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Re: Photo album deletion

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:58 pm, Duane wrote:
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This helps me view the attachments, but I don't see how they can be deleted without also deleting the message.

Am I missing something obvious (I usually am)? Is this a Premium-only feature?

Bruce
Re: Mass update of moderation status #moderation

dave w
 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 06:59 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
I wouldn't bother.

My reasoning is that these are members who had the moderation override in the Yahoo Group. Which means they either (a) were purposefully on moderation due to prior behavior, or (b) were still on moderation after joining, having not yet posted (enough) to earn being unmoderated.
Hi Shal
I don't believe that's true.
When my tiny group was migrated, no-one was moderated as we were a private, on all group.
However upon migration, I immediately got 'Moderator' messages to alert me. I checked membership and found all other members than myself were 'New' and awaiting moderation. This appears to be the default format.
Not such a bad thing, simply check the 'All' box at the top and changed to UnModerated. Problem solved.

For other groups- If any (members) coincidentally were still moderated, then yes you would have to manually restrict them. But surely numbers would be small anyway?
regards
davew
Re: Moving photos from one album to another

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This should at least be an option for administrators. ?Today I had too delete photos in one album and then re-upload them to a newly created album. ?This is a new group devoted to family history on my maternal line. ?I uploaded a number of photos to a general folder not realizing that I could not then move them into new, more specific folder, as I organize things.

Please implement this soonest!

Carl

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On Mar 12, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:15 pm, Don wrote:
When I had our group on Y I could move pictures to other albums.
If the pictures were uploaded to the files area, you could move them to other folders...but between photo albums, I'm pretty sure you couldn't. Same as here.

Bruce

Re: Moving photos from one album to another

 

y-groups did allow photos to be moved between photo albums. I did it
frequently. Photo albums could also be sorted.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:15 pm, Don wrote:

When I had our group on Y I could move pictures to other albums.

If the pictures were uploaded to the files area, you could move them to
other folders...but between photo albums, I'm pretty sure you couldn't. Same
as here.

Bruce
Re: Moving photos from one album to another

 

...which reminds me...

Winnie, if you enable uploading of photos to your files area, then you can move them around with the scissors icon.

Go to Admin->Settings->Files and click the box "Allow Photos in Files." Be sure to save your changes.?

That won't help you much with moving any existing photos out of existing photo albums but I suspect this is probably what you were doing on Yahoo.

Hope this helps (a little),
Bruce
Re: Moving photos from one album to another

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:15 pm, Don wrote:
When I had our group on Y I could move pictures to other albums.
If the pictures were uploaded to the files area, you could move them to other folders...but between photo albums, I'm pretty sure you couldn't. Same as here.

Bruce
Re: messages between individuals

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Actually although it is an email list, and email addresses can be found, (a) it is often cumbersome to do so and (b) many people use only the web-based features. A PM or DM feature (whatever it ends up being called) would be very convenient. Most users would assume such conversations are private and I don¡¯t see any contradiction there. This was discussed in beta several years ago. Maybe someone can check to see if it ever made it to trello.


On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:33 PM, dave w via Groups.Io <nzntrains@...> wrote:

Indeed.
There is little point usurping the traditional role of 'normal private email' to just keep a record that otherwise wasn't meant for public disclosure (originally). Enhancement (if it were so called) to this level will only later cause greater error and embarrassment to someone because they did/ do not understand the finesse required.

Better private and one-to-one remains just that in their own systems, not a public access one.
After all, these people ARE using email programmes right? Use them the way they are intended.
Lots of off topic discussion can remain that way- or be pulled into a group just by adding the appropriate email addy.
That's not rocket science, these days,
regard davew

Re: How to attach a photo or file from the group?

Michael Rickey (AF6FB)
 

Thanks Bruce, I will have to figure out what I want to attach before composing a message...so I can collect the links.

It would be nice if there was a way to select content while composing the message. But, I can live with this.


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Re: Photo album deletion

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:55 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Somewhat related question:? Where do emailed non-photos wind up? I know they are stored on the server somewhere, as sometimes the big ones are sent out as links. But with no corresponding "emailed attachments" folder in the files area, how can we delete those?

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Re: How to attach a photo or file from the group?

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:23 pm, Michael Rickey (AF6FB) wrote:
When composing a message, is there a way to insert or attach content from the Group's Photos and Files sections?
Yes. Each photo and file has a corresponding URL. Right-click on it in your browser and select "copy link address" (Chrome, other browsers will have something similar). Then paste that into your email.

If a link won't do and you want inline photos, that's more problematical.?

Bruce
Re: Photo album deletion

 

Perhaps the OP will try it and report back...my groups just transferred 3 weeks ago and we haven't built up enough attachments yet.

