Larry,

The following message came up: "Yahoo is now part of Oath, the media
and tech company behind today’s top news, sports and entertainment
sites and apps."

That Verizon bought Yahoo's internet properties, including Yahoo Groups, and put them under the Oath division is old news.

Note that the name Yahoo lives on as a brand name under Oath. So far at least they've not decided to re-brand any of the services.

It went on to list their terms of service, etc.

That's probably the reason for the notice. Many internet companies have recently revised their terms of service and/or privacy policies ahead of the new law going into effect in most of Europe.

If I recall correctly, Oath started presenting a new TOS to users of Yahoo Mail and Yahoo Groups (and presumably other formerly Yahoo properties) several weeks ago; establishing their name as the service provider, replacing Yahoo Inc.

My group members are happy with the move ...

Some of us here still have an interest in Yahoo-related things (groups hosted there), but I imagine that will continue to dwindle over time.

Shal


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I just logged onto my Yahoo account to delete my YGroups which have been successfully moved to groups.io
The following message came up: "Yahoo is now part of Oath, the media and tech company behind today’s top news, sports and entertainment sites and apps."
It went on to list their terms of service, etc.

My group members are happy with the move and relieved we no longer have to deal with Yahoo's total disregard for their customers.

Larry W.

Bruce,

I'm trying to convince a Y!G that I'm a member of to transfer. In
doing so, I sent a message to that group and CC'ed the corresponding
GIO group.

I did not receive a copy of the message by email, but it posted to the
group.

Addressing the group in either the To or CC shouldn't matter to whether you receive the message. Or to whether others receive it either.

It's as if I temporarily went into my Account settings and disabled
the "send me copies."

What that option does is cause Groups.io to replace the message's Message-ID field when sending it back to you. That's a recent change: it used to replace the field in the copy sent to everyone else as well.

This only affects users whose email service (such as Gmail) hides messages from you if you already have them, in your inbox or your Sent folder. Changing the ID makes it a different message.

So if you use such a service perhaps you fooled the mechanism, or it has a bug. Or maybe the message was diverted to your Spam or other folder. But I'm betting the message was actually delivered to your email service.

Shal


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Thanks all - gives me some good options.

John

Carin,

Is it possible to change the text
You will see this when you sign up for a group.

Nope.

You can compose a Pending Subscription notice that will be emailed to the person, but you can't alter the text on the web site.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices

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John,

1) Group owner or moderator mutes a topic for all members OR

No.

2) Member can mute a topic prior to receiving an email.

Members can mute a hashtag, and that would mute all topics sent with that hashtag.

The other option is that members can select following-only (an Advanced preference) and then they receive only the topics they choose to follow.

My reason - I want new members to go through the approval process
when they join the group instead of waiting until they want to post
something

I've no idea what your approval process is, but even a group with open membership has a Welcome Notice that goes to people when they join. You could edit your group's Welcome notice so that it is the start of your process.

Having the group set to New Member Moderated (which it must be if it isn't Restricted, Announcement, or Moderated) doesn't mean that you have to wait for the member to post before removing the moderation requirement. In response to whatever process you used following their joining you can preemptively change the new member's Posting Privilege from "Override: new user moderated" to "Default group policy". Once you've done that he/she is no longer subject to the N approved messages requirement.

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On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 04:33 pm, John Fields wrote:

It is an open group. ?Anyone can join and view messages but must get approved before posting. ?I understand your point. ?However, this is in the area of amateur radio and the other successful Groups.io and Facebook groups allow someone to see messages before posting.

You can have a restricted-membership group and still have the message archive visible to the public. One has nothing to do with the other.?

Bruce

Frances - thanks for your message. ?I have looked at the thread per your suggestion and need to think some about if/how that will work for me.

Bob - It is an open group. ?Anyone can join and view messages but must get approved before posting. ?I understand your point. ?However, this is in the area of amateur radio and the other successful Groups.io and Facebook groups allow someone to see messages before posting. ?That seems to work best in this area. ?Thanks for your comments.

John

John,?
Since you haven't given us much info it's difficult to give you a solution.
Is your group restricted?
If not, why not make it restricted?? Then you could control new member entry and the process they must go through prior to actually being able to post of view or send & receive email messages.
This also is an advantage since you can impose moderation on the new member in addition till you're satisfied they are legit and not out to hack you.

My view is that unrestricted groups quickly gather unwanted members.

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Hi All,
Thank you all for the answers to my question (and sorry to Shal for cluttering up his email box when I sent this direct to him by mistake).
Regards,
Paul Fraser

Our archive is about 40,000 messages—has anyone transferred
anything of this size or greater? Problems?

