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Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:21 AM, René Ferland wrote:
>> The big question for me is whether or not it is possible to create/edit/submit jobs to POWER with VTP 3.8.
>> I’m not sure I understand what this means.

I meant: can I use VTP 3.8 to create a member of a private source library, which will contain a complete job, and then submit this job to POWER (with a submit command of some kind inside VTP) and check the output in the LST queue (from VTP)? In other words, is VTP 3.8 a reasonable substitute for ICCF?
?Understood.? Having never seen VTP, I can't comment.? However, being an avid ICCF user, I can only hope VTP can be a reasonable substitute.

Now my task is to find VTP 3.7!? Any idea where?


Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

Hello Jim and Rene

I still had the directory on my PC containing the DOS/VS system I was playing around with back in 2022 so I thought I would have a look and see if I could bring it up again and try running VTP as I had left it back then.

I said previously that I had been running the original DOS/VS 5 pack system and the DOS/VS 5 pack v1r0m1 system at various times so I can't remember what state the disks I have are in.? What I did discover is that VTP seems to work with supervisor $$A$SUPT.
This probably came from the v1r0m1 system.

The open errors for FILE02 - FILE14 can be ignored as only FILE00 and FILE01 exist.

As I said before, I am a DOS/VS novice so I can't be of much help.? My background was MVS etc.

Best regards, Alex.


Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

>> I was assuming you were successful in your installation of VTP but now realize you were
>> running version 3.7. I am moderately glad to see you are experiencing the same results. ;-)

I just tried to run VTP 3.8 with supervisor $$A$SUPV and POWERV with no more success. :-(


>> Perhaps I should downgrade and run version 3.7.

For sure, it is easier to install, and it runs with DOS/VS as a guest under VM/370 (despite the opposite claim in the readme.txt).


>> Before my changes, I was able to initiate VTP in F3. It was only
>> after I DIALed that the abends occurred. Now I can’t even start VTP.

Well, that's too bad :-(?


>> The big question for me is whether or not it is possible to create/edit/submit jobs to POWER with VTP 3.8.
>> I’m not sure I understand what this means.

I meant: can I use VTP 3.8 to create a member of a private source library, which will contain a complete job, and then submit this job to POWER (with a submit command of some kind inside VTP) and check the output in the LST queue (from VTP)? In other words, is VTP 3.8 a reasonable substitute for ICCF?


>> Thank you for spending time with this!

No problem :-)?

Cheers,

René FERLAND, Montréal


Re: PS/44

 

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Mark,

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To be honest, I was fascinated by PS/44.? I only recently learned about it when I was preparing for a presentation, I’m going to be giving at the VM Workshop later this week.? Part of my talk will cover the development of FORTRAN and COBOL.? I was fascinated to realize that IBM built a machine that was missing instructions in order to operate faster, and had a special operating system that could only compile FORTRAN.?

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John

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Waterbury <mark.s.waterbury@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:14 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H390-DOSVS] PS/44

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John,

So, what is your interest?in PS/44?? Did you ever work with the model 44, back in the day?


When I attended Clarkson College of Technology (now Clarkson U.) in Potsdam, NY from 1971 through 1975, they ran 44-MFT, a locally modified variant of PS/44.? It was very similar to the 44-MPS described elsewhere and made available via SHARE Program Library Agency (SPLA).? I was a student operator and ran batch jobs on 44-MFT on week-ends.? Fun times!

I have uploaded the files for 44-MPS to a new "PS44-MPS" folder in the "Files" area of this group.

?

You can find almost all of the relevant manuals for the IBM PS/44 (aka. 44/PS) here:

?

? ??

?

See also the attached document and source code (recovered from some old SHARE SPLA Tapes.)

?

This is probably as close as we can ever get to finding a copy of PS/44.

?

What is missing are the tools to format disk packs, to put the system on the SYSRES volume, etc. -- the tools described?in the System Programming manual of PS/44.? ?But I believe we can substitute equivalent tools and utilities from DOS/360 and OS/360.? ?Use either 2311 or 2314.? ?The other disk drive, 1311 or whatever it was, was a very strange device -- very non-standard, not very much like other IBM DASD of that time period.? ?

?

See also:

? ???

?

This site can "point the way" to how to bootstrap MPS/44, for example, how to write an IPL program, put it on the disk, etc. -- starts from the very basics and builds up.

?

I think the closest we can get to a running PS/44 look-alike would be to use this approach to resurrect MPS, substituting and using various utilities from OS/360 or DOS/360 as needed.

?

For example, PS/44 (and 44-MPS) had "directoried data sets" that are similar to but not identical with an OS PDS.? We can just create and use a PDS.? This may require a few small changes to some of the channel programs used in MPS.? The TXXOS web site shows how to do these tasks, for example, how to read data from a PDS to load a program member into memory, etc.

