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Migrating the Yahoo stragglers


 

So we'll:
  1. Enable Moderation on the Y!G site
  2. Request the migration
  3. Wait, as GIO's guru[s] are busier than Santa's helpers
  4. Migration starts, but from some reports it may take several days. (Not surprising given Y!G is down to one last 28.8Kb modem to talk to the world....)
  5. Meanwhile, posts stack up in the queue on Y!G.
  6. Migration complete.

What happens with all of #5's posts?
Do they migrate as well so they can be approved on GIO, or are they lost or?


 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 08:21 AM, y@es wrote:
What happens with all of #5's posts?
Do they migrate as well so they can be approved on GIO, or are they lost or?
I don't think pending messages on YG are copied.? They'd need to be resent to the GIO group.? It may not be the best way to handle it, but there's no reason they can't post to your new group while the transfer is in process.

Duane
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Does migration take a snapshop, then start sucking bits?

OR

We see migration start, approve all the held messages, and migration catches them too?


 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 03:09 PM, y@es wrote:
We see migration start, approve all the held messages, and migration catches them too?
You will not see the migration; it will just happen. Unless it is absolutely essential that your existing group keeps functioning it might be better to advise your members of the forthcoming migration and suggest that they don't post until such time as they have been notified by Groups.io that the migration is complete at which point they should use Groups.io not Yahoo.

Chris


 

From experience I will tell you it's better to ask you members to try to hold their posts until transfer is complete if they can. If there IS urgent traffic, *and they have received the notice that they are members* of your group on groups.io (a sign the memberships have transferred) have them post to groups.io as Duane suggested. When the posts display on the web page, just make sure they display in chronological order, not message number order. (Because if they post while the messages are transferring, their posts will have message numbers that fall into the middle of the transferred messages.)
Dano - (been there, done that)

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 03:09 PM, y@es wrote:
"We see migration start, approve all the held messages, and migration catches them too?"

You will not see the migration; it will just happen. Unless it is absolutely essential that your existing group keeps functioning it might be better to advise your members of the forthcoming migration and suggest that they don't post until such time as they have been notified by Groups.io that the migration is complete at which point they should use Groups.io not Yahoo.

Chris


 

If you make your new Groups.io group a member of the Y!G then any email sent to members will also be sent to the new Group in the normal way. Yes? Or am I wrong?
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Then when the transfer is done put everyone at Y!G group on moderation and /or no mail. Owner and moderators still get mail and deal with it. This should catch the stragglers and new applicants.
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OK,
Tony
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5. Meanwhile, posts stack up in the queue on Y!G.
6. Migration complete.
What happens with all of #5's posts?
Do they migrate as well so they can be approved on GIO, or are they lost or?

?

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On Oct 23, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Tony Moody <aim@...> wrote:

If you make your new Groups.io group a member of the Y!G then any email sent to members will also be sent to the new Group in the normal way. Yes? Or am I wrong?
No, Groups.io will not become a member of the YahooGroup.

You invite [email protected] to become a member of the YahooGroup
when [email protected] accepts the invitation, you must promote [email protected] to become a Moderator of the YahooGroup

[email protected] does not forward YahooGroups emails to Groups.io members



Then when the transfer is done put everyone at Y!G group on moderation and /or no mail. Owner and moderators still get mail and deal with it. This should catch the stragglers and new applicants.
Yes, Owner and Moderators can reject / reply to posts sent to YahooGroup and remind them to use the new Groups.io posting email address


 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 02:26 PM, Tony Moody wrote:
If you make your new Groups.io group a member of the Y!G
I don't believe there's any way to do that since YG no longer has a Direct Add function.

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YG does still have tge add only to email function. I tried it with my smallest group.
It has not been added to the groups list at this point.?

Add only to mailing list.
Add Members to your group's mailing list. Mailing list users cannot use the group web experience unless they link their email address to their Yahoo Account.

A Yahoo ID should not be necessary in this case.

It may be that Yahoo computers will filter out the? email address and not add it to the mailing list. Will let you know IF and when this works.

I sent a test message from my YG group email. It already arrived in my email but not on the Groups .io message board. So I forwarded the message to my Groups.io group and it worked just fine. So we can forward our messages if we do not get transferred by Oct 28.??


I have already asked my members not to send attachments or upload files or photosphotos to YG. They are being totally kept in the loop on what is happening here while they wait. They are saving them until after the transfer. But I told them we will do all communicating through the YG email until we are migrated. the new group is being moderated. I do not want to stop communication and they will only send messages if it is important.


 

To make that work, you'd need to use an email integration on your group and use that as the address for Yahoo to send to.

Duane
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