Re: Question about the availability of several things
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I think we will probably have to wait till d7.0 comes out, but it would be nice if someone could get us the Confer files to try out (I know, I keep pestering about this, but Confer is a centerpiece of MTS). I’d be willing to do the work to try to get it working.? Is Jeff Ogden on this list? I heard that he may have some idea on what would be needed to get Confer working. I’m guessing that we need all of the files on user CNFR as well as several hooks related to surcharges.? I seem to recall that, at WSU, there was some file under CCID “BILL” that contained some sort of surcharge related data.? I noticed that the BILL user was not included with d6.0, probably because it contained U of M related billing software. ? On the subject of Hercules changes,? Mike, I think you said that you still have to find out how to integrate your Hercules changes for the HIM. I’m going to upgrade to CentOS 9 from 7 because, for some reason, large data transfers hang. I’d like to upgrade Hercules at the same time. ? Thanks ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Chandler Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 13:04 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [H390-MTS] Question about the availability of several things ? I would very interested, if possible. ? On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:15?AM John Palmer <jpalmer@...> wrote: If you guys want anyone to test Confer out on 6.0, I can do so if someone can copy the files into an .AWS tape file. ? ? Most of these issues would be addressed by a release of the 1996 system (maybe D7.0). You're more or less right about the status of various pieces of software. PascalJB would be easy to install, but Confer requires a bit more work since it requires various userIDs and files in obscure locations. I know that Jeff Ogden has looked into this and thinks it is possible, but it hasn't been done. There is no interest in MTS at UM and no one is running or studying it officially. Most people aren't aware that it existed. I don't know if there is any interest in Software Archaeology here. A couple of years ago I gave a short talk in Newcastle about the history of MTS. I know the CS department there has a significant interest in the history of IT. II was impressed that the Mayor of Newcastle attended, complete with his regalia, and said he remembered using MTS when he aws a student at Newcastle. Thanks for nudging me about the 1996 system. I really want to get that done but I have a few higher priority things to clear up first. Mike On 26 Feb 2023, at 15:15, John Palmer wrote: I saw an e-mail posted on the MTS archive site from Bon Parnes (Confer creator) that seemed to indicate that he was OK with distributing Confer to people. Is there any way we could get an .AWS file with the Confer program components? ? I was also wondering about Fortran 77 (*FTNVS) and Pascal VS. I imagine that those are probably still protected IBM property and are probably in the same boat as *ASMH. ??If Pascal VS or *FTNVS are available, it would be cool if we could get those somehow as well. ? I also understand that the creator of *PascalJB has indicated that it can be made available as well. ? I was wondering, in general, what is the status of MTS at U of M? Does U of M have any official instances of MTS running under Hercules? ? I know that there is a new sub-field of CS called “Software Archaeology” that studies older software systems (for various reasons) – someone did a PHD on this recently. I was wondering if maybe the CS department had it running. ? Sill anxiously awaiting the release of “d7.0”. I know a lot of people are doing this work on a voluntary basis, and we all appreciate that a lot. ? Thanks John
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