?

Look this all over and let me know what you think.

?

All the best,

?

Mark S. Waterbury


Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

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Greetings Professor,

It is so nice to hear from you again.?

Jim, you are exactly where I was yesterday after spending an entire afternoon trying to make this VTP 3.8 work.

I was assuming you were successful in your installation of VTP but now realize you were running version 3.7. I am moderately glad to see you are experiencing the same results. ;-)

Perhaps I should downgrade and run version 3.7.?

Before my changes, I was able to initiate VTP in F3. It was only after I DIALed that the abends occurred. Now I can’t even start VTP.?

The big question for me is whether or not it is possible to create/edit/submit jobs to POWER with VTP 3.8.

I’m not sure I understand what this means.?

Thank you for spending time with this!
?
Best regards,
Jim



Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 06:00 PM, Jim Snellen wrote:
What are FILE00 thru FILE14?
Why am I still crashing?

Jim, you are exactly where I was yesterday after spending an entire afternoon trying to make this VTP 3.8 work. I don't know why it behaves like that. However I noticed that the system storage map given in the README does not correspond to the default one of the 5-pack. Also, according to the map, F1 runs a program named POWERV. So I assume the creator of VTP uses a different supervisor and version of POWER on his system. Maybe that plays a role. As a matter of fact, the private library of the previous version, VTP 3.7, contains both the two phases $$A$SUPV and POWERV. I did not tried to restore and use them for this version however.

The big question for me is whether or not it is possible to create/edit/submit jobs to POWER with VTP 3.8. The warning "Also be advised, [that version] does not support cross part communications!" seems to suggest the answer is no. If so, the program can be used to explore DOS/VS with an interactive interface, but not really to work with it. It was certainly the case of the previous version.

In any case, I feel this "corrected" VTP 3.8 needs more corrections :-) or at least a more complete README (no offense intended).

Cheers,

René FERLAND, Montréal



Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

OK! What an interesting trip down memory lane. . .

1. I reassembled the POWER module changing 'ACCOUNT=NO' to 'ACCOUNT=YES' and called it POWERA.

2. I copied POWER SYSIN to POWERA SYSIN and changed '// EXEC POWER' to '// EXEC POWERA' and 'FORMAT=N' to 'FORMAT=A'.

3. I reformatted the input records for ' U000.SECURITY.FILE' and rebuilt the two files? 'U000.SECURITY.FILE' and 'U000.CONTROL.FILE' using?
OSS99 and VTPUTIL respectively.

4. Finally, I issued 'R RDR,VTP' and got the following results.
01 F1 1Q34I ?LST WAITING FOR WORK ON 00E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
02 AR R RDR,VTP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
03 F1 1R88I ?OK ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
04 F1 1Q47I ? F3 VTP 00151 FROM 000 VTP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
05 F3 // JOB VTP ? ? ? ? RUN VTP 3.8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
06 ? ?DATE 06/18/24,CLOCK 15/38/12 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
07 F3 4228I FILE FILE00 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
08 F3 4228I FILE FILE01 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
09 F3 4228I FILE FILE02 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
10 F3 4228I FILE FILE03 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
11 F3 4228I FILE FILE04 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
12 F3 4228I FILE FILE05 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
13 F3 4228I FILE FILE06 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
14 F3 4228I FILE FILE07 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
15 F3 4228I FILE FILE09 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
16 F3 4228I FILE FILE11 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
17 F3 4228I FILE FILE13 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
18 F3 4228I FILE FILE14 ? ? OPEN ?ERROR X'80'(128) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
19 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000002 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
20 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000004 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
** ?MESSAGE REDISPLAY ?BWD ALL=0060 ? ? ? ? ? ***
01 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000006 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
02 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000008 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
03 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000000A ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
04 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000000C ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
05 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000000E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
06 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000010 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
07 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000012 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
08 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000014 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
09 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000016 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
10 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000640000018 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
11 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000001C ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
12 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000001E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
13 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000024 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
14 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000026 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
15 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D0001C000002C ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
16 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000002E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
17 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000030 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
18 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000032 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
19 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000034 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
20 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000036 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
** ?MESSAGE REDISPLAY ?FWD ALL=0040 ? ? ? ? ? ***
01 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000038 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
02 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000003C ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
03 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000003E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
04 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000040 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
05 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000640000042 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
06 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000640000044 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
07 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000046 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
08 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000048 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
09 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000004A ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
10 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D00014000004E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
11 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000050 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
12 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000140000052 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
13 F3 VTPX001 ENTRY-00000000 PSW-073D000180000056 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
14 F3 0S03I PROGRAM CHECK INTERRUPTION - HEX LOCATION 4CC2E0 - ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
15 ? ? ? ? ?CONDITION CODE 2 - ADDRESSING EXCEPTION ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
16 ? ?0S00I JOB VTP ? ? ?CANCELED ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
17 F3 EOJ VTP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
18 ? ?DATE 06/18/24,CLOCK 15/38/14,DURATION 00/00/01 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
19 F1 1Q34I ? F3 WAITING FOR WORK ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
20 F1 1Q34I ?LST WAITING FOR WORK ON 00E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
** ?MESSAGE REDISPLAY ?FWD ALL=0020 ? ? ? ? ? ***

What are FILE00 thru FILE14?
Why am I still crashing?


