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Power supply for Gemini 1

 

Hello,

The power supply of my venerable Gemini 1 recently brouhgt down. Unfortunatly Losmandy sails no more power supply for Gemini 1 . Had somebody the same problem in the past? Is it possible to use a power supply for PC by changing its cable (using the cable of my old power supply) to have the good electrical outlet for Gemini 1 (4 pins , cylindrical outlet)? And what about polarity? Is there a risk of damage in case of error of polarity?
Thanks in advance for good advice.
Best regard.
Arnaud


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

I managed to get to site to look at this further.
What was strange is I couldn't slew to anything to the West without getting an interrupt message.
I checked the controller, and internals to make sure there was no corrosion. I also checked the battery condition which was 3.07 volts. I then removed the battery for 5minutes to clear the SRAM.
After reinstalling the battery and entering all settings again everything was fine thereafter. My safety limits were way off which I manually set with the hand controller.
Perhaps it was a corrupted model which was cleared properly, or the warm restarts caused the issue. I'm not sure what the problem was, but everything appears to be working now as it should.


On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:26, Daniel Judge via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:
I've been looking through the logs and didn't see anything that shows a goto limit issue, all Serial Received results show "MS, 0" in all logs for the past few days.

That might lead me to the controller causing an issue.

00:44:44.271 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <220:, 098d00;096d00
00:44:44.272 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: <237:p#
00:44:44.272 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: GoTo Limit, West Limit, East Limit Meridian offset (degrees):, 2, 6, -8
00:44:44.272 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: GoTo Limit, West Limit, East Limit Meridian offset (hours):, 0.133333333333333, 0.4, -0.533333333333333
00:44:44.272 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: SiderealTime, ScopeHA, DesinationHA (hours):, 7.31694444444444, -6.00361111111111, 1.61516032855189
00:44:44.280 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: <237:
00:44:44.298 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <237:, 4500;4500
00:44:44.298 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: <235:r#
00:44:44.307 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: <235:
00:44:44.321 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <235:, 4501;0
00:44:44.321 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: <237:p#
00:44:44.329 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: <237:
00:44:44.348 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <237:, 4500;4500
00:44:44.348 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: From Region A to Region C, Retval: , pierEast
00:44:44.403 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: :Sr05:41:00#:ONPC Object#:Sd-02:26:40#:MS#
00:44:44.448 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: :Sr05:41:00
00:44:44.448 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: :Sr05:41:00, 1
00:44:44.448 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: :Sd-02:26:40
00:44:44.594 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: :Sd-02:26:40, 1
00:44:44.594 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: :MS
00:44:44.607 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: :MS, 0



On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 09:53, Daniel Judge via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:
?I had been using Warm Restarts, but since this occurred, I powered off and powered back on with Cold Starts from CWD to remove any prior modelling.
I've set the goto limit to Western: 96, Eastern 98; with 2.5 degrees goto limit, which I thought was conservative enough to hit anything at 40-60¡ã but still got the Interrupt message.
I even went back to 1.0.75 drivers to rule out issues.

I thought goto limits was one of the reasons, but given the goto requests were nowhere near the meridian I ruled out that being an issue.

I have someone going onsite and will get them to check the current state settings on the hand controller to rule out any differences between what I'm setting and seeing in Gemini.NET; and remove the hand controller and try rule out where this might be occurring. May even swap the battery over.

Thanks

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 04:14, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I would add that if you use warm start (or restart) on a regular basis, it's possible the limits can drift a bit


Brian

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:56 AM Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote:

Hi Dan,

This is from the Gemini 1 Level 4 manual, discussing the goto limit and safety limits:

The default value of zero means that the GoTo limit is set 2.5 degrees east of the western safety limit. Note: Use caution when setting the GoTo limit to values between 1 and 89 degrees. Such values would indicate points east of the meridian, and would mean that Gemini would try to point to objects between the GoTo limit (now in the eastern hemisphere) and the meridian with the telescope tube on the east side of the mount. It is possible that such objects would be unreachable without violating the eastern safety limit. Attempts to GoTo such objects in this situation would result in the telescope not moving, and?¡°*±õ²Ô³Ù±ð°ù°ù³Ü±è³Ù±ð»å*¡± being displayed on the hand controller.?

