Glenn - No, the From field on emails is the actual poster's email address which will not be "[email protected]".? Peter's post comes in as:

Hello, Shal and anyone who knows,

We just transferred in a large group and one of our members has indicated
a concern with receiving group posts.? As he put it:

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There is a significant difference in how the new host sends out group messages.?
Namely, the new host sends them “?From:?“ each individual SBL member rather than
“?From:?[email protected]."?
By consequence, the messages get blocked by the spam filter.?
Whitelisting?[email protected]?does not help because the messages are not sent
by?[email protected]. ?They are sent?“?From:?“?1,500 individual accounts.

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Before?the changeover, the mails were?From: <group name@...>

Now, the mails are?From: Individual name <persons-email@...>, or whomever.
Anyone with a rigorous filter — which some of us need — is not currently receiving any messages.

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I'm not sure how to help.? No one else has yet indicated a problem with this.

Thank you,

Peter

I don't know what system he writes his "rigorous" filters in, but my MUA allows for wildcard filters, so it would just be "*@groups.io" for all 1,500 of them.

Best,

Glenn

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 12:37 pm, Jim Pruitt wrote:

I go into my account in groups.io and add a signature block and enable it

Have you enabled it for "Use Signature For Email Posting" or only "Use Signature For Web Posting"?? Don't forget that it's part of your Subscription (left menu) settings for each group.? What you set for this group won't be the same on another group unless you set it that way.

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Hello, Shal and anyone who knows,

We just transferred in a large group and one of our members has indicated
a concern with receiving group posts.? As he put it:

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?
(Begin quote)

There is a significant difference in how the new host sends out group messages.?
Namely, the new host sends them “?From:?“ each individual SBL member rather than
“?From:?[email protected]."?
By consequence, the messages get blocked by the spam filter.?
Whitelisting?[email protected]?does not help because the messages are not sent
by?[email protected]. ?They are sent?“?From:?“?1,500 individual accounts. Now, the mails are?From: Individual name <persons-email@...>, or whomever.
Anyone with a rigorous filter — which some of us need — is not currently receiving any messages.

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I'm not sure how to help.? No one else has yet indicated a problem with this.

Thank you,

Peter

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Oath has been requiring users to accept a new privacy agreement, pledging to hold Oath blameless for any misuse of your personal information stored by Oath.? Oath would not let me access my?AOL e-mail until I accepted? the new privacy agreement; holding them blameless in the future.? It has appeared several times as a pop-up.? I ignored it when it happened with lists on YahooGroups; however in order to continue using my AOL mail account I had to pledge to hold them blameless; hence the Oath Pledge, as others have called it.

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On 6/18/2018 12:14 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

Jim,

Can you tell me how to add to and modify the footer that is appended
to each message?

The first item in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page is a text box where you can enter a group-specific addition to the message footers.

See here for examples of what it looks like. Approximately, the footers have been changed a bit this week, but the page hasn't yet been updated to match.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers#Group-specific-addition-to-the-footer

I looked at that link but I do not see any specifics other than inserting some text.? Do I need to use html coding to insert the url or is it just typed out as normal text then hope that it gets converted to html hot link?

I would like to add a link to the files section for the group, the
photos section, and a specific web site.? Can that be done? How?

Enter the plain text URL of the links. In HTML formatted messages that will be automatically converted to a link (as shown in the example). In plain text messages it will be passed as plain text (of course), whether it displays as an active link depends on the receiving member's email interface.

I also some a comment in one of the messages this weekend that spoke
of the user selected signature not getting inserted.

Seems to be working fine on my messages, at least as I see them. We may need more detail on the circumstances to understand what's happening. Are you looking in the group's Messages section, or in your email interface? What email interface? Any special settings? I seem to recall that there may have been a bug with viewing formatted messages in plain text, but I thought that had been fixed.

The problem I have been running into is that I go into my account in groups.io and add a signature block and enable it but it does not appear in messages that I might post.? Am I to assume that my email client is responsible for that and nothing to do with groups.io settings I might have chosen?? My email client is Thunderbird.? I have not tried doing a message via web to see if it adds it then.

Thank you.

Jim

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Just wanted to edit an older message (April) - but the "Format Bar" (which?
is right there NOW on every new message) is not available. The Bar that?
contains "Bold, Italic, et al." Is there a way to add "Bold" font to an older message?

Thanks, Bruce.? Good to know, I'll let my list mods know as well.
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Ken -- Where can one find this "Oath pledge?" When I type it into a search engine I get all kinds of stuff about the flag.

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Very recently on several groups.io lists I moderate, I am seeing list members with aol.com e-mail addresses unsubscribed (groups.io e-mail flagged as spam by their e-mail provider), most immediately rejoin with the same?AOL e-mail address.??

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About a month ago Oath?blocked e-mail?delivery to my aol e-mail account unless I took the OATH pledge to hold Oath blameless no matter what.??I took the Oath pledge and my e-mail delivery resumed.