Re: PS/44

 

John,

So, what is your interest?in PS/44?? Did you ever work with the model 44, back in the day?

When I attended Clarkson College of Technology (now Clarkson U.) in Potsdam, NY from 1971 through 1975, they ran 44-MFT, a locally modified variant of PS/44.? It was very similar to the 44-MPS described elsewhere and made available via SHARE Program Library Agency (SPLA).? I was a student operator and ran batch jobs on 44-MFT on week-ends.? Fun times!

I have uploaded the files for 44-MPS to a new "PS44-MPS" folder in the "Files" area of this group.
?
You can find almost all of the relevant manuals for the IBM PS/44 (aka. 44/PS) here:
?
? ??
?
See also the attached document and source code (recovered from some old SHARE SPLA Tapes.)
?
This is probably as close as we can ever get to finding a copy of PS/44.
?
What is missing are the tools to format disk packs, to put the system on the SYSRES volume, etc. -- the tools described?in the System Programming manual of PS/44.? ?But I believe we can substitute equivalent tools and utilities from DOS/360 and OS/360.? ?Use either 2311 or 2314.? ?The other disk drive, 1311 or whatever it was, was a very strange device -- very non-standard, not very much like other IBM DASD of that time period.? ?
?
See also:
? ???
?
This site can "point the way" to how to bootstrap MPS/44, for example, how to write an IPL program, put it on the disk, etc. -- starts from the very basics and builds up.
?
I think the closest we can get to a running PS/44 look-alike would be to use this approach to resurrect MPS, substituting and using various utilities from OS/360 or DOS/360 as needed.
?
For example, PS/44 (and 44-MPS) had "directoried data sets" that are similar to but not identical with an OS PDS.? We can just create and use a PDS.? This may require a few small changes to some of the channel programs used in MPS.? The TXXOS web site shows how to do these tasks, for example, how to read data from a PDS to load a program member into memory, etc.
?
Look this all over and let me know what you think.
?
All the best,
?
Mark S. Waterbury


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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Mark Waterbury <mark.s.waterbury@...>

Description:
Source code for MPS for 360 model 44, recovered from old SHARE SPLA tapes.


The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Mark Waterbury <mark.s.waterbury@...>

Description:
Documentation for 44-MPS, from SPLA - the SHARE Program Library Agency.


The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Mark Waterbury <mark.s.waterbury@...>

Description:
44-MPS documentation from SHARE Program Library Agency.


Re: PS/44

 

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Thanks Joe for the Wikipedia link.? A lot of detail and additional links.? When I get a chance, I plan to copy to my system.

Harold

On 6/17/24 12:18, Joe Monk wrote:

I dont the 44 supported FBA...

A unique feature of the Model 44 is its integrated single disk storage drive which uses the cartridge and provides 1,171,200 bytes:?pp.5,?11? of removable disk storage built right into the CPU. A second integrated drive is available as an option.:?p.12? The Model 44 Programming System (M44PS) uses this drive as a systems residence device.:?p.7?

Joe

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 9:56?AM Harold Grovesteen via <h.grovsteen=[email protected]> wrote:

By which I am assuming the format of the disk is unknown and possibly the contents.

I have tools in SATK that can readily build a FBA disk image.? But you do need to know what goes on it and how it is structured on the disk.? Both of which appear to be unavailable.

Harold Grovesteen

On 6/17/24 09:19, Richard Cornwell wrote:
Assembling it would not be a problem, DOS should be able to assemble it. However what we have is only the changes from PS/44 to make MPS/44. What is lacking it the tools to format the disk and load the decks onto the disk. So it is a lot of code to write to get it installed on a disk. It could either be installed on a 2311 or special disk for 44. Basically a couple megabyte FBA disk.

Rich


Re: PS/44

 

According to the Functional Characteristics the 2315 drive had 200 cylinders + 3 spare. Each cylinder consisted of 16 sectors of 366 bytes each.

It supported '0001011' + 1 byte for seek cylinder.
???????????? 'hsss1010' for read. Read begins at h(Head), sss(Sector) and continues to end of track
???????????? 'hsss1001' for write. It began at given sector until end of track, if there was not enough data the rest of the track was written as 0.
??????????? '00000010' Read IPL, '00000011' NOP, '00000100' Sense.

