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Re: Pileup at Storage Limit! Now what?

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 04:06 PM, Laurie Anne Sims wrote:
The Old Attachments Auto-Removal switch was on
Keep in mind that only old attachments are removed.? Any files or photos that are uploaded are not touched, so you may still have to delete some.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual found in the Help Center.
Re: Pileup at Storage Limit! Now what?

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 05:06 PM, Laurie Anne Sims wrote:
Suddenly a NO MORE ROOM alert!!? The Old Attachments Auto-Removal switch was on, and I'd not received an 80% warning.
Laurie -- You're not the first to report this. ?
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My guess is that the space filled too quickly for the fail-safes to kick in, so my instinct is to sit tight to see if it fixes itself overnight.? Is that reasonable?? Or, should I start panic deleting on my own?
The "old attachments" purge job runs only once a week (I don't remember what day). If you need to free up space sooner than that, you should probably start "panic deleting."?
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

> And what possible difference can it make???
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My main group is for residents of my neighborhood only. We require each prospective member to tell us their full name and to put that name in their display field. We also require them to tell us their property address. We verify their information with state property records; if there is any question about their authenticity I contact someone at a neighboring home. Only then do we approve their membership.?

My members want to feel safe knowing that they’re having a discussion with an actual neighbor and not any random person who feels like joining.?

Pete

Pileup at Storage Limit! Now what?

 

A member was uploading a stack of PDFs, a dozen or more, multi page.? I had told her it was OK because I thought it was.? Suddenly a NO MORE ROOM alert!!? The Old Attachments Auto-Removal switch was on, and I'd not received an 80% warning.
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My guess is that the space filled too quickly for the fail-safes to kick in, so my instinct is to sit tight to see if it fixes itself overnight.? Is that reasonable?? Or, should I start panic deleting on my own?
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Thx, Laurie
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

Hi Sarah,

However, in this instance, how on earth would you ever know if John Jones is in real life actually Harry Smith?
And what possible difference can it make???
My only Group that its not Restricted Membership is Announcement only, so it doesn’t matter.


My only other Group that I haven’t personally met members before Approving them,
I have a Pending Member notice sent asking:
1) Why do you want to Join?
2) What is your real First and Last Name?

Plausible answers to both questions get Approva.
Incomplete or non-answers get at least one resend of the Pending Member notice and/or a personal inquiry from me.

Some members may be submitting a false name, but our focus isn’t confidential and our Messages archive is public.
New Member Posts Require Approval, which also helps to vet new members.
I believe most people who don’t conceal their identity are more likely to be courteous and respectful in discussions. I have only in a few instances put anyone temporarily back on Moderation.

I have had to announce that there is a “Mute Topic” link on each message and there are Subscription > Settings > Advanced Preferences > Message Selection options "Following Only”,
"First Message Also”, and "Auto Follow Replies” options for those who aren’t interested in a particular Topic and/or have complained of too many messages

-Michael
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 04:21 PM, Sarah Shapiro wrote:
However, in this instance, how on earth would you ever know if John Jones is in real life actually Harry Smith?
And what possible difference can it make???
I can give one example:? One of my groups is associated with a parent organization that holds regular in-person meetings and outreach events (i.e.: we are not just a bunch of people talking over the internet). In that context we'd like to be able to reliably associate each message with a person. Our group Guidelines - sent every month - make it clear that we expect folks to use their real name and that "handles" are not allowed. Having said that, it isn't strictly enforced.
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More generally, there are more than 50,000 groups here, each created for a different reason. The many groups.io options/settings already available are designed to serve them all (or try to). We need to keep such things in mind before telling someone what they do or don't need. Allow me to be the first to admit that I don't always do a good job of that.?
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

I find this question about names interesting.? I have a group that forbids actual names, and if the email address reveals a name, the member must get a new address to use for the group.? As a result, we have some really great funny names!
However, in this instance, how on earth would you ever know if John Jones is in real life actually Harry Smith?
And what possible difference can it make???


Is there a way to require new people signing up to include their name?
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 08:43 AM, Karen Yun-Lutz wrote:
Is there a way to require new people signing up to include their name?
There is, but it requires a paid group.? You'd create an Extra Member Data field for it, then make those required when they apply.? It only works for those that apply online, not via email.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual found in the Help Center.
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

Names is tricky thing. Many a family gathering had three generations of “David”. My father-in-law immediately simplified things by immediately adapting “Wally”. Thus we had “young David“, David & Wally. Pops neatly sidestepped “Old” or “Ancient” David.
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In one of my groups there is resistance to using a name, even as I assure that I don’t care if it’s real. I consider it polite to address a person by name, even if it’s false or I think it should be “mud”
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The one unspoken rule in the group is no politics. I recently allowed a topic of “Tariffs” ?for 48 hours with a demand for curtesy and a big stick “your posts will be set to ‘moderated’”. I got one direct nasty gram and was pleasantly surprised at how civility was maintained.
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cheers,
Dave F.
Re: Image File Extensions

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 03:58 AM, Don Grass wrote:
What image file extensions can be used in Photo Albums in 开云体育?
It seems to allow only those formats that are likely to be displayable in a native browser (i.e.: without add-ons).
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Allowed: BMP, PNG, AVIF, WEBP, GIF, JPG, possibly others (I quit testing there)
Disallowed: TGA, HEIC, TIFF, PSP, many others
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

