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Re: Easy Groups Transfer Qn

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 08:09 AM, Margaret Lee wrote:
if we transfer all our Messages from Yahoo Groups onto the Groups.io platform, messages currently in Yahoo Groups don't get deleted correct?
Nothing is changed on the YG.? Transfer copies the information needed.

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Re: Can not get transfer request to show up in the "In Process" list

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 07:25 AM, Darci wrote:
Can you tell me the best location to report problems with your account, is it the bug reporting link support@..., or should I use the beta group?
I think I know why everything went south and is in limbo land but I think I need something in my account reset.
Support is probably your best bet.? You're welcome to contact me off list, using a Private Reply, with more detail if you think I might be able to help in any way.

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Re: How are you guys seeing your transfer status? #transfer

 

You'll get there.? It took my group a week.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 9:03 PM Brad Walrod <brad@...> wrote:
Ah, so I did look in the right place. But I¡¯m only at?

Your group is awaiting export from Yahoo. [Step 1 of 4]

I covet being far enough along to be assigned a number!

Thanks again,
Brad



On Oct 24, 2019, at 8:28 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:



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Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

 

On Step 1 (below), I entered?/?which took me to?/groups?
There is no (Step 2) "Easy Group Transfer" at the bottom of the page.?
So I clicked on "Create a Group" at the top of the page and created my new group.
Now what? do I continue with "Upgrade to Premium"?

Ruth D


On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 08:57:08 AM EDT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


[Edited Message Follows]

Folks -- Appended below please find detailed instructions on how to conduct a transfer using the Easy Group Transfer method.

See also the new FAQ at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups
To check status of an ongoing transfer:??/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948

I will be re-posting this periodically for the benefit of all the new people that continue to flood in. My apologies for the inevitable dupes in your email inbox.

Regards,
Bruce

Here is the process. It is not fully automated and will take several days. Do not do anything out of order.

  1. Go here:?/
  2. At the bottom of the page, you'll find a link that says "Easy Group Transfer." Click it.
  3. Scroll to the bottom of the subsequent page and click on the big blue button labelled "Yahoo Group Instructions."
  4. You should be at?/yahootransfer. Read the instructions carefully, including all the Notes. Bookmark this page, too. You will come back here several times.

  5. Create your groups.io group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation [NOTE: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.]?
  6. To use the Easy Group Transfer, you must upgrade the group to the Premium Yearly plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
    To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of $110 $220) and make your payment.?
    (You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)

  7. Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
  8. Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your groups.io group in their respective boxes. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off[email protected] or @yahoogroups.co.uk), just the group names.
  9. Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
    (You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)

  10. Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your groups.io group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]." If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
  11. Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers menu at bottom right (pull down the menu and click on the group name). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it should say: "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite." If it doesn't say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 10 above and try again.?
    (You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)

  12. BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
  13. BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do not send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
  14. You will eventually receive an email stating that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted. Continue waiting until you receive this email.
    (You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)

  15. Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
  16. Return to the groups.io page that you bookmarked in #4 above one more time. Once again, pull down the Existing Transfers menu at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button.?
    (You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)

  17. BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right?
  18. You may notice some activity in your new groups.io group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process. Do not panic. This is what you wanted to happen!
  19. When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from groups.io summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer. Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
  20. Rejoice.
Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Transferring a Yahoo Group to Groups.io #yahoo #transfer #askmembers

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:32 AM, lady.dove@... wrote:
it stated that I have to be a premium member- which I am albeit? at $110.00
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Am I to pay another $200.00???? to get a subgroup transferred?
You shouldn't.? The $200 fee is to expedite a transfer.? Apparently there have been some glitches with transferring to a subgroup.? I'd start the process, if it's available, to see if this effects you.

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Easy Groups Transfer Qn

 

Just want to confirm-- if we transfer all our Messages from Yahoo Groups onto the Groups.io platform, messages currently in Yahoo Groups don't get deleted correct?? We want to test out the system with just the moderators first before bringing all our members over (of course, they only have a couple of days to view old messages anyway).? ? How long are the actual transfers taking people?


Re: Can not get transfer request to show up in the "In Process" list

 

Moderator,
After digging around I can understand why you might not want to post the official answer to my question in the previous post to keep that location from being swamped with items that should not be going there, I'm fine if you want to remove this and my previous post.

Darci


Re: Transfer status of Yahoo members?

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 08:30 PM, <genemike1@...> wrote:
Will the status of Yahoo group members be transferred, i.e., Owner, Moderator?
I don't think they are, you need to set those after the transfer.

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Plans for Relational Databases? #database

 

Any plans to add relational database functionality, or is it already present and I'm missing it?

Use case example. We host a yearly gaming event where people like to mark what games they'd like to play so they can self-organize.? Ideally, this includes the following tables:

1) Games
2) Players
3) Want to Play (a join table, noting each instance of? ?Player + Game they want to play)

We can accomplish this with a "flat" table of games and a column of "Players" where people can add their names/initials, but that's prone to errors (people accidentally erasing previous players, etc.)

Also open to hearing of other options to address this.? Thank you!


Re: reading exported Groups.io group data

 

Thanks, Bill.

I will try this in the next couple of days.

Much appreciated.

Isis


Re: member reimbursements

 

I (for my group) and other groups I'm joined with have just solicited paypal payments.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:23 AM Jeff <jeff@...> wrote:

Good morning

Our group, [email protected] is made up of members living in Europe and North America, for the most part. We will be upgrading to the premium level. Those funds will be provided by one of our owners. We would like to set up a mechanism for reimbursing him by our members. What is the best way to do that?