The 44 supported most of the RR, RX, RS, and SI instructions. According to docs it did not support LM/STM, BXH, BXLE but they are used in MPS/44.

The 44 also allowed for instructions do be placed in bump storage and on illegal opcode it could transfer to bump storage to be executed.

Rich


Re: PS/44

 

On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 13:18, Joe Monk via <joemonk64=[email protected]> wrote:
I dont the 44 supported FBA...

Stronger than that - I don't think FBA (in the IBM mainframe context) overlapped the 360/44 or 44PS at all. Whether any IBM FBA disk device could be attached to any S/360 (or at least was supported by IBM in such a configuration) is doubtful, but I don't know for sure that it was impossible.?
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A unique feature of the Model 44 is its integrated single disk storage drive which uses the cartridge and provides 1,171,200 bytes:?pp.5,?11? of removable disk storage built right into the CPU. A second integrated drive is available as an option.:?p.12? The Model 44 Programming System (M44PS) uses this drive as a systems residence device.:?p.7?

And that little built-in drive is not supported by any other OS than 44PS.
?
Joe

Tony H.


Re: PS/44

 

I dont the 44 supported FBA...

A unique feature of the Model 44 is its integrated single disk storage drive which uses the cartridge and provides 1,171,200 bytes:?pp.5,?11? of removable disk storage built right into the CPU. A second integrated drive is available as an option.:?p.12? The Model 44 Programming System (M44PS) uses this drive as a systems residence device.:?p.7?

Joe

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 9:56?AM Harold Grovesteen via <h.grovsteen=[email protected]> wrote:

By which I am assuming the format of the disk is unknown and possibly the contents.

I have tools in SATK that can readily build a FBA disk image.? But you do need to know what goes on it and how it is structured on the disk.? Both of which appear to be unavailable.

Harold Grovesteen

On 6/17/24 09:19, Richard Cornwell wrote:
Assembling it would not be a problem, DOS should be able to assemble it. However what we have is only the changes from PS/44 to make MPS/44. What is lacking it the tools to format the disk and load the decks onto the disk. So it is a lot of code to write to get it installed on a disk. It could either be installed on a 2311 or special disk for 44. Basically a couple megabyte FBA disk.

Rich


Re: PS/44

 

The model 44 was a specialized box. The largest amount of memory was 256K. It didnt have some instructions.



Joe

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 7:00?AM John Rankin via <John.Rankin=[email protected]> wrote:

Has anyone found a copy of the installation tapes for this specialized operating system.

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PS/44 was designed for the s/360 Model 44, and only allowed Fortran to run.

?

John Rankin


Re: PS/44

 

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By which I am assuming the format of the disk is unknown and possibly the contents.

I have tools in SATK that can readily build a FBA disk image.? But you do need to know what goes on it and how it is structured on the disk.? Both of which appear to be unavailable.

Harold Grovesteen

On 6/17/24 09:19, Richard Cornwell wrote:

Assembling it would not be a problem, DOS should be able to assemble it. However what we have is only the changes from PS/44 to make MPS/44. What is lacking it the tools to format the disk and load the decks onto the disk. So it is a lot of code to write to get it installed on a disk. It could either be installed on a 2311 or special disk for 44. Basically a couple megabyte FBA disk.

Rich


Re: PS/44

 

Assembling it would not be a problem, DOS should be able to assemble it. However what we have is only the changes from PS/44 to make MPS/44. What is lacking it the tools to format the disk and load the decks onto the disk. So it is a lot of code to write to get it installed on a disk. It could either be installed on a 2311 or special disk for 44. Basically a couple megabyte FBA disk.

Rich


Re: PS/44

 

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Is the format of the disk known?? Is the content on the disk also known?? I have a lot of tools for building emulated disks.? So might help.??

I am assuming running the code would use an emulator of some kind.? The SATK assembler, ASMA, has support to assemble code for PS/44 with all of its "weirdness".? The resulting code has not ever been tested.? In fact I never thought it might be possible.? But with an emulator, it could be and of some use depending upon why the original programs are being sought.

Harold Grovesteen

On 6/17/24 07:46, Richard Cornwell wrote:

There is source for MPS/44 which is a variant of PS/44. However it is incomplete. It is missing the utilities to create the disk and load it. If you do find it let me know.

Rich


Re: PS/44

 

There is source for MPS/44 which is a variant of PS/44. However it is incomplete. It is missing the utilities to create the disk and load it. If you do find it let me know.

Rich


PS/44

 

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Has anyone found a copy of the installation tapes for this specialized operating system.

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PS/44 was designed for the s/360 Model 44, and only allowed Fortran to run.

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John Rankin


Re: VTP Assistance Needed

 

Forgot to cite my source-
a post by Rene Ferland