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John,

But the ones in the middle which I can change from "post" down to
"help" do not even though they seem to show as blue in this response
from my cut and paste.

The text entry box for Message Footer addins in Settings page is plain text. Apparently Groups.io auto-linkifies http(s): URLs when the footer is inserted into a formatted email message, but does not do so with mailto: URLs.

The email interface of the member receiving the message may also play a role in this. Gmail's web interface, for example, auto-linkified the email address (showing "mailto:" as plain text). When that same message was seen in Thunderbird (via IMAP from Gmail) it did not linkify the email address of the mailto: URL.

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On 12 Jan 2020, at 20:20, Alex <acensor@...> wrote:

is there any way, our utility, for me to go directly into those inbox files and see the archives read them or search them or whatever?

Yes, Alex, they’re Mailboxes that you can simply insert / import / open in your Email Client.

Bear in mind you need enough disk space ;-)

David 1/2d

Chris, thank you very much. I had missed that phrase. I'll take that route.
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 04:28 PM, Jim Wells wrote:

I just blew it! ?I deleted my group...

Is there anything I can do? ?Any suggestions?

Jim -- The delete dialog clearly states that the action cannot be undone, and forces you to type "I understand" to complete the deletion. If any help is forthcoming on this, it will have to come from support ([email protected]). Please let us know what kind of response you get, for future reference.

Bruce

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 01:05 PM, Alex wrote:

# First , I noticed somewhere that groupsio does now offer an option for paid groups to import archives from MBOX files. So that basically raises my MAIN question is is it easier or better to (A) try importing the archives from the MBOX files or (B) the PG downloader files.
Can you educate me on the pros ?cons of method A vs B??

Alex -- You have three options, only two of which are currently available:

1. Lena's Perl script. This is free, and you can do it right now. The main downside is it requires quite a lot of savvy on your part to get it set up, and the posting dates are not retained. You also cannot reattach any attachments, if that's important to you.

2. The groups.io mbox import service. This retains both message ownership and proper posting dates, but not attachments. You will have to pay for Premium Yearly on the destination group ($220) to get them to do it. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/27438

3. PGO2GIO software. Rumor has it that this will reattach your message attachments, but like Lena's script, suffers from being unable to reconstruct the message "ownership" or posting date. It costs $50 (minimum), but at this point remains in beta testing, with no clear release date.

More information at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io#Uploading-a-message-archive?ff.

# I was a bit confused when I got the downloaded-from-yahoo zip.
i looked in there and there's AFAIK no way to tell which files were from which of the five groups that were in there.

The group names are at the end of each folder name within the large zip file. Locate the "IG" folder in your download and extract it. Within that extracted folder should be a "messages.zip" file containing all the mbox files. It's up to you to find the right ones and ensure they are operated on.

mbox files can be opened in Notepad or any other plain-text editor, but there will be a lot of header information and html, which confuses some people. If you want to read it as emails, you can open it as a mail folder in Thunderbird with the importexporttools add-on, in Apple Mail, and probably some other email clients, too.

As for importing, if you use Lena's Perl script, I suggest you practice on a subgroup first. That way you can just delete the subgroup and repeat until you get it working to your satisfaction. If you use groups.io's service, just make darn sure you tell Mark exactly which [sub]group is your intended destination, and provide the correct "messages.zip" file.

Regards,
Bruce

Hey all,

I just blew it! ?I deleted my group...

Is there anything I can do? ?Any suggestions?

I ‘thought’ I was deleting the old yahoo group, I had searched yahoo for my group’s name, and was so used to groups.io appearance that I didn’t realize I...

I know I can’t get it back, but maybe there’s some advice here?
jim

Tommy,

There's no real downside as such, other than an animated GIF being somewhat larger than a static (single-frame) GIF. Whether an animated GIF plays is entirely a function of the player (so the web browser for instance); most players that don't support the animation will just show the first frame. On that basis, if the cover picture isn't intended to convey information per se you're covered (pun intentional!). If it does - for instance it has a logo - just make sure that at least the first frame in the GIF is an 'information' frame.

