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Other than the on-line help, I have not been able to find any documentation
on watc full screen support.? I trying to write a few test programs, but
without some additional documentation, it is very slow going.

Any ideas on where I may "documentation" on Watc.? I do have the various
files by Dave Edwards, but no real watc manual.

Thank You
Tom c

Besides the manuals,? in Dave Edwards site, ther?s also an embedded help for wat C, simply write

HELP Watc and you? get this screen:

?

?Help? ?End? ? Up? ? ?Down? ?Top? ? Bottom Main? ?Scan? ?Find? ?Topic? Quit

?------------- HELP: Waterloo C Compiler and Library (WATC) ---------- Page 1/1

?Command ===>

? DATE: 24Dec20 09:16:46? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? UPDATE: 23Nov05 00:00

?Select htt? 1? Overview

? ? ? ? ? ? ?2? Conditions of Use

? ? ? ? ? ? ?3? Usage and control statements; compiler options

? ? ? ? ? ? ?4? Waterloo C library functions and #include header files (CHELP)

? ? ? ? ? ? ?5? A small sample program: $wcc:watc.test

? ? ? ? ? ? ?6? Execution using a load module (/inc xmwatc)

? ? ? ? ? ? ?7? Library functions specific to the MUSIC/SP operating system

? ? ? ? ? ? ?8? Run-time stack size

? ? ? ? ? ? ?9? Features not supported under MUSIC/SP; compatibility issues

? ? ? ? ? ? 10? MUSIC/SP file access using fopen()

? ? ? ? ? ? 11? Command-line arguments

? ? ? ? ? ? 12? Calling assembler or Fortran routines from WatC

? ? ? ? ? ? 13? Calling WatC functions from assembler or Fortran

? ? ? ? ? ? 14? WatC function linkage conventions

? ? ? ? ? ? 15? Waterloo C sockets for TCP/IP

?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? This file:? $hlp:@go.watc? - Last updated Nov 22, 2005

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Web version: http://musicm.mcgill.ca/sim390/http/watc_help.htm

?

?F1=Help? F2=Ask F3=End F7=Up F8=Dn? F9=Find? F10=Top? F11=Bot F12=Ret PA1=Quit

?

Last but not least, this help is in the file $hlp:@go.watc.

?

There's three C compilers in Music/SP C370,Watcom C and GCC.

You get help on them by typing Help C.

?

Best regards.
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Carlos

Argentina

Tom,

There is also

Chris
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:35:44 -0600
"Tom Chandler" <tchandler48@...> wrote:

I am trying to learn/compile/test "C" programs using the watc compiler
in music/sp. I am trying to find documentation/manuals on this software
but without much luck. Any pointers in any direction would be appreciated.

Thank You
Tom c

Tom,

Is of any use?

Chris
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:35:44 -0600
"Tom Chandler" <tchandler48@...> wrote:

I am trying to learn/compile/test "C" programs using the watc compiler
in music/sp. I am trying to find documentation/manuals on this software
but without much luck. Any pointers in any direction would be appreciated.

Thank You
Tom c

the last (incomplete) version can be got here.?https://geronimo370.nl/vm6pext/music-sp-6-2/

They have all the service pack installed. plus vsam, c, pli(f), fortran IV, scientific pakcage..

You can run them standalone in Sim390, hercules as a standalone? or as a virtual machine in vm.

?

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Carlos

Argentina

My understanding was McGill would not release the full set of files. Dave Edwards had to drop a lot of the files out of his distro so McGill would allow to release a 'demo'.

I'm not sure what would happen IF someone still had a set of tapes somewhere and transferred that to a new medium.

I asked my place of employment where we ran music if they had any tapes at all. We had quite a bit of administrative office programming and a few system source file mods. I'd have loved to have the full source to put our mods back in, the source for what we wrote as admin apps, and obfuscate the data to have as a display of what we had in those days.

My source changes involved using an internal chat queue that would send a 'command' from one program to another, then 'auto-switch' sessions to the 'other' program. So for example, a person could be looking at a prospect's data, hit a function key. If the app data program wasn't running, start it. If it was then send the name to look up in the applicant program, and switch sessions to the applicant program.

Another thing I wrote was a special log in stack that accepted creds from a vb program. It then would accept commands from the vb gui and do interactive degree audits. Show a student or advisor, for a given major, what courses were needed, what were optional, when they were going to be taught again, and check the requirements for that major that were completed.

I wanted to have an auto-enrollment feature, but the registrar told me no. Said he had to keep his job security ;)

But, yeah...having all that resurrected as a historical record of the times would have been great...no luck though. No tapes remained...

Has anyone been able to locate the "full" MUSIC distribution files which
include the programming languages etc.?

I haven't seen one since I had it on real hardware in the 1990s.

I believe there may have been problems distributing most of the langauges on
the demo system because they were produced by IBM, not by McGill.

Are there any contacts from McGill University or other sites, that are
still able to assist?

Dave Edwards from McGill used to engage a lot with the community but he
died sevaral years ago and there has been very little activity since.
There was a statement of intent made to continue developing the demo
system in Dave's absence but nothing much came of it unfortunately.

I have tried to keep in touch with one or two of the ex-McGill people
but I haven't been able to make contact with anyone in years now.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Has anyone been able to locate the "full" MUSIC distribution files which include the programming languages etc.?

Are there any contacts from McGill University or other sites, that are still able to assist?

Cordially

Patrick

Jerome,

If it is of any interest to you, I know of two systems running on Hercules that have APL:

MVT:?
MTS:?

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

Patrick,

You are right, the documentation talks about two APL : VSAPL and ?an implementation of the IBM APL S/360 Type III program?. As far as I can see, none are available on MUSIC/SP 6.2 Demo.

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

From my reading of the MUSIC documentation, there were TWO versions of APL - one was specific to Music/SP, the other was VS-APL from IBM.

The APL version from IBM was considered better or more complete; at least that is what I think was implied.

I might have read this in the online help files? Or am I mistaken?

Cordially

Patrick

After reading about MUSIC/SP I found out that it had an APL interpreter/compiler; but I couldn't find much information about its implementation, i.e. which subset of features are supported, etc other than it seems to be based on VS APL ( )
Does anyone has more information, and/or could help me get MUSIC/SP running on linux, with networking, does VS APL or MUSIC/SP require a license?
Thank you for reading.

Thanks a lot, René!
I remember that you sent me this link in an email that I seemingly lost.
Greetings
Markus Loew

Hello Markus,

You can try this link: ?

Dave Edwards system, and its updates are available here:??

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

I lost the MUSIC-SP download link. It is the one where I find PL/I(F) preinstalled, I think with the VSAM access and samples as well. Help me, please!
Markus Loew