On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 01:13 am, Shal Farley wrote:

Each event has a time zone, I'd expect the notice for an all day event to go out at midnight on the day of, in the timezone of the event. Of course that will be later in the day for timezones east of the event.

Each subscriber account also has its own time zone, and many groups have subscribers worldwide. Is the expectation that a single all-day event will generate [up to] 24 different notices, one for each set of subscribers in that zone? What happens with Google and other sites that attempt to do calendaring?

Bruce

No, not another post morning about the time this takes :)

Our archive is about 40,000 messages—has anyone transferred anything of this size or greater? Problems?

What happens to the Yahoo side? I presume it is a copy of the archive that is taken and the original one is left in place (I think we would like to post digests from group.io to Yahoo so we have a backup).

Paul Fraser

On 05/13/2018 05:02 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

think a certain member would have the answers,

Thinking out loud... It could simply forward the message to them, but
that might be pretty annoying on the receiving end if a bunch of members
all thought of you. So maybe it should be limited to one such
notification per topic per day to a given member.

I've probably received half a dozen such emails this month, that were
marked as read, despite never being opened. I'd probably answer them, if
there was something that can be easily filtered on (^1).

I've read at least five such emails this month, that I didn't have time
to adequately answer when read, and am unable to find today. :(

The issue being that there is nothing that can be filtered on, that
doesn't have either an unacceptably high "false positive" rate, or an
equally unacceptable "false negative" rate. Granted, the email filtering
tools of 2018 are absolutely primitive, compared to what was available
in 1998.

At present I think you'd have to use an off-list email message to that member.

That might work, if the email is neither a CC nor a BCC. Gmail has a
tendency to delete emails that contain the same Message-ID.

OTOH, for most of my email addresses, if a message precedence isn't
"bulk", "list", or "junk", it gets auto-deleted, and thus, the separate
email would never reach me.


^1: It seems utterly bizarre to me, that email filtering in 1998 could
do more things, more easily, than in 2018.


jonathon

Abby,

Sorry for the delayed reply.

Our calendar Timezone is set to Eastern Time (UTC - 5:00).

Our all-day events are marked to send a *notice* when the event
occurs. This seems to be sent at 3 PM Eastern time, ...

My group is Pacific, and the notices arrive at 12:00 am the day of an all-day event - which is what I'd expect.

If yours had arrived at 3 am I'd have assumed that maybe there was a bug and the notice was sent at Pacific time because that's the default for Groups.io (headquartered in California). But 3 pm is just... mysterious.

1) Is there a way to change this for notices or do I need to change
all the events to send reminders instead of notices?

Each event has a time zone, I'd expect the notice for an all day event to go out at midnight on the day of, in the timezone of the event. Of course that will be later in the day for timezones east of the event.

Maybe if your group is worldwide you need to set all day events to the furthest east: (UTC+13:00) Samoa.

I realize that I can try a couple of events to work this out myself
but I don't want to jam our members' Inboxes, so it would be helpful
to know when this event occurs.

If you haven't already worked it out, feel free to experiment in my test group, there you'll not disturb anyone.


If you have already worked it out, please report your results.

Shal


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Mohamed,

I'm not sure if it is possible, but does anyone know if you can tag
certain users in a certain topic or message?

There's no feature like that, but I think that's a good idea. You might want to post it in the official "suggestion box" (the beta list):


What exactly would the feature do?

Thinking out loud... It could simply forward the message to them, but that might be pretty annoying on the receiving end if a bunch of members all thought of you. So maybe it should be limited to one such notification per topic per day to a given member.

It should certainly feed in to the future notification system (the long awaited "notification overhaul" - which is hoped to handle notifications for both web and email users), but maybe it could be a stand-alone feature until then.

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At present I think you'd have to use an off-list email message to that member. As a moderator/owner you can initiate such a message from the group's Members list. As a group member you may be able to make a direct message from the group's Directory - if that feature is enabled in the group and if that the member in question has made their profile visible to you in the directory.

And of course if you use the site by email you could forward the message of interest to that person directly, assuming you know their email address (perhaps from a previous posting by that person).