For those unfamiliar with Oath; it is a new company created after Verizon acquired Yahoo and AOL.? It's business plan is as a mobile media provider and to?date it has been unclear about plans of YahooGroups and the e-mail providers it acquired.? What has been clear recently is that Oath has gone from dormant to aggressive.? They certainly have the ability to identify Oath customers who have left Oath for lists on Google, Facebook, and groups.io? ?Of those three list host competitors, groups.io is definitely the weakest and most vulnerable.? And if your e-mail provider is now part of Oath or controlled by Oath and you haven't taken the Oath pledge; Oath's current action may seem like harassment.

I fully understand those who won't take the Oath pledge, when as a list owner on YahooGroups, I refused; However delivery of my AOL e-mail was a different story and I surrendered.? If you do not want to take the Oath pledge, I recommend getting a non-Oath e-mail account and using that for your list membership on groups.io

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On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 11:56 pm, Jim Pruitt wrote:

Can you tell me how to add to and modify the footer that is appended to each message?? I would like to add a link to the files section for the group, the photos section, and a specific web site.? Can that be done?? How?

See Admin->Settings->Message Formatting->Message Footer. I would like to have an html editor here, so we can create real links; but at this time you can only insert the full URL as plain text and cross your fingers that each recipient's email client will "linkify" it for you.?

Another thing to keep in mind is that any links to your files or photos sections will NOT WORK unless the subscriber is already logged in (they will be redirected to the login page). Clicking a link that takes you someplace you don't expect to go may be more confusing than helpful. A link to an external web site should work fine, however.??

Hope this helps,
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Scott,

But is there a way to upload a list of emails to remove?

Yes. See the Bulk Remove button on your group's Members page. In the row of three buttons above the list.

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Jim,

Can you tell me how to add to and modify the footer that is appended
to each message?

The first item in the Message Formatting section of your group's Settings page is a text box where you can enter a group-specific addition to the message footers.

See here for examples of what it looks like. Approximately, the footers have been changed a bit this week, but the page hasn't yet been updated to match.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers#Group-specific-addition-to-the-footer

I would like to add a link to the files section for the group, the
photos section, and a specific web site. Can that be done? How?

Enter the plain text URL of the links. In HTML formatted messages that will be automatically converted to a link (as shown in the example). In plain text messages it will be passed as plain text (of course), whether it displays as an active link depends on the receiving member's email interface.

I also some a comment in one of the messages this weekend that spoke
of the user selected signature not getting inserted.

Seems to be working fine on my messages, at least as I see them. We may need more detail on the circumstances to understand what's happening. Are you looking in the group's Messages section, or in your email interface? What email interface? Any special settings? I seem to recall that there may have been a bug with viewing formatted messages in plain text, but I thought that had been fixed.

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Can you tell me how to add to and modify the footer that is appended to each message?? I would like to add a link to the files section for the group, the photos section, and a specific web site.? Can that be done?? How?

I also some a comment in one of the messages this weekend that spoke of the user selected signature not getting inserted.? I am running into that problem.? Even though a specific signature is enabled it does not get inserted at the bottom of user messages.

Thank you.

Jim

Dale,

He has tried numerous email logon's and can't get in.
... We may have to work harder on the issue of restoring the owner's
log in ability.

Look in your Y!group's Manage Members list, on the Moderators tab, and see what is listed for him in the Yahoo Profile column. The one with a blue crown, if he has more than one entry in the list.

That's the ID he needs to use to sign in as owner. Nevermind that the sign-in form now requests an email address, it still accepts the original Yahoo IDs.

I assume "Mark" is the head of Groups.io?

Yes, Mark Fletcher.
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Click the link to the Groups.io announcement for more detail on the origin story.

So far, I haven't even set up the new group on groups.io, preferring
to ask questions first to make sure the direction we are going is
correct.

Ask away. I hope we can help.

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June,

I have sent out invitations to new members but when they respond to
the email as in the instructions noted below, they don't seem to get
added.

"Seem"? - you should be able to tell for certain: look at the Sent Invitations tab of your group's Invite page. Or look in the Member Activity tab of your group's Activity log or the Members list itself to see if they appear.

I just tested replying to an invitation by email and it worked so there doesn't seem to be a general problem with the invitations. Both the From address and the Reply-To field of the invitation are set to the special address described by Bruce, so it should work correctly with just about any email interface's interpretation of "Reply".

If the members who didn't get added to the group are still waiting you could ask them to CC you (at your personal email address) on their reply to the next invitation you send them. That would let you carefully check their reply for whatever error they (or their email interface) might be making.

Or just advise them to use the link instead.

Shal


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On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 07:41 pm, Patty Sliney wrote:

Does anyone know how long it takes for messages and/or digests to stop being sent to someone who has unsubscribed?

It's pretty much immediate, from what I've seen.

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Ahh. I absolutely understand.
Thanks for the explanations.
Estelle

Simple question:? Does anyone know how long it takes for messages and/or digests to stop being sent to someone who has unsubscribed?? I know with Y!G, it could take up to 48 hours.? Is there a timeframe for message/digest stoppage on Groups.io? I looked in the Help section, but did not see anything on that page that answered this question.? Thanks!
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