Toby,

yes, in the message footer (via email), on the web interface:

Thanks for the excellent reply. I hadn't noticed that hashtags shown on the web were now drop-menus. Oh, but only when you open them, not in the list. We still seem to lack a way to mute/follow topics from a group's Messages section.

And oops. The fact that one can mute those from the group's Messages on the web is missing from the help page. Care to add that to our mock-up? And a screen shot for the footer too, while you're at it.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Help-Mock-up

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Dan,

Is there a way for a member to mute (hide? unfollow?) an entire
hashtag?

Yes.

"Mute" is the correct word in Groups.io, for members who otherwise receive all messages. "Unfollow" has a different meaning, for members who chose "Following only" as their Message Selection.

Messages with a hashtag contain a link in the footer to Mute that hashtag. Or one can mute them through the groups.io home page. /static/help#muting

What I'm looking for is a way for them to just say "mute hashtag
#Lightroom" (say as a button on each hashtag on the hashtag page) ...

Adding Mute and Follow functions to each group's Hashtags page sounds like a great idea to drop into the "suggestion box" (beta):

We'd still want those messages to appear in the web interface, just
not be delivered via email (individual or summary).

I think you mean "individual or digest". Muted topics and hashtags are omitted from them. I'm not sure about the summary, I think it ignores Mute/Follow and simply lists all topics.

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yes, in the message footer (via email), on the web interface:

Is there a way for a member to mute (hide? unfollow?) an entire hashtag?

In the group for our camera club there are many conversatkions (threads) on different subjects.? For example, on Photoshop, or Lightroom or competitions, etc.? If someone, say, doesn't use Lightroom they consider emails pertaining to Lightroom as unwanted email clutter.? I know they can mute individual conversations using the "Mute this Topic" button at the bottom of such an email but they have to do this for each unique conversation related to Lightroom.? What I'm looking for is a way for them to just say "mute hashtag #Lightroom"? (say as a button on each hashtag on the hashtag page) that would just not send them emails pertaining to conversations containing that hashtag.? We'd still want those messages to appear in the web interface, just not be delivered via email (individual or summary).

Thanks -- Dan

I have sent out invitations to new members but when they respond to the email as in the instructions noted below, they don't seem to get added.? Am I missing a step somewhere?? The ones that use the link to the website get added just fine.

"To accept the invitation, please reply to this email, or you may accept the invitation on the website.

Thanks for your help!
June

Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: Seperate Footers group setting, places the footer in a seperate
mime chunk, needed to support PGP signatures.

A new one on me, I didn't see any word about it in beta.

I can guess that this might make it possible for members to sign their messages and not have the appended footer invalidate the signature.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

BUGFIX: Special/HTML characters in event names/descriptions were not
handled correctly in the generated ICS files.
NEW: 'Allow group members to download the message archives' setting.
CHANGE: When following a thread, insert standard message footers when
we send out the initial messages.
BUGFIX: Footers for messages sent because we're following a thread now
have the unfollow link.
BUGFIX: Wiki TOC links were broken if they contained special
characters like parentheses.
CHANGE: Slight tweaks to html footers and full digests.

Please call out any you find significant.

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Patty,

Thanks, Shal, didn't realize the Wiki pages were public.

That's a group option, in the Features section of the Settings page. The Wiki is one of the few features that can be made visible to the public. I think the Calendar is the only other.

Hoping Mark will bring that feature back, and allow list mods to make
the comment a mandatory field (simple check box in the Settings).

"Back" is kind of an odd word, because the feature has never existed in Groups.io, but I know what you mean: it was a feature you liked about Y!Groups and you want it "back".

There's a wish-list item for it, and a lot of discussion over the years in the beta group. I think the form Mark is thinking about is a special database table (moderators only access) where the "Apply For Membership In This Group" button brings up a page that includes the set of entry boxes to fill in the equivalent of an "Add Row" to that database.

This way the group moderators would have complete control over what type of information to request and how it is described just by configuring the table to have the columns they want. The database table would then contain a record of all the membership requests.

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Michael,

A Comment field in the Membership application with instructions that I
can set on the Comment Field would be best.

There's a wish-list item for that.


What we have now is the Member Notice for Pending Subscription, which Victoria mentioned as a second step:
/static/help#member-notices

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Pablo,

... about 2 weeks a go got a message from one user that can't post
messages. The user was OK until then and no changes were made on the
group. I reset his subscription, with the same privileges of the
other users but keeps getting bouncing messages.

I think Bruce is probably right that the member is sending from the wrong address.

