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How do I report SPAM?


 

My groups have been getting a lot of nonmember spam not related to the group. How do I report this? The messages are rejected, but I would like to report this SPAM.

Start with this address: {redacted by Moderator}


 

On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15 AM, Barry Porter KB1PA wrote:
My groups have been getting a lot of nonmember spam not related to the group.
Every group does. Since it comes from non-members, it generally doesn't get forwarded.

How do I report this? The messages are rejected, but I would like to report this SPAM.
If you're seeing a pattern, I suppose you could report that . I'm curious as to what you expect to be done about it.
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Regards,
Bruce


 

Hi,

I tend to agree. Spammers are a dime a dozen. As soon as one is shut down, three more take its place. Also, the Email addresses they're using are either entirely bogus or belong to real people/companies that have no idea their addresses are being used this way. Blocking spam based on origin Email address is a losing game before you ever get started, as they can be harvested or generated by the billions.

Jayson

On 11/28/2024 9:45 AM, Barry Porter KB1PA via groups.io wrote:
My groups have been getting a lot of nonmember spam not related to the group. How do I report this? The messages are rejected, but I would like to report this SPAM.

Start with this address: {redacted by Moderator}





 

The simplest remedy is to stop accepting non member posts, I see none at all in my various groups

The instructions to join and post are very simple, so why accept non member posts at all?

As to reporting spam, IMHO its a complete waste of time

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 28/11/2024 15:45, Barry Porter KB1PA via groups.io wrote:
My groups have been getting a lot of nonmember spam not related to the group. How do I report this? The messages are rejected, but I would like to report this SPAM.


 

We get it, too. It doesn't get through because of our settings. I don't worry about it.
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Pete


 

On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 12:19 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:


The instructions to join and post are very simple, so why accept non member
posts at all
A useful suggestion but after setting one's group to not accept non-member posts
how then do potential new members contact one's group to request joining?

Just curious . . . .

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 01:51 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
A useful suggestion but after setting one's group to not accept non-member posts
how then do potential new members contact one's group to request joining?

Just curious . . . .
The applicant for group membership would click on Apply for membership. Or email the group owner email address.?
They would not be able to simply email the whole group.
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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As Frances has said, joining and enquiry links are all on the home page which anyone wanting to join would start from

Granted I do not allow non member posts but I have never had an enquiry except using the join this group button on the home page

And can't recall getting a request or enquiry to join via the owners address which is also clearly on the home page

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 29/11/2024 18:04, Epicatt2 via groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 12:19 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:


The instructions to join and post are very simple, so why accept non member
posts at all
A useful suggestion but after setting one's group to not accept non-member posts
how then do potential new members contact one's group to request joining?
Just curious . . . .
Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving


 
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 02:02 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
And can't recall getting a request or enquiry to join via the owners address which is also clearly on the home page
I was thinking someone might want more info about the group before joining. But not likely if you have a reasonable homepage description.
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I do allow non-member messages to my groups, but these messages are moderated, so I can let them through (likely with an updated subject line) if they are useful.
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However the non-member doesn't get to read any replies to their post, unless someone (me?!) contacts them by regular email about it. ?Useful on occasion though, especially for committee Groups where our housing management might want to contact the committee. Then I summarize any replies and send it off to the Management.
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The subject line for this thread is How do I report SPAM. I do see occasional spam. First, to the group-owner email address and I just delete it. Then, from non-members trying to post to the group, but since it is moderated, I delete it. And then there are spam-like messages from group members who wander off topic - way off topic!
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My own groups are mostly restricted and unmoderated. A big travel group is not restricted but moderated.

There is a setting in Message Policies relating to this is:
Allow Nonmembers to Post
(Messages from nonmembers will be moderated instead of rejected.)
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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Your experience is happier than mine. I get requests to join from people who are already members.
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 01:02 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:

And can't recall getting a request or enquiry to join via the owners address which is also clearly on the home page


 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 02:32 PM, Erikag59 wrote:
Your experience is happier than mine. I get requests to join from people who are already members.
Erika, they must be trying to join with another email address. Do you think that they are trying to change their email address? Or is it forgetfulness?
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If you try to Join with an email address that is already registered with the group, you get an error message:
Email Address?
That email address is already registered. To use it, Log In.
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 05:15 PM, Barry Porter KB1PA wrote:


My groups have been getting a lot of nonmember spam not related to the group.
How do I report this? The messages are rejected, but I would like to report
this SPAM.

Start with this address: {redacted by Moderator}
I believe groups.io does stop some spam, but there is no way to report it. The address probably is spoofed.

I think we have two options: either use a personal spamfilter, or have one at the email-provider-level. The latter will be better because it increases the chances that a certain "message" is reported by several others before it gets sent to you.

My email-provider uses a filter called "spamassassin", and my estimate is that it catches 90 % of spam, and 5% of what it catches is ham (=not spam).

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo


 

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NO| The simplest remedy is to stop
| accepting non member posts, I
| see none at all in my various
| groups


I believe this experience varies...
All of my groups allow non-members
to post messages (but they are moderated),
and our groups do not receive any
spam at all.


NO| so why accept non member posts at all?


In my case, I think that if non-members
can read the messages, so they should
also have the right to comment on them.


NO| As to reporting spam, IMHO its
| a complete waste of time


I totally agree.


[ ] Rubens


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Frances,
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Yes, I think it's forgetfulness. No, they're not trying to join using the usual channels. They're sending a "Please add me to the group" message to the group posting address.
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People who use different email addresses for different groups and can't remember which is which are another headache.
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--Erik
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 01:38 PM, Frances wrote:

Erika, they must be trying to join with another email address. Do you think that they are trying to change their email address? Or is it forgetfulness?
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If you try to Join with an email address that is already registered with the group, you get an error message:
Email Address?
That email address is already registered. To use it, Log In.


 

Do you get many non member posts?

If a groups message archive is open anyone can read the posts, but to be able to post or reply requires a person to join the group to my mind

A non member post is moderated and if passed does it then go to the group? the non member is not informed of this and if anyone replies to it the non member isn't informed, so I can't really see the point of that, surely the aim is to get that person to subscribe to join in with the conversation?

Of course different subjects may require different rules but for mine which are for genealogy I would want them to subscribe before any further interaction


Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I believe this experience varies...
All of my groups allow non-members
to post messages (but they are moderated),
and our groups do not receive any
spam at all.
NO| so why accept non member posts at all?
In my case, I think that if non-members
can read the messages, so they should
also have the right to comment on them.


 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 04:58 PM, Erikag59 wrote:
They're sending a "Please add me to the group" message to the group posting address.
A lot of those come from spammers.? I ignore anyone that can't figure out how to join the group properly and don't allow non-members to post.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


 

Barry . . .

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 07:45:25 -0800, "Barry Porter KB1PA via groups.io"
<kb1pa@...> wrote:

but I would like to report this SPAM.

Start with this address: {redacted by Moderator}
If you were hoping this group could take action against a certain SPAM
address, we can't. This is a self-help group with members assisting
other members on various subjects. We can't reject an address.

You can take action yourself by not allowing non-members to post, as
Nivard has suggested. You can still get SPAM sent to the group-owners'
address, but I don't see much of that myself. You can just ignore
those.


Donald



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