I suggest that you check your Goto and safety limit settings, as they are possibly preventing you from doing Goto's due to being too conservatively set.

Regards,

? ? ? -Paul

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:22 AM, Daniel Judge wrote:

I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


Re: 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

 

Hi Paul, Michael and David,

Thanks for your useful replies...(I'll email you David in a separate message.).
Hopefully this unit still has some life left in it!

BTW...sorry for the strange font in the original message....not sure why that was, but the web page was behaving a bit oddly!


All the best and Happy New Year,

Simon


------ Original Message ------
From: "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@...>
Sent: 02-Jan-22 5:37:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Gemini_users_io] 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

With luck and a following wind ¨C I¡¯ve got one with identical symptoms on the bench that is ¡°resisting¡± repair!

?

David

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Herman
Sent: 02 January 2022 00:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini_users_io] 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

?

Hi Simon,

?

Your good news is that expert repairer David Partridge lives in Warwickshire UK.? Might be, so to speak, a next door neighbor.? He'll fix your faulty unit.

?

He's at

?

Happy new year 2022...

Michael


Re: 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

With luck and a following wind ¨C I¡¯ve got one with identical symptoms on the bench that is ¡°resisting¡± repair!

?

David

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Herman
Sent: 02 January 2022 00:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gemini_users_io] 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

?

Hi Simon,

?

Your good news is that expert repairer David Partridge lives in Warwickshire UK.? Might be, so to speak, a next door neighbor.? He'll fix your faulty unit.

?

He's at

?

Happy new year 2022...

Michael


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

I've been looking through the logs and didn't see anything that shows a goto limit issue, all Serial Received results show "MS, 0" in all logs for the past few days.

That might lead me to the controller causing an issue.

00:44:44.271 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <220:, 098d00;096d00
00:44:44.272 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: <237:p#
00:44:44.272 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: GoTo Limit, West Limit, East Limit Meridian offset (degrees):, 2, 6, -8
00:44:44.272 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: GoTo Limit, West Limit, East Limit Meridian offset (hours):, 0.133333333333333, 0.4, -0.533333333333333
00:44:44.272 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: SiderealTime, ScopeHA, DesinationHA (hours):, 7.31694444444444, -6.00361111111111, 1.61516032855189
00:44:44.280 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: <237:
00:44:44.298 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <237:, 4500;4500
00:44:44.298 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: <235:r#
00:44:44.307 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: <235:
00:44:44.321 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <235:, 4501;0
00:44:44.321 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: <237:p#
00:44:44.329 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: <237:
00:44:44.348 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: <237:, 4500;4500
00:44:44.348 IT:DestinationSideOfPier ?TID:5 [1]: From Region A to Region C, Retval: , pierEast
00:44:44.403 Serial Transmit ? ? ? ? ? TID:11 [0]: :Sr05:41:00#:ONPC Object#:Sd-02:26:40#:MS#
00:44:44.448 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: :Sr05:41:00
00:44:44.448 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: :Sr05:41:00, 1
00:44:44.448 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: :Sd-02:26:40
00:44:44.594 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: :Sd-02:26:40, 1
00:44:44.594 Serial wait for response ?TID:11 [0]: :MS
00:44:44.607 Serial received: ? ? ? ? ?TID:11 [0]: :MS, 0



On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 09:53, Daniel Judge via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:
?I had been using Warm Restarts, but since this occurred, I powered off and powered back on with Cold Starts from CWD to remove any prior modelling.
I've set the goto limit to Western: 96, Eastern 98; with 2.5 degrees goto limit, which I thought was conservative enough to hit anything at 40-60¡ã but still got the Interrupt message.
I even went back to 1.0.75 drivers to rule out issues.

I thought goto limits was one of the reasons, but given the goto requests were nowhere near the meridian I ruled out that being an issue.

I have someone going onsite and will get them to check the current state settings on the hand controller to rule out any differences between what I'm setting and seeing in Gemini.NET; and remove the hand controller and try rule out where this might be occurring. May even swap the battery over.