One thing the member can do is look at the footer of a recent message from the group - as of last week they contain the subscribed email address after the Unsubscribe link. That's the address the member normally must send from (absent the use of an Alias posting address).

You may be able to confirm that the member used the wrong address by looking at the Message Activity tab in your group's Activity log. Select "Non-subscriber message" in the Actions box and click the Search button. If there are entries during the time frame the member attempted to post, see if you can match up any of the addresses with that member.

As a second check, put the member's subscription address in the Search box, select "All actions", click Search and see if there are any other bounce causes listed during the time frame where the member could not post.

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Patty,

One of our list members has asked why, in the Digest, the messages
that are replies to previous messages do not have the previous message
below the reply?

The intent is to prevent the build-up of trailing quotes. In groups where members don't habitually trim the trailing quotes you can have the opposite problem: those quotes can stack up under each message making the digest very repetitive and hard to follow.

When the feature was first implemented I suggested that the software might try to preserve one trailing quote, but auto-trim the rest. I don't know if the suggestion was considered unnecessary or even undesirable, or perhaps too difficult to implement reliably, but whatever the case it was not taken up.

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I'm sorry if this may have been asked and answered, I tried searching several times, but couldn't find the answer:? One of our list members has asked why, in the Digest, the messages that are replies to previous messages do not have the previous message below the reply?? She commented that it can be hard to follow the thread without that previous message copied below the reply.? Is there a logic behind this?? I know you can click on "View/Reply Online" to be taken to that message thread on the list.? But, you wouldn't want to do that a bunch of times with various messages in a digest, just to get sort of "sync'ed" back into the message thread.
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 10:14 am, Pablo wrote:

I? reset his subscription, with the same privileges of the other users but keeps getting bouncing messages.

He's probably posting from the wrong email account. Check his user record again and be sure to tell him which email address to use.

If he wants to post from more than one email address he will have to set up one of them as an alias. Have him click on his name at upper right and select Account. Then pull down the "Advanced Settings for Email Aliases" menu near the bottom of the resulting page. Here he can add a second address. Note that this will be an alternate, send-only email address...all group messages will still be received at the primary address.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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A Comment field in the Membership application with instructions that I can set on the Comment Field would be best.

I tell and send written instructions that say:
NO APPROVALS WITHOUT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME IN THE COMMENT BOX
but what I usually get is nothing or the story why the unnamed person wants to join.

Bruce,? (revisited this from another post)
"downloadable file" depends in large part what the web server sends the browser.? ?In the discussion that follows, this is what happens on Groups.io.
When you click on a PDF file, the server sends a response containing "Content-Type: application/pdf" - if you have a plug in in the browser registered that says "I know what to do with a PDF file, let me handle it", the browser hands it off to the PDF viewer.
When you click on a DOC file, the server sends "Content-Disposition: attachment; Content-Type: application/msword" and as I have no plugin to view "msword", the browser brings up the "Save As..." dialog to save the attachment.
When you click the Export database button though, the server sends a standard html page with "Content-Type: text/plain" - the browser does not receive anything that it could interpret as a "file", only text to be displayed.? So the onus is on the user to take that text and massage it into some other format such as a document, spreadsheet, whatever.? Fortunately the text is in CSV format so turning that raw text into a structured file is pretty straightforward.
My then is to enhance the Export function to generate and send an actual "file" rather than display the text in a browser window (which becomes cumbersome or even impossible on large databases).
Thanks
Toby

Hello.
?I have a small group for PBEM wargaming, the groups has worked fine but about 2 weeks a go got a message from one user that can't post messages.? The user was OK until then and no changes were made on the group.? I? reset his subscription, with the same privileges of the other users but keeps getting bouncing messages.
Please help.
Thanks
Pablo

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 07:49 am, Patty Sliney wrote:

The only thing I miss is a the Comment field in the Membership application.

Are you making use of the Pending Membership message? (This has been raised in another topic recently.) If you set one up then prospective members can be invited to reply with "reasons why they wish to join the Group", but it only works with groups that are restricted, where moderators have to approve each applicant.

It also seems to be a good way of sorting out the "real" applicants from the possibly bogus ones; at a rough guess on the group I moderate only 50% of applications trigger a response to the Pending Subsciption message; the other 50% finish up either being deleted manually or by simply timing out.

Chris

Thanks, Shal, didn't realize the Wiki pages were public.? A new feature I'm still learning a little bit about.? So many nice, neat new things on Groups.IO.? The only thing I miss is a the Comment field in the Membership application.? We used that very heavily for several reasons.? Hoping Mark will bring that feature back, and allow list mods to make the comment a mandatory field (simple check box in the Settings).

Patty Sliney

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