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Re: Messages Display Default

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:31 PM, Art_in_NJ wrote:
my inclination is to just double-click on the desired group
You actually only need a single click.

That page used to catch me regularly, but I finally realized I could use the column on the right for Messages view.? Makes sense that you could do both since it's an overview.? Now all you need to do is teach your finger not to click on the group name. ;>)

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Mbox imports

 

Mark just posted this on the API subgroup of beta.? Since it's not a group that many would pay attention to (52 members), I thought I should repost it here for clarification of some previous messages:


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
If you can convert the messages into an mbox format, I can import them into your group, along with your users, like we do with Yahoo groups. For that, I ask that you pre-pay for a year of premium service for your group. Contact me off list if/when you're ready to go ahead with that.
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Re: Messages Display Default

 

Thanks, Duane ...? That does the trick ... but since my groups (only 2) are already displayed on the screen of the overview page, my inclination is to just double-click on the desired group instead of going through the extra step of using the "Your Groups" drop-down.? Oh, well ...


Re: After transfer from yahoo, hundreds of emails listed in "direct add" in each subgroup #transfer #subgroups #direct

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:32 PM, Edith Casterline wrote:
Questions:
1. I don't want the parent group members to be automatically added to the subgroups. Is this a setting I can turn on/off? If so, where/how?
Parent groups members are NOT automatically added to subgroups. The people already there now are those that were added via the transfer operation.

2. Is there a way to clear all these emails out of the "Direct Add" so that it's blank and I can directly add people myself? (Perhaps that'll be fixed by question 1...)
No.

All members of a subgroup must be members of the parent group, too. As a corollary to this, there is no way to Direct Add someone from outside your group directly into a subgroup. You have to Direct Add them to the parent group first...after that's completed, you can then Direct Add them to the subgroup.?

You can, however, Invite someone directly to a subgroup. When that person accepts the invitation, he will automatically be added to BOTH the primary group and the subgroup.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup

Bruce


After transfer from yahoo, hundreds of emails listed in "direct add" in each subgroup #transfer #subgroups #direct

 

We had groups.io transfer our 2 yahoo listserv email lists (with overlapping membership) into 2 separate subgroups of our new main group. The transfer seemed to go fine; each sub-group ended up with 500+ members, which was what I expected.

But when I go to the admin settings for one of the subgroups, and go to "Direct Add" it says "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" at the top, and there are hundreds of emails listed, waiting for me to select them and click on "Add Members". They seem to be members of the other subgroup (I did spot checking).

Questions:
1. I don't want the parent group members to be automatically added to the subgroups. Is this a setting I can turn on/off? If so, where/how?
2. Is there a way to clear all these emails out of the "Direct Add" so that it's blank and I can directly add people myself? (Perhaps that'll be fixed by question 1...)


Re: [SOLVED]Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

Doug,

I've actually had and solved this problem. Yahoo sent out a message several months ago that some people ignored. It stated that if you owned or moderated a group with an ID other than *@yahoo.com, many of your privileges would soon be disabled.

At that I was owning the group with "marks@..." which was a Yahoo service, but slightly different mail agent.? AT&T validates the login password, too.

Fearing future difficulties (but not anticipating the shutdown), I created a second ID, lvmarks2000@.... I subscribed it. Then with my original ID, I made the second ID also a moderator. Never touched the second ID for months. It was just insurance.

Then, when I needed to do a PG Offline download, the original ID wouldn't work. BUT THE SECOND ONE DID!

There is no reason to think that this same procedure won't work for you:
1) Create a real, native Yahoo ID
2) Give it Moderator privileges using your original ID
3) Give that ID to GIO and ask them to try again.

BTW, the founder of GIO seems to be an honorable person. If the group doesn't upload, I have every reason to believe that he will refund your money.

Larry


Re: Trouble opening files here that do open in Yahoo

 

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Oh ¡ª That is a distinction I hadn¡¯t thought of - opening in the browser vs. having to download. I¡¯ll check that too. Thanks for bringing that up.


On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:07 PM, Susan B wrote:
there are many files she can open at yahoo but when she tries at groups io they won¡¯t open. And we can¡¯t figure out why.
The only files on GIO that may open in the browser are PDF.? All others require either a download or file extension association with a program on her computer.

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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

Doug,



Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

That's been a common Yahoo error ever since the 2013 Neo redesign.

The "browser ritual" might help:

Shal

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Re: editing topic/message - message about the change sent?

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
If you -- as a Moderator/Owner -- edit a message after it has already posted, a notification is sent to the OP. If you perform the same edit on a message during moderation, no.
Maybe I am missing something, but I don't understand why there aren't many complaints about moderated messages being edited without notifying the OP.