Most (all?) modern browsers have supported GIF animation for some time. There are arguably better formats for animations, such as APNG, but they're less widely supported at the moment.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 01:27 PM, Duane wrote:

Enterprise groups can apparently use other names as aliases though, preventing someone else from using them.

This is also available at the Premium level. My primary group ias-indy has aliases of ias and indianaastronomicalsociety.

Bruce

Lin,

I believe it is possible.? WHY?? Our Yahoo group had 3 spin-offs.? Over there the names were nearly all the same thing.? Now, with Yahoo as a listserv and the owners are all gone, our membership chose to re-unite all of the groups back to one.? The sub-groups are all the splits for archive history and the main is going forward all UNITED.? :)

For our group, having another one with a similar name would be missing content and key members that have decades of experience.? Thus, another group with a similar name would be short lived not having resources nor subject experts in our hobby and farming skill sets with certain machines.
?
BMaverick

Hi Jonathan.
Thanks for your reply.
You wrote, regarding the inbox files in the zip that came from Yahoo,...
"...Look at the full name of the folders inside the zip file....."

I’ll take a look thanks.

I imagine that means that if/when I or groupsIO uses those MBOX files to Import the Archive into one of my newly created groupsIO groups I WILL be Able to specify exactly which inbox files to use an import from. Right?

BTW.... is there any way, our utility, for me to go directly into those inbox files and see the archives read them or search them or whatever?

Alex

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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 12:33 PM, Mark Levy wrote:

Problem solved.

Are you willing to share the solution?? It might help someone down the road.

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Look at the full name of the folders inside the zip file. They are very long and start out with meaningless (to me at least) numbers, but at the end of the folder name is the name of the group the files they contain came from.

Jonathan

Thank you, Duane and Rick. Problem solved.
Mark

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 09:28 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:

Given the knowledge of the terminology, I simply entered

comcast.net whitelist

into Google and received this many hits. Some said Comcast could whitelist a sender but not a domain ([email protected] but not [everything]@groups.io) by adding the sender to your address book.

?

But the one that seemed the most authoritative was this negative one at

Yup, but in every hit I found using those search terms, there was no useful information as to HOW to whitelist a sender, never mind a domain. And the second hit you linked above pointed part way to the solution I found, which was the source of my rant: once the mail goes into the Spam folder, I either have to read it on-line (which I pointed out is not my habit), or create a mechanism to move the "spam" back into the inbox so my email client recognizes it. Comcast does not help with any of that.

Dave

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM, Lin Duke wrote:

How is it possible for two groups to have identical names bar one dropping 'group' ?

As long as the complete name is different, they're different groups.? MyTestGroup, MyTest, MyGroup, and TestGroup are not the same.? Enterprise groups can apparently use other names as aliases though, preventing someone else from using them.

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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 05:57 PM, John McLachlan wrote:

If <new list> can't make a subgroup, wouldn't they just go and make another free group???

Oops; I think you may have spotted a loophole!

Chris

John,

But the ones in the middle which I can change from "post" down to "help" do not even though they seem to show as blue in this response from my cut and paste.

The custom footer one can set (like you have) doesn't really support what you are trying to do with email addresses.? It's more of a text-only box, no support for HTML or RichText like many of the other boxes like setting the group's description page, which has the formatting options on a ribbon at the top of the box.? The custom footer does have a very-very limited "live-link" functionality and that's only if you include a full URL with http(s)://... which it will recognize as a URL and make it active for you.? But it doesn't recognize the mailto: prefix for an email address so it doesn't make that an active link.

IMO, you should post this at the beta forum () as it can be considered missing functionality, after all it recognizes the HTTP: but not the MAILTO:, so it should be an easy fix/enhancement.

Cheers,
Christos