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Re: Is groups.io really unsuitable for my needs?


Gaute Amundsen
 

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On 05. sep. 2018 18:24, Shal Farley wrote:
Gaute,

The problem is that it's encouraged, and kind of breaks down, when the group is private.

I'm not clear on what you mean by this. I run a couple of Restricted Membership groups, most of the membership of those are "email only" - I suspect they've never visited the site.

They must be seasoned malinglist users then :)
If there is a link in the footer, somebody will click it, and then the "email only" experience breaks badly.

I guess it mostly boils down to the links in the footer.

See also Your Friend, the Footer. And comment on it or update it as needed, if you're so inclined.
I found that :)
Quite helpful, but I notice some discrepancies now.
It says "leave", while my footer says "unsubscribe".
It also claims the url is on the format of /g/<groupname>/leave/some/codes while my source clearly contains only /g/<gropname>/unsub.


When I click the Unsubscribe link, it's not a mailto link with +unsubscribe but a link to a login page.
Not only that, but when you read all the fine print it asks you to "Use the Email me a link to log in button above", which is not above, but rather hiding under the "forgot password" link.

In the early days a lot of effort went in to making the unsubscribe link as streamlined and simple as possible - many of the early adopters had run Yahoo Groups whose memberships were also largely email-only. It is possible that changes have crept in which make it no longer so. Specific problems, like having the text conflict with the layout of the page, should be reported to [email protected] as bugs.

I shall make a point of that, if I can actually make this work as I want it :-)

Anyone wishing to test the Unsubscribe link should be aware of a couple of things:
  • If your browser has a Groups.io login cookie (that is, if you are logged in on some tab or window) then you will have a different presentation than an "email only" member who has never visited the site.
  • The unsubscribe link contains your account ID (the number just after the word "leave"). This identifies who to unsubscribe. The prompt to use a login link may be a defense against you trying to unsubscribe someone else - it serves the same purpose as the confirmation email sent after a +unsubscribe command. n
Ah, there you say it again. But it doesn¡¯t!
The links are of the /unsub and not /leave kind, and there is no account ID. This goes for the text/plain mime part as well, so it's not just some clever javascript acting up or something.
Changes have clearly crept in I'd say :-)

Gaute

PS. For testing and general control of privacy online, I can warmly recommend Firefox in combination with the plugins "Firefox multi account containers" and "cookie autodelete".
Makes it very simpe to be admin in one tab, and a completely blanc user in another one.

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