I feel happy, applied updates 1 to 4, installed Wat C, Pl/I, Fortran and Asembler. Also could run OK, some programs I had in my files, from a few years ago.

Now I need to re-study Music's JCL, Rexx, and how to use a second disk I have formatted and mounted, with no data on it.

听

It was a productive day
--

Carlos

Argentina

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the log looks like this:

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Microsoft Windows [Versi贸n 10.0.19041.329]

(c) 2020 Microsoft Corporation. Todos los derechos reservados.

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j:\MusicB\Updates\gccmu11>m_send gccmu11.mfarc

ftp>听 Open localhost 621

Conectado a CARLOS-PC-I5.

220 UNIX dir list format - MUSIC / SP FTP Server - Ready

530 Not logged in

Usuario (CARLOS-PC-I5:(none)):

331 Please send password for $000. Challenge: A553A57B55ACF0B2

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230 User $000 logged in

ftp>听 cd updts

200 Command ok

ftp>听 type binary

200 Command ok

ftp>听 quote allo 4000000

200 Command ok

ftp>听 quote recfm fc

200 Command ok

ftp>听 quote lrecl 80

200 Command ok

ftp>听 hash

Impresi贸n de marcas "hash" Activo听 ftp: (2048 bytes/marca "hash") .

ftp>听 put gccmu11.mfarc

200 Command ok

150 Sending file "$000:UPDTS\GCCMU11.MFARC"

####################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################

226 Data transfer finished, data connection closed.

ftp: 1090080 bytes enviados en 0.15segundos 7267.20a KB/s.

ftp>听 bye

221 Goodbye, closing control connection

file听 sent

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j:\MusicB\Updates\gccmu11>

--

Carlos

Argentina

Hey guys !! I forgot I was talking to an old lady used to be talked in 80 column cards !!!I

I normally use total commander or other two column file manager ( BTW from the time of CMS ), and work with local and remote directories as if they were local.

In case someone may find it helpful I wrote a windows scripr to automate the transfer of binary mode files.

m:send.cmd usage m_send binary_filename:

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@echo off

@

rem M_SEND filename C.Feldman. July 9 2020听

rem sends binary filename to a music/sp HOST

rem using ftp protocol

rem check parameters

rem todo check the file exists and report error if not

IF "%~1"=="" goto noparms

if exist %1 (

rem ***ensamble the ftp dialog text***

echo听 Open localhost 621 > s.txt

echo听 $000 >> s.txt

echo听 music >> s.txt

echo听 cd updts >> s.txt

echo听 type binary >> s.txt

echo听 quote allo 4000000 >> s.txt

echo听 quote recfm fc >> s.txt

echo听 quote lrecl 80 >> s.txt

echo听 hash >> s.txt

echo听 put %1 >> s.txt

echo听 bye >> s.txt

ftp -s:s.txt

echo file % sent

rem delete s.txt

) ELSE (

echo %1 does not exist听

echo file was not sent )

goto :eof

rem ***if there's no parameter***

:noparms听

echo m_send, sends a binary filename to a music/sp HOST

echo use: m_send file

EXIT /B 1

It creates and uses s.txt, an ftp response file with the following contents:

听Open localhost 621听

听$000听

听music听

听cd updts听

听type binary听

听quote allo 4000000听

听quote recfm fc听

听quote lrecl 80听

听hash听

听put upd1.mfarc听

听bye听

--

Carlos

Argentina

Thanks for the tip. I user ( from my unix days ) Ftp from Total Commander to the Music Host, and verifyed both images were equal. I'll use yor suggestion

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Carlos

Actually I was working on 2006 version "b" from Dave Edwards, Ren茅s version work fine, but I wanted to test the update procedure

>> Did I miss something?

Not really. :-) He's talking about the system I use in a Youtube video, which is just the demo with all the updates installed.听

You can download it here:听

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

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(CRDIN ROUTINE) READ ERROR 045 ON UNIT 001.� JOB TERMINATED.

In addition to Rene's excellent advice which I'm sure will sort out the
problem, when confronted with a MUSIC error number, I suggest:

HELP ERRORS 3

which should give some meaningful text which may help explain the error.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Carlos,

You have to be careful when you transfer the MFARC:

ftp
open localhost 621
type binary
quote allo 4000000
quote recfm fc
quote lrecl 80
put upd1.mfarc
bye

Check the Info file at the top of the update page:听

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

Hi everyone !

With this covid bussiness, I'm stucked at home under querantine, so I'm bac with Music/SP environment.听

I was member od the original MUSIC/SP on yahoo, and mr Ren茅 Ferland invited me to this group.

