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Re: Edited messages

 

Dave,

It is not always clear why it has been edited, sometimes for trivial
typos, and usually only serves to increase the email inbox size (which
seems to have been quite high for this group of late!).
One can always click on the View/Reply Online link at the bottom of the emailed message, then on the right side click the Edited button, then the Compare Revisions button. For example, this message:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/3576

I think that in the case of an edit the comparison page should be emailed rather than the new message. In most cases that would make it clear whether the edit was trivial (e.g. spelling correction) or meaningful (e.g. inserting the missing word "not" or otherwise changing the meaning of the post). The downside is that the comparison is text-only, with the original formatting stripped, which in some cases may make it hard to read.

I'd also like access to the comparison from the pending edit.

Can we turn this option off - maybe on an individual basis (ie 'I
don't want to receive edited messages')?
That could be a dangerous choice in the case of an edit that changes the meaning of an important message. Safer is the option J fought for, to disable edits by members.

Shal


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Re: Edited messages

 

Many thanks, a setting I hadn't noticed. I have turned off editing in
my 3 groups, will wait to see if anybody complains..

Dave

On 15 Feb 2018 at 0:09, J_Catlady wrote:

Yes, you can turn it off in your group. It was a hard-won battle in
beta, but now even Mark has turned it off there.

I apologize for editing a message here today. I am so used to doing it
as a moderator in my group - moderators have the option to edit a
message without sending the edited message to the group - that I forgot
about the ramifications. I at least would have filled in the ~reason for
editTM box.

ITMve turned editing off in my own group for just the reasons you cite,
and was a hardcore early supporter of the option to disable it.


Re: Excluding fotos from transfer

J_Catlady
 

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Yes, it¡¯s possible. You specify exactly what you want transferred as a step in the transfer process.


On Feb 15, 2018, at 12:11 AM, Victoria Caesar <victoria.caesar@...> wrote:

Hello,

my yahoo group has hundreds of fotos of no more existing members. But deletion of fotos is a mess in yahoo groups, some of them impossible to delete. So I?d rather exlude fotos from being transferred to . Is this possible? Or does transfer mean all or nothing?

Regards

Victoria


Excluding fotos from transfer

 

Hello,

my yahoo group has hundreds of fotos of no more existing members. But deletion of fotos is a mess in yahoo groups, some of them impossible to delete. So I?d rather exlude fotos from being transferred to groups.io. Is this possible? Or does transfer mean all or nothing?

Regards

Victoria


Re: Edited messages

J_Catlady
 

Yes, you can turn it off in your group. It was a hard-won battle in beta, but now even Mark has turned it off there.

I apologize for editing a message here today. I am so used to doing it as a moderator in my group - moderators have the option to edit a message without sending the edited message to the group - that I forgot about the ramifications. I at least would have filled in the ¡®reason for edit¡¯ box.

I¡¯ve turned editing off in my own group for just the reasons you cite, and was a hardcore early supporter of the option to disable it.

On Feb 14, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Dave Sergeant <dave@...> wrote:

groups.io has a feature where people can edit existing messages in the
archives and a new version of that message is then distributed to the
group. The edited messages start with 'edited message follows'.

I can see the value of this, and it has happened several times today on
this group. But as an email only user I find it somewhat confusing,
quite often opening the edited version (or versions...) before I have
opened the original. It is not always clear why it has been edited,
sometimes for trivial typos, and usually only serves to increase the
email inbox size (which seems to have been quite high for this group of
late!).

Can we turn this option off - maybe on an individual basis (ie 'I don't
want to receive edited messages')? Of course I know the answer will be
no...

Dave






Re: New member introduction

 

I agree. I rejected a person's introduction as it was too short. They just said, and I kid you not, "hi." I told them to maybe ask a question then introduce themselves or something like that. I also reject "test" "testing" etc.

Take care

On Feb 14, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:

What about just putting new members on moderated status until the post an introduction. Some people like to feel comfortable before they introduce themselves. Introducing yourself in the unknown can be weird. What do I say? How much is too much.

If they are on moderation, you can check to see if have posted an introduction and if they haven¡¯t remind them. I think it would be less work.

Sharon

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Edited messages

 

groups.io has a feature where people can edit existing messages in the
archives and a new version of that message is then distributed to the
group. The edited messages start with 'edited message follows'.

I can see the value of this, and it has happened several times today on
this group. But as an email only user I find it somewhat confusing,
quite often opening the edited version (or versions...) before I have
opened the original. It is not always clear why it has been edited,
sometimes for trivial typos, and usually only serves to increase the
email inbox size (which seems to have been quite high for this group of
late!).

Can we turn this option off - maybe on an individual basis (ie 'I don't
want to receive edited messages')? Of course I know the answer will be
no...

Dave


Re: Messages not always emailed #issue

J_Catlady
 

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Southenders Admin <nnnlriep6@...> wrote:
I created a message to my trial group. The first time I posted it, the message showed up in my site message list, but did not go out as an email. I have set that topics must include a hashtag, and in the first iteration, I added the hashtag behind the subject. That post required me to approve it, which I did. It came up in my messages, but without a corresponding email to members.
When I reposted the message placing the hashtag at the front of the subject, the post and email went through correctly to all members.
Must the hashtag come first, before the subject?
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Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks. I understand what you're saying and it does make sense for many groups. However we are a friendly club for local/regional members only. So, we also use the introduction to filter out people that are not in our area. Our website has instructions on how to introduce yourself and what to include that pertains to the club.

Part of it is just the club's philosophy on becoming a part of this group of friends. The introduction is needed before "listening" to the conversation.?

I have not tried this but I think it is possible to reply to a request to join, so maybe we could send a reply asking for them to respond with an introduction before being added. Ideally we could customize and automate the initial response to requests.?

