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We've moved! Now I have some questions
debbie
![]() The move went impressively very smoothly. I have to thank Mark for that. I am going to ask a bunch of questions here. Some of them may be answerable only by Mark (I really don't know), but I would like not to take his time for things that you all can answer here. It's also thanks to this group for being here, before we made the transfer, that made it so smooth for me. It's a treasure. Thanks, Shal and everyone else! 1. The last day or so of messages in the old group don't show up. Is it because the download Mark used was done a day before the transfer? I downloaded those messages. If I offer the .txt file of those downloaded messages that I downloaded, would Mark be able to use that and add them? 2. At the time of the transfer there were only two members on the group (my own addresses). In the message from telling me the transfer was complete, in the section "The following email addresses were not added", there were four that said "already subscribed". The other two were definitely not on the subscription list before the transfer. The group was not in the directory at the time and I only ever saw '2' as the number of members. Could it be they were already a member of a different group, so were 'in the system'? 3. I noticed that if you change to digest, you will start receiving digests from the first message after you changed. This means that digests are not the same for every member. What's the point of that? Doesn't it make sense for all digest subscribers to have identical digests? 4. I've followed the discussion about the European date format and 24 hours clock. While that sure would be nice to be able to choose, more frustrating is the time being used is US-PST. I looked around the settings and couldn't find a way to set, at least my own account, if not the whole group, to my local time zone. Is there a setting for that? 5. I have one more group I would like to transfer. I have all the members and messages downloaded. Would Mark be able to use those files, if I send them to him (as mentioned in #1 above?) I would assume 'transfer' then does not need to be a member, right? 6. My group is fully moderated, with new subscribers fully moderated. I get the notifications via email and read them there, but I do all the approvals on the website. I'm happy to see some of the features we lost in yahoogroups reinstated here, such as being able to choose from the list of pending messages which to approve at one time. Why does there need to be extra steps to approve a member? I find that I can only do them individually, only with a pull down menu and still needing to confirm it. 7. Was there ever a reason given why there is not a comment box on the page for joining the group? 8. Is there a way to make changes to or delete the automatic footer? 9. We have a website associated with the group. My husband uploaded the coding for joining this list, as provided in the promote section. It shows up on the page, but doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is an issue with this? As a work around, he replaced it with a link to the join page, which is working fine. Thanks, everyone, for all your help! Debbie ? |
Debbie,
1. The last day or so of messages in the old group don't show up. IsI think that's correct. The problems with copying Files and other content probably spread out the copy operations more than they normally are. I downloaded those messages. If I offer the .txt file of thoseYeah, that one's for Mark. It may depend on how you downloaded them. If you used the Chrome app from YahooGroupedia that's probably the best, as it will include the full view source of each message. If you screen-scraped them from the Conversations section that probably wouldn't work with the tools he has. It is also possible he'd be willing to update the archive using the tools he's written. 2. At the time of the transfer there were only two members on theThat's odd, but beyond checking to see that they are now in the group I don't think I'd worry about it. Could it be they were already a member of a different goups.ioNo, that shouldn't matter. Their subscriptions would still need to be added in your group. 3. I noticed that if you change to digest, you will start receivingThat's not how digests work here - they are individually crafted. That's because members can mute and follow topics or hashtags. See also: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/3244 4. ... more frustrating is the time being used is US-PST. I lookedIt is an account setting. Choose Account from the drop-list on your name, on the right in the top blue banner. Too late now for the transferred members, but there's also a default you can set for new members who join in the future. Find that on the Default Sub Settings tab of your group's Settings page. 5. I have one more group I would like to transfer. I have all theAgain, a question for Mark. I know he has in the past accepted lists of addresses from other types of email list systems, but that hasn't before been relevant for Yahoo or Google groups. I would assume 'transfer' then does not need to be a member, right?Sounds right to me, if you're not planning to have the transfer agent copy photos, files or other content. 7. Was there ever a reason given why there is not a comment box on theI think it is just lack of a round tuit. It has been discussed in beta@ in various forms and is on the to-do list: 8. Is there a way to make changes to or delete the groups.ioNo. 10. Just curious. What does Mark get from those of us who only use theSame as any "Freemium" service: visibility, word-of-mouth, and the possibility that some of the free users will eventually upgrade. Can't it be said that those who are paying for the premium service areIt can. But that's considered normal for this business model. Shal |
debbie
![]() It may depend on how you downloaded them. If you used the Chrome app from YahooGroupedia that's probably the best, as it will include the full view source of each message. If you screen-scraped them from the Conversations section that probably wouldn't work with the tools he has. It is also possible he'd be willing to update the archive using the tools he's written. Yes, I did use the Chrome App and will write to Mark to ask him. Right now, it's working well for downloading member lists and for a small group of messages, but not for a whole message archive. It's too bad it has come to that with Yahoogroups. ?
This is great. I did this for myself and for the group. I am only sorry I did not see this when I was going through the settings before the transfer. I am going to send an email to the members to explain it to them. No one has asked about it, but anyone who reads online must be confused, as we are 10 hours ahead of PST. > 8. Is there a way to make changes to or delete the That's not good. That long footer comes out in two sections. I put the URL of our website in the Message Footer section of my group and it's coming out between the two sections. Doesn't make sense and looks very strange. Also, many of the member of my group only have email access and don't even have Internet access at all, so none of the links in the automatic footer are useful to them. I was thinking of putting some of the email commands in the group's Message Footer section, for them to use, but it will be so long and if it comes out after the automatic footer, it's pretty much useless. I will write to Mark about that. Do you think I should write to support or to the beta group? I had another question, but didn't write it down, and now forgot it. Oh, well. When I remember, I'll just have to send another message. :) Thanks again. Debbie |
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 05:30 am, debbie wrote:
There has been some discussion and requests for this on beta@, and (and possibly others.)? Both are now moderated, but you can still add comments if they're approved.? I don't see anything about it on yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Mark isn't aware/working on it. Duane |
debbie
![]() ? On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Thanks, Duane[excess quote trimmed by moderator] |
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