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Transferring Small Yahoo Groups


 

I have just joined this forum. I own two long-standing Restricted Yahoo Groups with about 100 members each and well under 1 GB of pictures and files.

With the recent changes in Yahoo Groups I want to move these groups to groups.io, including the membership, pictures and files now on the Yahoo Group. When I just read the instructions to do this, I note groups.io now "ask that you sign up for the Premium Yearly plan."

It that Premium Plan a request or a requirement for such small groups?

It has been a while since I checked how to move Yahoo Groups but I thought with such small groups and limited storage the groups.io service was free.

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Larry McDavid
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 03:11 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:
It that Premium Plan a request or a requirement for such small groups?
Larry -- It is a requirement that, before you do a transfer, you pay for one year of Premium ($110). After that, you may downgrade.

If you don't want your files/photos/messages transferred, or are willing to do it manually yourself, you can still initiate a new group on the Basic plan and not pay anything.

It has been a while since I checked how to move Yahoo Groups but I thought with such small groups and limited storage the groups.io service was free.
The transfer process is not fully automated and takes some manpower. At one point it was free, but the volume of transfers eventually reached the point that groups.io management could no longer continue doing that much work without any compensation.

The price of procrastination, I guess.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 02:21 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
After that, you may downgrade.
To clarify, that's after one year of premium service.? You can actually change it any time, but it won't take effect until your current term expires.? Many folks did (and still do) upgrade to premium for a month now and then for specific tasks.

Duane
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Duane <txpigeon@...>o wrote:

After that, you may downgrade.
To clarify, that's after one year of premium service. You can
actually change it any time, but it won't take effect until your
current term expires. Many folks did (and still do) upgrade to
premium for a month now and then for specific tasks.
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or do we
have to pay for a year regardless?

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On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:43 PM, Laurence Taylor wrote:
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or do we
have to pay for a year regardless?
If you go to Admin>Upgrade and click the "View/Change Plan" button, there are options for Premium Yearly or Premium Monthly.

You might find a month of Premium handy if you want to Direct Add subscribers to your group without going through the invitation process. It is also a lot cheaper ($10 vs $110).

However, if you want groups.io to attempt to move your message archive, files and photos and so on (in addition to your subscribers), you have to pay the $110. This payment also allows you to re-try the transfer later if some content doesn't make it over, due to ongoing Yahoo server issues.

The money has to be paid up-front and there are no refunds.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

Is there no option for a yearly commitment at monthly payments? That is a /lot/ of money and a lot of us trying to keep our groups alive can't come up with it in a lump sum.?


 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:52 PM, <runswiththestorm@...> wrote:
Is there no option for a yearly commitment at monthly payments?
Choosing recurring monthly payments is an option for normal Premium access, but is not an option if you expect the transfer agent to move your content for you.

Regards,
Bruce


 

Definitely disappointing. I'll stop recommending groups.io to people, then, and definitely look for alternatives for my groups in the future.?


 

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Hi Bruce can I tail end this topic. You mention Direct add members under a $10 mothly payment?? I cannot see any details of that facility or how to use it. Can you advise.
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Alan Melia
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Subject: Re: [GMF] Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:43 PM, Laurence Taylor wrote:
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or do we
have to pay for a year regardless?
If you go to Admin>Upgrade and click the "View/Change Plan" button, there are options for Premium Yearly or Premium Monthly.

You might find a month of Premium handy if you want to Direct Add subscribers to your group without going through the invitation process. It is also a lot cheaper ($10 vs $110).

However, if you want groups.io to attempt to move your message archive, files and photos and so on (in addition to your subscribers), you have to pay the $110. This payment also allows you to re-try the transfer later if some content doesn't make it over, due to ongoing Yahoo server issues.

The money has to be paid up-front and there are no refunds.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
You mention Direct add members under a $10 monthly payment?? I cannot see any details of that facility or how to use it. Can you advise.
Sure.

Direct Add is achieved almost exactly like sending an Invitation. The screens even look almost identical. The only real difference is that the subscription proposal does not have to be accepted on the receiving end. The people being added are shanghaied directly into the group, do not have to confirm their accounts, and will begin to receive group emails immediately.

This can be very handy if you have a lot of people who are afraid to click on links in emails or otherwise struggle with the normal invitation process. Paying for Premium every year and using Direct Add instead of Invite has saved my primary group a lot of hand-holding.

All that said -- in the context of migrating from Yahoo Groups on the cheap -- there is nothing to prohibit you from keeping that ten bucks in your pocket and simply using the Invite process instead.

See also:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

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Thanks Bruce, I'm a blockhead I should have thought of the forum wiki !!
Alan
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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
You mention Direct add members under a $10 monthly payment?? I cannot see any details of that facility or how to use it. Can you advise.
Sure.

Direct Add is achieved almost exactly like sending an Invitation. The screens even look almost identical. The only real difference is that the subscription proposal does not have to be accepted on the receiving end. The people being added are shanghaied directly into the group, do not have to confirm their accounts, and will begin to receive group emails immediately.

This can be very handy if you have a lot of people who are afraid to click on links in emails or otherwise struggle with the normal invitation process. Paying for Premium every year and using Direct Add instead of Invite has saved my primary group a lot of hand-holding.

All that said -- in the context of migrating from Yahoo Groups on the cheap -- there is nothing to prohibit you from keeping that ten bucks in your pocket and simply using the Invite process instead.

See also:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

It also seems like Yahoo has deleted the photos and files on the backend, so I am not sure there will be much to migrate.? I have signed up and will let you know what does get migrated.


 

The files and photos definitely aren't gone. I've been downloading all afternoon. That said, the files are much easier to access than the photos. I get errors frequently when trying to download photos. I expect Yahoo is a bit overwhelmed at the demand right now, since so many of us are doing the same thing.?


 

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On 17/10/2019 20:10, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:52 PM, <runswiththestorm@...> wrote:
Is there no option for a yearly commitment at monthly payments?
Choosing recurring monthly payments is an option for normal Premium access, but is not an option if you expect the transfer agent to move your content for you.

Oh no!? It didn't say that anywhere.? I went with the monthly payment and put in a transfer request.? What do I do now?

Penny


 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 07:09 PM, PurplePenny wrote:
Choosing recurring monthly payments is an option for normal Premium access, but is not an option if you expect the transfer agent to move your content for you.

Oh no!? It didn't say that anywhere.? I went with the monthly payment and put in a transfer request.? What do I do now?

Penny -- Send an email to that effect to [email protected]. I'm sure they will fix you up with the proper payment option.

Regards,
Bruce