On the other hand, I very much appreciate the moderator's notes on this group when moderation has included editing. In fact, I think that should be the default method instead of changing a post without notifying readers that changes have been made.
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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

Tried all flavors, Derek -- with and without < > and "? "

Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.
You can invite 100 more members today.
Send email to invite people to join your group. Enter email addresses or Yahoo IDs separated by commas.You can add first name and last name of the members you are inviting.? Example: firstname lastname <emailid@...>

Invited users need to accept the invitation, sign-in with their Yahoo ID to become members.


On Friday, November 22, 2019, 2:24:31 PM EST, Derek Milliner <derek.milliner@...> wrote:


Doug,

As several have and will point out, it's a valid ID that's been used by a very large number of Yahoo refugees. Just one thought, you have tried just [email protected]?rather than <[email protected]>?

Derek


Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

Doug,


To invite new members, Yahoo requires that they have a "Yahoo ID" [account] with a valid Yahoo email address.

The text on the Invite Members page says you can enter an email address. See the screen shot at Step 3 here:

SHAME on IO for not knowing this, and simply providing <[email protected]>.

Yeah, like you're the first person to ever try this.

And stupid of me to have pre-paid $220 (in STEP 1) without being able to execute Step 3.

Well, that may be true.

On that same wiki page see the section Test your ability to promote members in your Yahoo Group -- In Step 4 you have one more requirement beyond simply inviting the transfer address.
Shal


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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

Doug,

As several have and will point out, it's a valid ID that's been used by a very large number of Yahoo refugees. Just one thought, you have tried just [email protected]?rather than <[email protected]>?

Derek


Re: Merge Groups

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:08 PM, Greg Elmassian wrote:
Wouldn't it just take a json import function, since we already have an export function?
I think Mark's main concern is that folks might hijack a group or information they don't own or have rights to.

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Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

You cannot send an invitation? Are you a moderator or owner of the Yahoo group?

I just recently completed my 10th or so transfer, maybe Yahoo will no longer allow you to invite members?

I noticed things changed a bit on Yahoo groups, but I went to one of my Yahoo groups and I can still make invitations.

Greg


Re: Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:07 PM, Doug wrote:
SHAME on IO for not knowing this, and simply providing <[email protected]>
Thousands of groups have been transferred using the information, so I'm not sure what your problem is.? Try going to /g/GroupManagersForum/message/24431 and carefully following all the steps, IN ORDER.

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Re: Trouble opening files here that do open in Yahoo

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:07 PM, Susan B wrote:
there are many files she can open at yahoo but when she tries at groups io they won¡¯t open. And we can¡¯t figure out why.
The only files on GIO that may open in the browser are PDF.? All others require either a download or file extension association with a program on her computer.

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Re: Merge Groups

 

Wouldn't it just take a json import function, since we already have an export function?

(having an import function would also allow people to independently back up their forums, hint hint, useful)

Greg


Catch-22: Can't Transfer Yahoo Group

 

Unable to "invite" <[email protected]> to become a member of my existing Yahoo group, which is Step 3 in the transfer process.

To invite new members, Yahoo requires that they have a "Yahoo ID" [account] with a valid Yahoo email address.
SHAME on IO for not knowing this, and simply providing <[email protected]>.
And stupid of me to have pre-paid $220 (in STEP 1) without being able to execute Step 3.

I seek a way out of this, either:
1) Finding a way to invite a valid Yahoo-ID equivalent of <[email protected]>
or
2) Getting my money back, for blatant misrepresentation on the part of IO


Re: Trouble opening files here that do open in Yahoo

 

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Duane
I need to check further on this business of her seeing extensions. Maybe I misunderstood her. But I do know for sure she says there are many files she can open at yahoo but when she tries at groups io they won¡¯t open. And we can¡¯t figure out why.?

Thank you
Susan B



On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Susan B wrote:
We can¡¯t always see the extensions on our file titles. How can we make them visible? I mean like .doc, .txt and so on.
If they're not visible, they weren't included.? You can edit the file to include that.? Many (all?) browsers and operating systems allow you to set up default associations so that a particular program is used to open certain file extensions.? If none has been set up for a given situation, nothing happens.

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Re: Merge Groups

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:25 PM, Greg Elmassian wrote:
if I could only move messages from one to another that would be enough
Mark seems to be receptive to the idea of moving messages between a main group and it's subgroup(s), but isn't very enthusiastic about moving things between groups.? That would be a huge task to program (and debug) and would be waaaay down the road if it ever happened.

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