Thanks again for the suggestion.?

Jim?


Messages not always emailed #issue

Southenders Admin
 

I created a message to my trial group. The first time I posted it, the message showed up in my site message list, but did not go out as an email. I have set that topics must include a hashtag, and in the first iteration, I added the hashtag behind the subject. That post required me to approve it, which I did. It came up in my messages, but without a corresponding email to members.
When I reposted the message placing the hashtag at the front of the subject, the post and email went through correctly to all members.
Must the hashtag come first, before the subject?
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Re: E-mail Addresses and Footer

 

Thanks, Shal. Those issues didn't bother me, I just wanted to have some reasoning when I told the user I can't change them.

Thanks!
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Bryan J. Howell



From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] E-mail Addresses and Footer

Bryan,

> ... the e-mail addresses of people posting are being changed. For
> example, a post I made had the e-mail address as
> tubaman21=[email protected] and

That is done with Yahoo Mail and a few other email services. The short
story is that those email services don't want your messages delivered
through a mailing list, at least not under your name. The reasons are
basically the same as Yahoo Group's mangling of email From addresses.

If you want the long version, the keyword is DMARC.

> Is this a setting or what is going on here?

Nope, it is something you just have to live with.

> The second complaint I got was about the default footer. ... Is there
> a way to remove it or shorten it?

Nope. You can lengthen it with a group-specific footer, but you can't
shorten it.

Shal
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Re: New member introduction

 

On Feb 14, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Jim J via Groups.Io <Pupclub@...> wrote:
With Yahoo we required an introduction email to be sent to a separate email address and also the user had to request to join or be sent an invitation. It caused a lot of confusion. Once we received the introduction email and the user has joined the group The moderator would send the introduction to the entire group. Does anyone have an idea of how we might smooth out this process using groups.io?
What about just putting new members on moderated status until the post an introduction. Some people like to feel comfortable before they introduce themselves. Introducing yourself in the unknown can be weird. What do I say? How much is too much.

If they are on moderation, you can check to see if have posted an introduction and if they haven¡¯t remind them. I think it would be less work.

Sharon
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Re: E-mail Addresses and Footer

 

Bryan,

... the e-mail addresses of people posting are being changed. For
example, a post I made had the e-mail address as
tubaman21@... and
That is done with Yahoo Mail and a few other email services. The short story is that those email services don't want your messages delivered through a mailing list, at least not under your name. The reasons are basically the same as Yahoo Group's mangling of email From addresses.

If you want the long version, the keyword is DMARC.

Is this a setting or what is going on here?
Nope, it is something you just have to live with.

The second complaint I got was about the default footer. ... Is there
a way to remove it or shorten it?
Nope. You can lengthen it with a group-specific footer, but you can't shorten it.

Shal
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Re: photo albums

Nancy in Renton
 

Of all my photo album dreams, moving between albums rank right up there. Comments is the other one.

Our plan is to have a New Photos?album in the meantime. I¡¯d say probably to be deleted after a week (or month). People will load 2 photos - the same photo in it and their personal album.

One of our monitors loads photos into her personal album with a title starting from 999.
(Like 999 front view, 998 back view, 997 top view). That way her most recent picture is first in her album.

Nancy


E-mail Addresses and Footer

 

Hello,

Sorry if this has been previously addressed. I'm not having any luck searching the group archive. One of the groups I manage was transferred over today (yay!), however, I've already received a few complaints and wasn't sure if I messed up a setting or what. The first is that the e-mail addresses of people posting are being changed. For example, a post I made had the e-mail address as tubaman21@... and another as railroadshortlinescc@.... It appears that this is only happening with yahoo addresses. Is this a setting or what is going on here?

The second complaint I got was about the default footer. It doesn't bother me, but it bothered someone enough to complain. Is there a way to remove it or shorten it? Or is it a default that can't be changed?

Thanks!

Bryan J. Howell


New member introduction

 
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Our group is fairly new to groups.io and it's a *huge? improvement over Yahoo, which we used since it's early days.?

?We have a requirement that when someone joins our list they must first send an introduction email about themselves. ?This was a clunky multi step process with yahoo groups and I am looking for a better way.

With Yahoo we required an ?introduction email to be sent to a separate email address and also the user ?had to request to join or be sent an invitation. ?It caused a lot of confusion. ?Once we received the introduction email and the user has joined the group ?The moderator would send the introduction to the entire group.?

?Does anyone have an idea of how we might smooth out this process using groups.io?

Thanks for any ideas.?

Jim?


Re: Way off topic, I think

 

Actually you can use your own domain on the enterprise plan. Ask her/him if they would like to pay for it. ;)


Re: files

 

cheers will have to try to remember to remind people to read files each month
jackiep

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:33 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Nope. Not possible here except for the Group Guidelines (and that's not really a file). You have to use the calendar here for monthly sends.
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Re: Length of time to transfer group

 

i think a lot of people moving at the moment due to the problems with yahell as i like to call them and since nov theyve def lived up to that name. i just sent invite out and added link to email and copied stuff over myself and worked for me esp as didnt want to transfer all stuff as not as much storage on io
jackiep

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:10 AM, David Grimm <engrdave325@...> wrote:
Thanks for all who answered. Our request has been 5-6 days already. That's why I asked.?
Standing by.
Dave

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Re: photo albums

 

jackiep,

sorry dont know what that is and clicked on it and still no help

That's the official Groups.io TO-DO list. It isn't exactly helpful except to let us know what features might be chosen for development. So in this case it offers the hope that you'll be able to move photos between albums sometime in the unspecified future.

Duane wrote:
But it is on the TODO list,

Shal


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