBRARY,
DIRECTORY, FLIB, EDIT etc commands when we log in to MUSIC/SP
interactively. Other files on MUSICX such as SYS1.MUSIC.NUCLEUS for
example exist for other purposes and have nothing to do with save
library files.

Maybe you mean you have a backup of the save library files in windows
format?


I know you can restore and backup with Filearc and Filerest, but a few
questions arise.
One way to make a backup is to shut down MUSIC/SP and copy the entire
MUSICX disk using tools in the host operating system (Windows, Linux etc).
It is not easy to restore individual MUSIC/SP files from this kind of
backup though. You have to restore the entire disk in one go.


a) How can I acces system, or other user's? directories like $000, $adm,
etc,? for use them in? ?
I'm not sure what you mean here. You can do "CD $ADM:" for example,
assuming you are logged on to a suitably privileged userid like $000.



b) Is there any means to check and repair a filesystem which went wrong?
LIBINTEG can be used to check the integrity of the save library filesystem.
See MANX AR LIBINTEG for more details.


c) Can I define a dummy tape unit for use with Music, or have to
"punch" the data ?
What do you mean by a dummy tape unit?


d) last but no least, how can an administrator, blank an user password ?
CODUPD CHANGE <user> PW() BPW()

You may have to do "VIP ON" before this in some cases.


Thanks for your help
You're welcome.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

--

Carlos

Argentina


 

Peter, thanks for the answer.

?

Sorry, my mistake, I meant SIM-390 instead of H-390.

I'll try your suggestions.

I was trying to backup my work files kept in an user directory (for instance /carlos/PLI/test1) I copy them with ftp, zip them and file them in the windows environment. Even for simplicity I edit in the windows host with an editor with ftp capabilities and store them in the "mainframe".

About the tape I'm not so sure, since the last time I used a tape, was under CMS, where I created a dump file, in tape format in my minidisk, and send this file to the operator to be processed, or put in a real tape. As I have read you can "punch" your backup into some virtual environment like AWS,XMI.

Sorry if my questions sound naive, by the last time I use a real s/370 was 1985, so my memory is lost, the manual's long time gone, even the IBM head office and it's servers in Buenos moved long time ago, so I need to relearn this stuff.
--

?

BTW, there's a railway station and a neighbourhood in Buenos Aires, named Coghlan, after the irish railway engineer John Coghlan?

Carlos

Argentina


 

Hello Carlos,

I can't say for sure, but if I am not mistaken, Sim390 does not support punch and tapes. However Hercules does. :-)

I checked and it is fairly easy to archive all the files of an account on a tape with MUSIC running under Hercules. Still, given your last message, I am not sure that is what you want to do.

Finally, you can submit a job from the card reader with Sim390, there is a "Reader file..." option in the File menu for that.

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal


 

Hi Carlos,


Peter, thanks for the answer.
You are very welcome.


Sorry, my mistake, I meant SIM-390 instead of H-390.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experience of running MUSIC on SIM-390.


I'll try your suggestions.

I was trying to backup my work files kept in an user directory (for
instance /carlos/PLI/test1) I copy them with ftp, zip them and file
them in the windows environment. Even for simplicity I edit in the
windows host with an editor with ftp capabilities and store them in the
"mainframe".
The MUSIC editor is very easy to use too but you don't automatically
end up with a backup when you use it.


About the tape I'm not so sure, since the last time I used a tape, was
under CMS, where I created a dump file, in tape format in my minidisk,
and send this file to the operator to be processed, or put in a real tape.
As I have read you can "punch" your backup into some virtual environment
like AWS,XMI.
I don't really understand this part.

It is possible to use AWS tapes with MUSIC running on Hercules but I don't
know whether this is possible when running on SIM-390.


Sorry if my questions sound naive, by the last time I use a real s/370 was
1985, so my memory is lost, the manual's long time gone, even the IBM
head office and it's servers in Buenos moved long time ago, so I need to
relearn this stuff.
Don't worry. The last time I used a real s/370 was around 1994. Then I
discovered Hercules around 2003/2004 I think.

--

BTW, there's a railway station and a neighbourhood in Buenos Aires, named
Coghlan, after the irish railway engineer John Coghlan
,_Buenos_Aires
That is very interesting. Thank you. I did not know about this man.
As far as I know, my family were all farmers in 1824 when he was born.
My great great grandfather was born around 1834 in the next county to him.
I must have a connection to his family further back somewhere but there
are few records going that far back in Ireland unfortunately. I didn't
know there were any engineers in my family until my granduncle Jim Coghlan
who was born nearly a hundred years after John Coghlan.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


Carlos

Argentina