Thanks

Jeff Sully

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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user

Mark Cubitt
 

Thanks Chris.

I have confirmed with the member involved that he is using Microsoft Office Outlook as his email client.

Mark

Sent from my mobile


On 25 October 2019 13:18:44 BST, "Chris Jones via Groups.Io" <chrisjones12@...> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 08:06 PM, I wrote:
This was reported to BT a few weeks ago but AFAIK there has been no resolution to it yet.
I have just confirmed that the above remains the case. I have contacted the person who reported the problem to BT but he has heard nothing more either directly or via a backdoor route. To be best of my understanding the problem is one that might spark a bit of interest from Ofcom (for non - UK readers Ofcom is the "media" regulator) if only because BT has failed to report back to the originator even though he has a log number for his report.

I carried out a quick test this morning and can confirm that the misrouting is still happening.

Chris


Re: Can not get transfer request to show up in the "In Process" list

 

ok, Thanks Duane,
I didn't skip any step, did you really think a person that finds issues with one of this groups help page (miss placed period) is the sort of person to skip a step?
Can you tell me the best location to report problems with your account, is it the bug reporting link support@..., or should I use the beta group?
I think I know why everything went south and is in limbo land but I think I need something in my account reset.

Darci


another question regarding transfer

 

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I am not tec stupid, but ..

I have made IOtransfer a moderator.

The next step in the instructions says:

After you have made the [email protected] member a moderator, return here, select your Existing Transfer transfer, and tell us that you are ready for the transfer to happen. Your group must be signed up for the Premium Yearly plan. ?(which I did pay for)

When I select the yahoo group, it opens:?/edittransfer

in the green box at the top, it says: The transfer process has been updated.

Is that it?

Trying hard to not bother all the wonderful answer people, but ¡­.


With thanks

Rhoda Ezell


Re: Transfer Status

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:49 AM, Bill Burns wrote:
read Mark's own account of groups.io, which has been live for just over
five years now:

Wow!? Shows how the memory plays tricks.? My group started on ONElist in May1999 and I would have sworn blind that we were on that for at least year before it merged with eGroups, and then a year or more before the Yahoo takeover!? I'm sure time went slower back then than it does now!

I'm sad to say that the group that was actually my intoduction to ONElist doesn't seem to be making the move to Io.

Penny


member reimbursements

 

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Good morning

Our group, [email protected] is made up of members living in Europe and North America, for the most part. We will be upgrading to the premium level. Those funds will be provided by one of our owners. We would like to set up a mechanism for reimbursing him by our members. What is the best way to do that?

Thanks

Jeff Sully

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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 08:06 PM, I wrote:
This was reported to BT a few weeks ago but AFAIK there has been no resolution to it yet.
I have just confirmed that the above remains the case. I have contacted the person who reported the problem to BT but he has heard nothing more either directly or via a backdoor route. To be best of my understanding the problem is one that might spark a bit of interest from Ofcom (for non - UK readers Ofcom is the "media" regulator) if only because BT has failed to report back to the originator even though he has a log number for his report.

I carried out a quick test this morning and can confirm that the misrouting is still happening.

Chris


Re: Odd situation - Yahoo says transfer@ has accepted, status doesn't #transfer

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 02:43 AM, Su wrote:
I got emails from Yahoo saying that [email protected] had accepted invitations to both groups that I am getting transferred.
Yahoo has no way of knowing that a transfer is going on. Are you sure this didn't come from groups.io?

But I have NOT yet received an email from Groups.io, nor does the transfer status indicate that it has been accepted. (i.e. it still reads "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.")
You should continue to wait until this status changes. Due to the way transfers are being managed now, it seems there may be some delay after groups.io accepts the invitation and your transfer advances to the next step of the process.

Is it OK to go ahead and promote the user to Moderator on the Yahoo groups?
Yes...but don't click the "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button until the status changes (not sure that you can, anyway).

Are any particular mod permissions needed?
No.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Odd situation - Yahoo says transfer@ has accepted, status doesn't #transfer

 

On 25/10/2019 5:38 pm, Su wrote:
What does this mean? I got emails from Yahoo saying that [email protected] had accepted invitations to both groups that I am getting transferred. But I have NOT yet received an email from Groups.io, nor does the transfer status indicate that it has been accepted. (i.e. it still reads "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.")

Is it OK to go ahead and promote the user to Moderator on the Yahoo groups? Are any particular mod permissions needed?

Thanks,
Su

Although the step-by-step implies it's meant to be fairly instantaneous between making the agent a mod and getting the option to progress, it seems to take half a day before the system generates the email prompting you to decide to authorise the transfer.

[Mod Note: This reflects recent changes to the way in which transfers are queued. It remains advisable to refrain from attempting to give the transfer the "go ahead" until you receive the email.]

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Re: Changing paid plan

Kent B. Lewis
 

Go to Admin the billing, look for the options.?

I did the same thing. Just a note, I signed up under the old monthly pricing last week, and when I went to change to Yearly the only option was the new pricing. I went ahead and did that, and then got a note later saying I would only be charged the old plan price of $110, on the next billing cycle.?

Your results may vary

God luck
Kent

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 9:59 PM scottishceli <ScottishCeli@...> wrote:
Yes, it's my own fault.? I signed up for the one month plan and then found I needed to sign up for the 1 year plan in order to do the transfer from my Yahoo group.? How do I change that?

Cecelia Mercer



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