I see no messages posted in this list.听听 What's going on?

I created the group to ensure continuity, but the old Yahoo MUSIC group wasn't very active anyway.

You are welcome to contribute. :-)

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

When you say "extra material", what do you have in mind?

Rene FERLAND, Montreal听

Books or manuals would be great.听

kind Regards Clive Hudson

Clive,

I am sorry to insist but the available documentation comprises: a guide for new users, a complete user reference, an administrator guide, a complete administration reference, and a few more manuals. What else would you like?

Best regards,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

Thanks Joe

I already have music/sp up and running. I鈥檝e also looked carefully at the manuals. I was just wondering if there was extra material out there

Kind Regards

Clive Hudson Auckland听

听

Rene

Programming Manuals would be nice. 听The existing documentation is good, I was just wondering if there was anything else. By the way your Videos on moshix channel are really good. Feel free to do more Music/sp. I feel that this is an interesting operating system.听

kind Regards Clive Hudson

ps Are the existing instructions for Hercules usage with music/sp still relevant ?

The Hercules instructions are outdated since it goes back to the time cygwin was needed for it. The original text still contains a lot of useful information. I know how to go through it,听 ignoring the obsolete stuff but a听"refresher" could be useful.

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

Mark,

I'm here.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:31:49PM -0700, Mark Waterbury wrote:

I see no messages posted in this list.

I see 795 messages from this list, but I have my local archive from the old
Yahoo list going back to 2004.

What's going on?

Not much. I can't remember how long it's been since I tried doing anything
with Music. Actually I haven't done much with any OSes under Hercules
lately. Most recently I've been exploring NOS under the DtCYBER emulator,
and before that Multics under the DPS8/M SIMH emulator and PRIMOS under the
Prime emulator. So many emulators and OSes, so little time. :-)



--

Kevin



Bruceville, TX

What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.

Rene

Programming Manuals would be nice. 听The existing documentation is good,
I was just wondering if there was anything else. By the way your Videos
on moshix channel are really good. Feel free to do more Music/sp. I feel
that this is an interesting operating system.

The programming facilities available on MUSIC/SP are/were mostly available
on MVS and VM/CMS as well. Manuals for Assembler F, Fortran G, REXX etc
on other platforms would be applicable to MUSIC/SP too. There may be some
MUSIC specific details for these langauges in the online help on MUSIC,
especially REXX as the I/O is different on MUSIC to the other platforms.

kind Regards Clive Hudson

ps Are the existing instructions for Hercules usage with music/sp still
relevant ?

Depends on what instructions you are looking at. I doubt there have been
any changes to "production" Hercules 3.x that would affect using MUSIC/SP.


I have patches for Hercules that enable the MUSIC/SP TCP/IP networking to
(mostly) work when running under Hercules. You need to be able to build
Hercules from source to use this, probably on Linux or some Unix variant.



Regards,
Peter Coghlan

There is an experimental set of patches adding VM IUCV and VM TCPIP to Hercules 3.x:



I'm using it for running MUSIC/SP with TCP/IP on Linux and MacOSX.

Best Regards,

-Joachim.

Does any one know how to听concatenate text files in music/sp听

regards Clive

Does any one know how to听concatenate text files in music/sp

The MERGE command in the editor can be used to do this.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Thank you Peter

Very kind of you to reply. I was aware of the merge command in the editor. I was just hoping there was a simple command line option. Just seems strange a reasonably complicated and powerful operating system doesn鈥檛 have a command line option.听

regards Clive听

Hi everyone !

With this covid bussiness, I'm stucked at home under querantine, so I'm bac with Music/SP environment.听

I was member od the original MUSIC/SP on yahoo, and mr Ren茅 Ferland invited me to this group.

Being back to the basic, I jave 2 systems up and running, version 6.2 (B), one on SIM390 version 17 and the other on Hercules, 64 bit.

I also ran mr. Ferland's more complete system,. wit no problem.

For a starting practice I decided to apply the updates mr. Dave Edwards left, so I downloaded the updates from internet, checked the MD signatures and FTPe'd to the virtual machine disk, wit no problem.

Thing is than I'm trying to apply the first patch UPD1, and I'm getting some errors

听

First I ran the mfarc file with error "045 file not found"

Then I tryed,uUsing this script
听
/FILE 1 N(UPD1.MFARC)

/INC *COM:MFREST

IN=1,ALL=T,REPL=F,FIXUP=' ',LIST=T,SETUI=T

听I Get the following error:听

-- FILE RESTORE (MFREST) --

OPTIONS IN EFFECT:

听 听INPUT =听 1听 听 TAPFIL =听 1听 听 FIXUP=' '听 CTLREC=T

听 听ALL=T听 RLSE=F听 REPL=F听 LIST=T听 SETUI=T听 SETBUP=F听 FIXUCR=F听 REPNWR=T

(CRDIN ROUTINE) READ ERROR 045 ON UNIT 001.听 JOB TERMINATED.

Some similar whan trying to list the content of the mfarc:

/file 1 n($000:upd1.mfarc)

/inc *com:mfchek

units=1,names=t,info=f

听

CHECKING FILE SYSTEM ARCHIVE

听 UNITS= 1, 0听 听 听 听 TAPFIL=听 听1听 听 NFILES=听 听1

(CRDIN ROUTINE) READ ERROR 045 ON UNIT 001.听 JOB TERMINATED.

听

Clearly it does not find the tape unit.

Any suggestion ?

听

(ps, I also tryed on Hercules using a copy od the disk, wit the update files in, with similar results )

Carlos,

You have to be careful when you transfer the MFARC:

ftp
open localhost 621
type binary
quote allo 4000000
quote recfm fc
quote lrecl 80
put upd1.mfarc
bye

Check the Info file at the top of the update page:听

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

(CRDIN ROUTINE) READ ERROR 045 ON UNIT 001.� JOB TERMINATED.

In addition to Rene's excellent advice which I'm sure will sort out the
problem, when confronted with a MUSIC error number, I suggest:

HELP ERRORS 3

which should give some meaningful text which may help explain the error.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

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