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When you write your welcome message letting members know about your transferring them to ?and you paste it into the box in the admin section of your new group and you make it “active” does it go out immediately or does the site send it out after it realizes the transfer is complete. We are writing one but unsure when to make it “active.” We don’t want members coming over and roaming around a forum that we aren’t finished setting up the way we like it.

Is there any other message??emails to members after a transfer?

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Susan B
 

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So sorry to ask again but does anyone know the answers? I know you all are incredibly busy. We are trying to figure out just how to word our message.

Many thanks?

Susan B


On Oct 22, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Susan B <doggiesmail@...> wrote:

When you write your welcome message letting members know about your transferring them to ?and you paste it into the box in the admin section of your new group and you make it “active” does it go out immediately or does the site send it out after it realizes the transfer is complete. We are writing one but unsure when to make it “active.” We don’t want members coming over and roaming around a forum that we aren’t finished setting up the way we like it.

Is there any other message??emails to members after a transfer?

Thank you
Susan B
 

Susan, based on earlier comments, I think that the Welcome message only goes out when the group has been transferred.
I would finish writing your Welcome notice and activate it.
If I am wrong, it won't do any harm!?

Frances
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Frances,
?We’ll do what you suggest and change our wording to match the idea that it goes out after the transfer.

Susan B


On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

Susan, based on earlier comments, I think that the Welcome message only goes out when the group has been transferred.
I would finish writing your Welcome notice and activate it.
If I am wrong, it won't do any harm!?

Frances
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Susan B <doggiesmail@...> wrote:

When you write your welcome message letting members know about your transferring them to groups.io and you paste it into the box in the admin section of your new group and you make it “active” does it go out immediately or does the site send it out after it realizes the transfer is complete.
An Active Welcome message get sent to each member when they join, or are transferred, which may or may not be before the transfer is completed.
If your Welcome message is not active then the default Welcome messages will be sent.

We are writing one but unsure when to make it “active.” We don’t want members coming over and roaming around a forum that we aren’t finished setting up the way we like it.
Set Admin > Settings > Spam Control to:
"Moderated", or "New Users Moderated" with at least 1 "Messages from new subscribers require approval."
and give no Moderators "Approve Pending Messages" permission,
and no Owner approves any messages
the no messages will be posted.

Also go to Admin > Settings > Privacy
and make selections there.


Is there any other message groups.io emails to members after a transfer?
You would be wise to have:
-Prevented posting at YahooGroups

-Sent a Special Notice message to Members (through YahooGroups) saying that no one can Post as the Transfer has been initiated

-Then give Groups.io the go ahead

-After Groups.io tells you the transfer is complete:
Send a Special Notice message to Members (through Groups.io and YahooGroups) saying that Transfer has taken place and give the new web and posting addresses.
 

Hi Frances.... and all interested.

I'm not sure this is particularly relevant, and all of you appear to already know this,?but FWIW:
A long time ago I had an offline exchange with Mark in which it became clear that sending out a welcome message and even advising the old yahoogroup members that you've added them to a? migrated groups.io group is optional.

If, for example, one wanted to take the event of the migration as a way to lose some troublesome members, if a mass "welcome to groups.io" does not go out, the moderator would have the option of removing the unwanted members ... leave them behind at the yahoogroup.
OTHOH, if your policy is "no troll left behind" a mass "welcome" is appropriate. ;-)
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Who would the welcome message be sent to exactly if your members aren't in the GIO system?
 

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 02:23 AM, Susan B wrote:
We’ll do what you suggest and change our wording to match the idea that it goes out after the transfer.
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Just bear in mind that it will then have to be rewritten to match its longer term purpose of welcoming new subscribers when they join later.

I think I would also argue that it is much more important that you forewarn your members (assuming that you haven't already) that a move to Groups.io is imminent using a post to your existing Yahoo group. If the first thing people know about it is an email from some organisation called Groups.io of which they have never previously heard then there is a risk that a fair number will regard the email as suspect and mark it as spam, which in turn risks their being automatically removed. See here for the GMF wiki about this.

A bit of advance notice might prevent a lot of confusion later.

Chris

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