Being back to the basic, I jave 2 systems up and running, version 6.2 (B), one on SIM390 version 17 and the other on Hercules, 64 bit.

I also ran mr. Ferland's more complete system,. wit no problem.

For a starting practice I decided to apply the updates mr. Dave Edwards left, so I downloaded the updates from internet, checked the MD signatures and FTPe'd to the virtual machine disk, wit no problem.

Thing is than I'm trying to apply the first patch UPD1, and I'm getting some errors

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First I ran the mfarc file with error "045 file not found"

Then I tryed,uUsing this script
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/FILE 1 N(UPD1.MFARC)

/INC *COM:MFREST

IN=1,ALL=T,REPL=F,FIXUP=' ',LIST=T,SETUI=T

听I Get the following error:听

-- FILE RESTORE (MFREST) --

OPTIONS IN EFFECT:

听 听INPUT =听 1听 听 TAPFIL =听 1听 听 FIXUP=' '听 CTLREC=T

听 听ALL=T听 RLSE=F听 REPL=F听 LIST=T听 SETUI=T听 SETBUP=F听 FIXUCR=F听 REPNWR=T

(CRDIN ROUTINE) READ ERROR 045 ON UNIT 001.听 JOB TERMINATED.

Some similar whan trying to list the content of the mfarc:

/file 1 n($000:upd1.mfarc)

/inc *com:mfchek

units=1,names=t,info=f

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CHECKING FILE SYSTEM ARCHIVE

听 UNITS= 1, 0听 听 听 听 TAPFIL=听 听1听 听 NFILES=听 听1

(CRDIN ROUTINE) READ ERROR 045 ON UNIT 001.听 JOB TERMINATED.

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Clearly it does not find the tape unit.

Any suggestion ?

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(ps, I also tryed on Hercules using a copy od the disk, wit the update files in, with similar results )

Thank you Peter

Very kind of you to reply. I was aware of the merge command in the editor. I was just hoping there was a simple command line option. Just seems strange a reasonably complicated and powerful operating system doesn鈥檛 have a command line option.听

regards Clive听

Does any one know how to听concatenate text files in music/sp

The MERGE command in the editor can be used to do this.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Does any one know how to听concatenate text files in music/sp听

regards Clive

There is an experimental set of patches adding VM IUCV and VM TCPIP to Hercules 3.x:



I'm using it for running MUSIC/SP with TCP/IP on Linux and MacOSX.

Best Regards,

-Joachim.

Rene

Programming Manuals would be nice. 听The existing documentation is good,
I was just wondering if there was anything else. By the way your Videos
on moshix channel are really good. Feel free to do more Music/sp. I feel
that this is an interesting operating system.

The programming facilities available on MUSIC/SP are/were mostly available
on MVS and VM/CMS as well. Manuals for Assembler F, Fortran G, REXX etc
on other platforms would be applicable to MUSIC/SP too. There may be some
MUSIC specific details for these langauges in the online help on MUSIC,
especially REXX as the I/O is different on MUSIC to the other platforms.

kind Regards Clive Hudson

ps Are the existing instructions for Hercules usage with music/sp still
relevant ?

Depends on what instructions you are looking at. I doubt there have been
any changes to "production" Hercules 3.x that would affect using MUSIC/SP.


I have patches for Hercules that enable the MUSIC/SP TCP/IP networking to
(mostly) work when running under Hercules. You need to be able to build
Hercules from source to use this, probably on Linux or some Unix variant.



Regards,
Peter Coghlan

Mark,

I'm here.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:31:49PM -0700, Mark Waterbury wrote:

I see no messages posted in this list.

I see 795 messages from this list, but I have my local archive from the old
Yahoo list going back to 2004.

What's going on?

Not much. I can't remember how long it's been since I tried doing anything
with Music. Actually I haven't done much with any OSes under Hercules
lately. Most recently I've been exploring NOS under the DtCYBER emulator,
and before that Multics under the DPS8/M SIMH emulator and PRIMOS under the
Prime emulator. So many emulators and OSes, so little time. :-)



--

Kevin



Bruceville, TX

What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.

The Hercules instructions are outdated since it goes back to the time cygwin was needed for it. The original text still contains a lot of useful information. I know how to go through it,听 ignoring the obsolete stuff but a听"refresher" could be useful.

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

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Rene

Programming Manuals would be nice. 听The existing documentation is good, I was just wondering if there was anything else. By the way your Videos on moshix channel are really good. Feel free to do more Music/sp. I feel that this is an interesting operating system.听

kind Regards Clive Hudson

ps Are the existing instructions for Hercules usage with music/sp still relevant ?