Shal


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I'm not sure if it is possible, but does anyone know if you can tag certain users in a certain topic or message? You might read a message and you think a certain member would have the answers, it would be nice if you can tag them cause they might have emails turned off, not notice the message, or not following the topic...

Is there a way to achieve this?

I have members (especially new) posting in the parent group even though it should be in the subgroup and vice versa. Maybe it can be both but a Moderator might believe it is better suited in a certain area.

Seems simple enough to do?

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John,

At Duane's suggestion, I've created an updated and corrected version
of this procedure in the wiki:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo

I've added a link to it on the Wiki home page, and added some introductory material.

Shal


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Tom,

... is quite annoying to get bounced email just because a user or
message was already approved.

I find this so disconcerting that I've ceased (for the most part) approving by email (as I still do frequently for Y!Groups). That works for me because I'm either at a desktop or smartphone and in either case getting to the Pending list is a single click on the included link. YMMV.

How about just accepting the email and killing it instead of bouncing
it.

Suggest it in beta and see if Mark does it or comments on it.

I'm not sure if I'd be lured back to approve-by-email now. I've grown accustomed to seeing the list of pending messages and maybe noticing
duplicate or follow-on messages by the same member in the same topic.

So much so that I've not reported the bug that the link invariably brings
me to the list rather than the message in question - contrary to the
apparent intention.

Shal


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Don,

I have one question about this function though. In the unlikely event
that Groups.io closed down, or a group owner decided to move to
another site, how would this zip file of the group be utilized on
another site to make a new group?

That will be entirely up to the management of the other site.

I would guess that there aren't any other sites that have or will have a comprehensive import function that could accept a zip like this - unless there were a large demand for it and/or they are a hungry young start-up eager for new users (as Groups.io is to Y!Groups).

But as Duane suggests, some of its content - especially the Members list and maybe the Messages - may be directly importable by various list/group systems already. Leaving the rest to the creativity and diligence of the moderator "left holding the bag".

Shal


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? Is it possible to change the text You will see this when you sign up for a group. ? Thanks in advance ? Carin ? ? ? ? Tip voor PSP en Animatie shop? ? ? Wil je lid worden?van één?van?mijn PSP groepen?dat kan!!! Psp groep Sica?/g/PsP-Group-SiCa Carma- erotische-Paintshop-Pro-Lessen /g/carmaerotischepaintshopprolessen Animatie groep Jax?/g/Animatie-Groep-Jax ?

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If it were me, I'd try an export, then unzip it to see exactly what it contains. It would probably be those individual files that would be used to upload to another site.

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All of these ideas have been presented on the beta group (the official suggestion box for the site) and most are on the TODO list. While many of us may agree with them, there's nothing we can do because all members here are site users like you.

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NEW: You can now export all parts of your group, including chats,

> files, photos, wikis and calendar events.

I think this is a great improvement, and should address the concerns some people have had about the viability of Groups.io. I'm going to use this function, as it will be more inclusive than the backups I've made.
I have one question about this function though. In the unlikely event that Groups.io closed down, or a group owner decided to move to another site, how would this zip file of the group be utilized on another site to make a new group? Do other sites that have groups have a Import Your Group Via Zip File function?

Don

It would be nice if group owners could see a list of photos sorted by size for the purpose of? deleting and or reformatting
the photos and re uploading them after they have been converted to a smaller size.? ? Optionally a sort by album name
would be helpful as well.? ? ?In any list sorted by size, it would be helpful for there to be an indicator of what album the
image was in and also the specific file size.

Yes, I know anyone can log in to see the poll results.? The results need to be sent to an organization that our group is a member of.? We had to poll our group in order to present the results to the parent organization regarding changes in some rules.? We might have to use something like Survey Monkey if they won't take our word for the results.? Thank you.

You could just send a link to the actual poll message, but then everyone would need to log in, if they're not already and the messages are private, to see the results. I don't really see a problem with either of the suggested methods because anyone could always compare it to the actual poll post results online.

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Thank you for the suggestions.? Both of these methods are vulnerable to "tampering" by the person who does it.? I need a method that no one can say the results had been altered.?