Somewhat related question:? Where do emailed non-photos wind up? I know they are stored on the server somewhere, as sometimes the big ones are sent out as links. But with no corresponding "emailed attachments" folder in the files area, how can we delete those?

The inability to avoid repeatedly going over quota without the gruesome task of deleting attachments one by one is really beginning to look like a system bug to me (especially for that poor guy who has to deal with all the little embedded sig line images).?

Hopefully?there's some easy answer to all this that's eluding us at the moment.?

Bruce
Re: messages between individuals

dave w
 

Indeed.
There is little point usurping the traditional role of 'normal private email' to just keep a record that otherwise wasn't meant for public disclosure (originally). Enhancement (if it were so called) to this level will only later cause greater error and embarrassment to someone because they did/ do not understand the finesse required.

Better private and one-to-one remains just that in their own systems, not a public access one.
After all, these people ARE using email programmes right? Use them the way they are intended.
Lots of off topic discussion can remain that way- or be pulled into a group just by adding the appropriate email addy.
That's not rocket science, these days,
regard davew
How to attach a photo or file from the group?

Michael Rickey (AF6FB)
 

When composing a message, is there a way to insert or attach content from the Group's Photos and Files sections?

I haven't been able to find a way to do this yet. I would like this so I could have PDF instructions on the site for downloading and reference them with a link when responding to questions. It would also be nice to use the Photos section for images in my messages.

Thanks in advance,

Michael
Re: Chats vs Messages

dave w
 

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 03:26 am, Duane wrote:
Chats are like temporary subgroups.? Most folks use them as an IRC for a discussion that doesn't need to be on the group.? Anything posted there isn't sent out as an email.

Duane
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Ahhaaa, that's an important distinction that isn't immediately obvious (yes I've been around a really long time and know how chat works)- it's just that there wasn't any kind of operational feedback from the 'chat' action, so for all intents and purposes it appeared to act like a normal topic.
Perhaps a note in FAQ would assist,
regards dave w
Re: Photo album deletion

 

Bruce,

If it DOESN'T work, then I can make no sense of that configuration setting.

The purpose of that setting is to decide what to do with an incoming message that would put the group over quota. The options are to bounce the message or to delete old attachments.

I agree that it would make sense to have a similar ability for uploads, but perhaps that doesn't need to be controlled by an option (because the user can be asked in the upload dialog). Or maybe it should be controlled by a group option which isn't in the "Message Formatting" section.

As a completely separate trivia, I wonder why that and Attachments aren't Message Policies instead?
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Shal


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Re: Moving photos from one album to another

 

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When I had our group on Y I could move pictures to other albums.

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Don

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Moving photos from one album to another

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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 01:04 pm, Winnie wrote:

That was an option I had and often used in Yahoo groups but couldn't find here.

Winnie -- Are you sure? I've never been able to do anything with photos on Y!G except download them, view them, and reorder them within a folder. As best I can tell, moving photos between folders was not possible. Can you show me where the menu items are to do that?

We need to also consider the implications of moving one member's pictures into a folder that he doesn't control. Folder and photo ownership need to be maintained even if it makes some things inconvenient.

Bruce

Re: Photo album deletion

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 01:52 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
You're making sense. I just have my doubts that the system will let you do that.
If it DOESN'T work, then I can make no sense of that configuration setting. Sooner or later everybody's attachment queue is going to fill up...if we then have to resort to manually deleting files from it to upload anything, what's the point?

Bruce
Re: Member Mad that she got Unsubbed

 

Remember: AOL and Yahoo are both owned by Verizon now.? Neither has any particular reason to be "generous" to groups.io or any other competition for that matter.? The same rules apply about checking your spam/junk folders and making sure your system marks groups.io as safe or put on a white list.

Bill Hickey
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Re: Photo album deletion

 

Bruce,

You temporarily upload a file that's 490 MB in size, so essentially all your allotted storage is taken up by files and photo albums.

I admit I haven't tested it, but it is my expectation that upload would be rejected for putting your group over its quota. Because I think the quota it would test against includes your extant attachments.
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I hope I'm making sense.

You're making sense. I just have my doubts that the system will let you do that.

Now maybe if that fails it would be reasonable to request (on beta) that it be allowed to succeed, with some kind of warning (maybe even an "Are you sure?" popup) that the consequence will be the deletion of X amount of attachments.

That I could see as a useful feature, even if you didn't intend to promptly delete the file. Or rather, especially if the content of that file (or photo) is more useful to the group than those attachments.

Shal


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Re: how to copy fotos from Yahoo Group to my server

 

In theory, it's that easy. In practice, a lot of the time Yahoo gave me an http 500 server error instead of the photo. Glad to be outta there!

Bruce
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