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Hi Bruce,

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:24 AM, Thomas Gruber wrote:
Is it possible for a person to have a user profile in groups.io that contains a display name, but clear the name (or change it to something different) just for a specific group to be anonymous in that group??
Thomas -- Yes, you can.
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In my experience, Display Name gets auto-populated by an incoming email only if initially empty. It you manually change/clear it by editing a subscription record, it remains that way (I would welcome further testing on this).
I tried this right away, and it works as you describe. I changed my display name in 1 group, by editing the subscription entry, and that change stuck (incl. subgroups, as expected). In other main groups the old name (from the groups.io user profile) remained what it was.?
I didn‘t try to clear the name altogether - will try that next and report the result.
Which brings up a point that I meant to mention to Karen, but forgot - even if you force your subscribers to enter something, there's no assurance that a real name will be provided.
Of course - we don‘t want a legally binding subscription with the correct name in groups.io I think. There are enough organisations with 3 letter abbreviations that can work on finding out the correct name from an email address …
Thomas
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:24 AM, Thomas Gruber wrote:
Is it possible for a person to have a user profile in groups.io that contains a display name, but clear the name (or change it to something different) just for a specific group to be anonymous in that group??
Thomas -- Yes, you can.
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In my experience, Display Name gets auto-populated by an incoming email only if initially empty. If you manually change/clear it by editing a subscription record, it remains that way (I would welcome further testing on this).
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Which brings up a point that I meant to mention to Karen, but forgot - even if you force your subscribers to enter something, there's no assurance that a real name will be provided.
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Actually I would use 2 different email addresses (= user ids) if I was such a person, many email services offer the free use of an alias name so it would be easy to set up, and then use 2 different email addresses in groups.io which would look like 2 different persons for the system and for all other members.?
This is certainly another way to provide a second level of anonymity.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: What is a "locked" subgroup?

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 08:24 AM, Otto J. Arnoscht N4UZZ wrote:
Due to budget constraints I need to downgrade to free.
It says my subgroups will be locked.? Can I invite new members??
To the locked subgroups, no. They are locked and inaccessible.
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You should still be able to invite new members to the main group, if you aren't already over the 100-member limit.

Can I delete existing members?
Interesting question. You can't delete them from a subgroup, because you won't have access to the member lists there. But you should be able to delete someone from the main group and they'll still automatically be removed from all subgroups (I have not tested this).
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Before doing all this, you might want to look into Sponsorships. Your members might surprise you, and contribute enough funds to keep you afloat.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

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Hi Bruce,
Is it possible for a person to have a user profile in groups.io that contains a display name, but clear the name (or change it to something different) just for a specific group to be anonymous in that group? Normally the same email address and display name are used in all groups where a person is a member.?
Actually I would use 2 different email addresses (= user ids) if I was such a person, many email services offer the free use of an alias name so it would be easy to set up, and then use 2 different email addresses in groups.io which would look like 2 different persons for the system and for all other members.?
Thomas

Am 08.04.2025 um 15:56 schrieb Bruce Bowman via groups.io <bowman46118@...>:

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 09:43 AM, Karen Yun-Lutz wrote:
Is there a way to require new people signing up to include their name??
Not at this time. It would be handy.

I run an open group and some people only include their email address. No first or last name.?
Display Name will usually be populated as soon as a subscriber sends an email to the group. If they never do - or never edit their subscription record to add one - it will remain empty.
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There is an ongoing discussion in the beta group about adding fields for this during signup (). If you want such a feature to be added, you might want to weigh in there.
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In doing so, please consider that there exist many groups where anonymity is actually desirable.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

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Hi Karen,
You can activate ?restricted membership“ for your group (admin - preferences - settings) - then any membership request will be moderated, and you can ask for a name if necessary before approving a membership request. But there‘s no automatic way to achieve that I believe.
Thomas

Am 08.04.2025 um 15:43 schrieb Karen Yun-Lutz via groups.io <renaissancewomn04@...>:

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Is there a way to require new people signing up to include their name??
I run an open group and some people only include their email address. No first or last name.?
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Thank you,
Karen
Re: Requiring name on sign up

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 09:43 AM, Karen Yun-Lutz wrote:
Is there a way to require new people signing up to include their name??
Not at this time. It would be handy.

I run an open group and some people only include their email address. No first or last name.?
Display Name will usually be populated as soon as a subscriber sends an email to the group. If they never do - or never edit their subscription record to add one - it will remain empty.
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There is an ongoing discussion in the beta group about adding fields for this during signup (). If you want such a feature to be added, you might want to weigh in there.
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In doing so, please consider that there exist many groups where anonymity is actually desirable.
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Regards,
Bruce
Requiring name on sign up

 

Is there a way to require new people signing up to include their name??
I run an open group and some people only include their email address. No first or last name.?
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Thank you,
Karen
Re: What is a "locked" subgroup?

 

Hi Otto,
free groups can't have subgroups at all, except if they are legacy groups that had subgroups before 15. January 2020. So if your main group is younger than that, you lose visibility of the subgroups if you downgrade to free ( the contents of the subgroups will be kept in case you change to a paid plan again later).
Thomas
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Re: link to subscribe

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 08:59 AM, James Counts, CPA, CTFA, Hemet, CA wrote:
I looked and on none of my groups that are unlimited (anyone can join) their homepages does not have that button.
If the group is Restricted, the button will say "Apply for Membership..."
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If you're already a member - and logged in - the button does not show up at all.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: link to subscribe

 

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 11:31 PM, Linda Perry wrote:
I am trying to set up a join leak on my home page (I have the premium group) but when you click on the link below it takes you back to the home premium page, not the io groups page to sign up.?
I am using the link: ?

/g/PeachheadNanny/join?? ? but it keeps going to this link instead: /g/PeachheadNanny To Request Membership into the PeachheadNanny group click Join Here

That's because you are already subscribed to the group. If you're logged off and unsubscribed, it works.

Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong.? How can I easily set up a link to join'
There is no way to set up a one-click link to join a group. At a minimum, the prospective subscriber must provide an email address.
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There is an ongoing discussion about this in the beta group. () You might want to weigh in there.
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Regards,
Bruce
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