What happens to the Yahoo side? I presume it is a copy of the
archive that is taken and the original one is left in place (I think we
would like to post digests from group.io to Yahoo so we have a
backup).

Paul Fraser

By the time I finally transferred my large group we were at about 82,000 messages. Everything came over okay, and of course the Yahoo side of things remained untouched. Mine was certainly not the largest group to move by any means.

I would suggest two things:

1) Don't allow posts to the new group until the transfer is complete. Otherwise the new posts get stuck into the old messages when ever they happen to come in to the transferring messages, and so are out of order. Just set the group to moderate all posts until the transfer is complete. When Mark moved my group the system was set up to tell the members they were part of the new group when members were transferred and before all the messages transferred. That has since been changed to avoid the problem.

2) Check for messages with an octothorpe in the title. (#) These will convert to hashtags, even if your group is set up to not use hashtags. They're easier to edit out before the transfer and convert to 'no.', 'number', or such.

I'm sure others have other things they've noticed.

Dano

Understand about muting by clicking on the link in an email. ? Is it possible to mute a topic any other way. ?Specifically, two options:

1) Group owner or moderator mutes a topic for all members OR

2) Member can mute a topic prior to receiving an email.

My reason - ?I want new members to go through the approval process when they join the group instead of waiting until they want to post something - so in case the owner or moderators are not immediately available. ?I have a topic created that a new member can reply to in order to go through the approval process as soon as possible. ?It would be disruptive for all members who choose to follow topics with individual emails to get an email every time a new member is approved.

Thanks,

John

Bruce,

Each subscriber account also has its own time zone, and many groups
have subscribers worldwide. Is the expectation that a single all-day
event will generate [up to] 24 different notices, one for each set of
subscribers in that zone?

I believe it does customize the content of the notice to reflect the member's timezone, but I don't expect that it would also stagger the delivery time.

That is, the event is considered to have a place and time; no matter where the recipient is in the world that doesn't change - only the recipient's time changes.

So, a notice set to go out at the time of the event should go out to everyone at once - but the time of day that is in each recipient's time zone will depend on the recipient's location setting.

One could argue that an "All Day" event should be defined as the day in each timezone - effectively a separate event in each timezone. But I think that way lies madness.

What happens with Google and other sites that attempt to do
calendaring?

Good question. For the most part I only experience Google's calendar from my own time zone, for events in my timezone; so I've never had to wonder about that overly much.

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On 5/13/2018 10:22, Shal Farley wrote:

(I think we would like to post digests from group.io to Yahoo so we
have a backup).

It may not be easy or even possible to get the Y!Group's posting address subscribed as a member of your Groups.io group (maybe with Direct Add?), but you could manually forward the digests to your Y!Group or set up an email filter to automatically forward them.

Shal

Another way to do this is to create an email account that forwards to the Y!Group and subscribe that account to the Groups.io group.

Best,

Glenn

Paul,

What happens to the Yahoo side? I presume it is a copy of the archive
that is taken and the original one is left in place

Correct. The transfer agent makes no changes to the Yahoo group.

(I think we would like to post digests from group.io to Yahoo so we
have a backup).

It may not be easy or even possible to get the Y!Group's posting address subscribed as a member of your Groups.io group (maybe with Direct Add?), but you could manually forward the digests to your Y!Group or set up an email filter to automatically forward them.

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160,000 from 20 years of Yahoo gulps.? All ok no issues.
I think that the? dying beast called Yahoo Groups is causing most of the issues currently with the intermittent nature of iis operation during its death throes
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On 5/13/2018 01:43, Paul Fraser via Groups.Io wrote:

No, not another post morning about the time this takes :)

Our archive is about 40,000 messages—has anyone transferred anything of this size or greater? Problems?

What happens to the Yahoo side? I presume it is a copy of the archive that is taken and the original one is left in place (I think we would like to post digests from group.io to Yahoo so we have a backup).

Paul Fraser

Hi, Paul.

Our group had over 140,000 messages on transfer.

Best,

Glenn

Thank you.? Yes, I realize my original question was a bit unclear.? The organization that would need the results would accept an email that was sent to the group with the results of the poll.? They are not on Groups.io at all and are an international organization that our group belongs to.? I don't think they would accept a document that an individual created from the results because the possibility of tampering is greater than just forwarding the email that was generated as a result of closing the poll.? Sorry for the confusion.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 08:22 pm, Mohamed Mounir wrote:

>>Is there a way to achieve this?

Not at this time.

>>Seems simple enough to do?

Lots of things seem simple but aren't. It may not even be legal. Considering the GDPR compliance ramifications, it may be best not to second-guess the intentions of your subscribers as to where their posts "should" appear.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce