Gerald Boutin I did forward the email. It was not copied and paste. Joe Gerald Boutin
Even better if you forward the raw email including headers. Depending on your email client, the option will be something like "Show Original". Or it might be even easier just to forward the actual email rather than just copying the text. --? Gerald Boutin
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Re: Posting as Owner / Moderator
Shal,
I see what you mean. That's analogous to what I see. However, that is still problematic. The display name should not show up IN THE EMAIL. When I send a message to a group member from the owner address using "send message," the display name does not show up in the email.
The whole purpose of using the +owner address (at least, to my understanding) is to anonymize the message. When the display name is included - "Shal Farley" in your case - it defeats that purpose.
Messages sent from the owner address using the Send Message feature appear in emails only as coming from GroupName+owner [at] groups.io. That's what one would expect using the +owner dropdown address in New Topic. Yet instead, your display name shows up. I think this is extremely misleading to group owners who expect that by using the owner address they will be anonymized. They aren't.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 06:29 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
It actually does change the email address,
Shal, Not in the email I received in my test just before posting. The message came from my own email address, not the group owner address. ? -- J
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Right, it's not working yet. The dropdown is there (which surprised me) but unfortunately, it doesn't change the email address in the archive OR in email.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote: After doing a bit of testing and sleuthing,?I do not see any difference in post style, etc between the two choices. As far as I can tell, the option only changes the from email address when the post is sent in email format.
It would seem the option has been around for quite some time, based on a Trello card dated January 23, 2015.?"Web posts from group owner should show in archives as being from group+owner, not the person who posted."
The card was also updated Feb 20, 2015 for "Also ability to reply as group+owner."
So, it seems those additional features are not yet implemented.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:58 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
Wow, all this time and I never noticed you could do that (post as moderator). Wonder when it was added.
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Cacky
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On 3/20/2018 5:29 PM, Nancy P via Groups.Io wrote: I'm using AOL desktop software and she's not in my contact list. ?I did send emails to her at the old email address but it's when I click on the hyperlink of the new address that the old one (magically!) appears.
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Even better if you forward the raw email including headers. Depending on your email client, the option will be something like "Show Original".
Or it might be even easier just to forward the actual email rather than just copying the text.
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After doing a bit of testing and sleuthing,?I do not see any difference in post style, etc between the two choices. As far as I can tell, the option only changes the from email address when the post is sent in email format.
It would seem the option has been around for quite some time, based on a Trello card dated January 23, 2015.?"Web posts from group owner should show in archives as being from group+owner, not the person who posted."
The card was also updated Feb 20, 2015 for "Also ability to reply as group+owner."
So, it seems those additional features are not yet implemented.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:58 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
Wow, all this time and I never noticed you could do that (post as moderator). Wonder when it was added.
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Re: Transfer of Yahoo Groups to IO Errors
Bruce In another of my groups there was a problem with the transfer. All the message archives did not copy over and several other problems. Like we would approve messages and they did not go to the message board. Mark did do another transfer and fixed the problems with messages. I was kind of hoping it can be done with this other group as well. We shall see Thanks Joe Bruce Bowman
If you've already received some kind of "transfer completed" message then I suspect Mark is not planning to work on it any more. It won't hurt to ask him but I'm sure there are other groups waiting in the queue.
It's my understanding that Yahoo Groups has been down a lot recently and you may be forced to transfer some content manually...if you can.?Frankly, if "in most groups [out of 22] the info was transferred with no problems," I think you should count your blessings.
Good luck,
Bruce
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How long did it take?
Ken L.
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On 20 Mar 2018, at 2:55 PM, Denny G. < wu6x@...> wrote:
So, everyone is posting their issues and problems and I thought it about time for some positive comments ... Our radio club's transfer went perfectly! All members, files, photos, and posts on Y!G came over without a hitch. I only had to re-enter the recurring events in the new calendar and we were up and operating. The few emails that bounced were chalked up to "bad or no longer existing". So, deleted those and waited for the those "few" to rejoin. They did ... No issues!
Thanks so much, ... everyone in our 100+ person Club loves the new platform.
Best regards,
Dennis - WU6X
SFARC Moderator
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Me neither.? I just checked it out and saw the down caret for the dropdown.? But all it changes is the email address but it keeps your signature which is cool, Whoever said Mark would never make it as a programmer?<g> -- Bob Bellizzi
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Wow, all this time and I never noticed you could do that (post as moderator). Wonder when it was added.
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I don¡¯t know how you can even do ithat when starting a new topic. Are you sure??
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On Mar 20, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io < chrisjones12@...> wrote: On a group for which I am a Moderator if I select "New Topic" I can post either in my own name or as the Group Owner.
However, if I wish to reply to a post in a thread? - even one I started as Group Owner - I do not seem to get that option; I can only post in my own name. Is this correct or have I overlooked something?
Regards,
Chris
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¡®Bump¡¯ means ¡®reply to it¡¯ so that it comes to people¡¯s attention again. ?
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On Mar 20, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Glen - G0SBN via Groups.Io < g0sbn@...> wrote: I was feeling good and on a roll when I managed to create the link to the pdf uploaded in the files section, but alas I'll show my ignorance again :-) what does bump a topic mean and how do it?
Many thanks
Glen
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 03:53 pm, Chris Jones wrote:
I have pasted the "work in progress" version of the wiki page into the Group...
I've done something similar...that is, to create a member notice with the appended text. It's called "Some Notes on Spam Filters." So far, I haven't had to send it to anybody, but I suspect it's only a matter of time. I plagiarized much of it from others here on GMF with only minor edits on my part. All credit to them. Hope this helps, Bruce
Recently, many ISPs and email services have implemented a new "feature" that was supposed to reduce spam for their email users. When you mark a message as spam in one of these email services, it sends an unsubscribe request to Groups.io. Unfortunately, Groups.io and similar services must comply with this arrangement or risk having ALL of their messages blocked by that email provider.
Some providers will even do this without your intervention. What does this mean to you? If you mark a message from Groups.io as spam, or leave a message from Groups.io in your spam folder for too long, your email provider could send us an unsubscribe request, forcing Groups.io to unsubscribe you from this group. Groups.io has created a work-around that returns a message with a hyperlink that will immediately resubscribe to our group. The problem is, if that message also lands in your spam folder and you don't notice it, you remain unsubscribed. The options available to prevent this behavior depend on your ISP. The best way, if available, is to "whitelist" the groups.io domain (or [email protected] specifically) so that all group email is forwarded to inbox. Or you may be able to set your spam filter to not hold spam but instead *mark* it as spam and forward it to inbox for you to decide whether to delete it. That way the spam trigger isn't set and you won't lose any messages that your ISP thought could be spam but wasn't.
Another option to try is to change your message delivery options here on the Groups.io site. If you're set to receive individual emails and they're getting sent to spam, you might have better luck with one of the digest modes or a daily message summary. Please be advised that when you let someone or something else make these decisions for you, you may miss out on important information, and you might also be allowing your email service to unsubscribe you from messaging services. Thanks for reading this.
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Posting as Owner / Moderator
On a group for which I am a Moderator if I select "New Topic" I can post either in my own name or as the Group Owner.
However, if I wish to reply to a post in a thread? - even one I started as Group Owner - I do not seem to get that option; I can only post in my own name. Is this correct or have I overlooked something?
Regards,
Chris
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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 03:30 pm, Walter Underwood wrote:
I¡¯ll add some technical info, including mail providers who are suspected to use p=reject.
I see that Mark included a list of ESPs with which Groups.io has signed up to using a FBL; he included the following in a post on the beta group: We're signed up for the following FBL systems: , , , , I have pasted the "work in progress" version of the wiki page into the Group of which I am a Moderator with the caveat that it is subject to change; better that members have some awareness of the situation than none at all. (If past experience is anything to go by not many will bother to read it anyway; you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink...) Chris
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