Thanks

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 04:14, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I would add that if you use warm start (or restart) on a regular basis, it's possible the limits can drift a bit


Brian

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:56 AM Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote:

Hi Dan,

This is from the Gemini 1 Level 4 manual, discussing the goto limit and safety limits:

The default value of zero means that the GoTo limit is set 2.5 degrees east of the western safety limit. Note: Use caution when setting the GoTo limit to values between 1 and 89 degrees. Such values would indicate points east of the meridian, and would mean that Gemini would try to point to objects between the GoTo limit (now in the eastern hemisphere) and the meridian with the telescope tube on the east side of the mount. It is possible that such objects would be unreachable without violating the eastern safety limit. Attempts to GoTo such objects in this situation would result in the telescope not moving, and?¡°*±õ²Ô³Ù±ð°ù°ù³Ü±è³Ù±ð»å*¡± being displayed on the hand controller.?

I suggest that you check your Goto and safety limit settings, as they are possibly preventing you from doing Goto's due to being too conservatively set.

Regards,

? ? ? -Paul

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:22 AM, Daniel Judge wrote:

I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

?I had been using Warm Restarts, but since this occurred, I powered off and powered back on with Cold Starts from CWD to remove any prior modelling.
I've set the goto limit to Western: 96, Eastern 98; with 2.5 degrees goto limit, which I thought was conservative enough to hit anything at 40-60¡ã but still got the Interrupt message.
I even went back to 1.0.75 drivers to rule out issues.

I thought goto limits was one of the reasons, but given the goto requests were nowhere near the meridian I ruled out that being an issue.

I have someone going onsite and will get them to check the current state settings on the hand controller to rule out any differences between what I'm setting and seeing in Gemini.NET; and remove the hand controller and try rule out where this might be occurring. May even swap the battery over.

Thanks


On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 04:14, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I would add that if you use warm start (or restart) on a regular basis, it's possible the limits can drift a bit


Brian

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:56 AM Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote:

Hi Dan,

This is from the Gemini 1 Level 4 manual, discussing the goto limit and safety limits:

The default value of zero means that the GoTo limit is set 2.5 degrees east of the western safety limit. Note: Use caution when setting the GoTo limit to values between 1 and 89 degrees. Such values would indicate points east of the meridian, and would mean that Gemini would try to point to objects between the GoTo limit (now in the eastern hemisphere) and the meridian with the telescope tube on the east side of the mount. It is possible that such objects would be unreachable without violating the eastern safety limit. Attempts to GoTo such objects in this situation would result in the telescope not moving, and?¡°*±õ²Ô³Ù±ð°ù°ù³Ü±è³Ù±ð»å*¡± being displayed on the hand controller.?

I suggest that you check your Goto and safety limit settings, as they are possibly preventing you from doing Goto's due to being too conservatively set.

Regards,

? ? ? -Paul

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:22 AM, Daniel Judge wrote:

I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


Re: 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

 

Hi Simon,

Your good news is that expert repairer David Partridge lives in Warwickshire UK.? Might be, so to speak, a next door neighbor.? He'll fix your faulty unit.

He's at

Happy new year 2022...
Michael




On Sat, Jan 1, 2022, 4:11 PM Simon Kidd <simonkidd01@...> wrote:
Hi All,

Happy New Year!

Its not started well for me I'm afraid!? I have a quite old G1 (DIN motor connectors but with slide switch on/off) and it has worked perfectly for a very long time, with frequent use. However, tonight I fired it up and it immediately showed 'SRAM FAILURE' for about a second, then 'WD RESET' thereafter, plus some beeping. The menu system works, but in an erratic way.? I tried changing the RTC battery, which was fine anyway, but this made no difference. I changed the EPROM for an old one I had (known to be ok) but this did not work either.? Everything is permanently set up, in an observatory, I checked supply voltage, which is fine .
I then plugged in my spare unit, with the? same hand controller, motors and cables....this works fine. (so at least? I can continue observing)
Any ideas what this fault is?....it looks 'serious'.....but if possible I'd like it? repaired!

Many thanks
Simon Kidd
Herts
UK


Re: 'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

 
Edited

Hi Simon,

This problem can be caused by some hardware failures. The one that seems to be fairly common is the failure of a voltage supervisor IC, as described in much more detail by Brendan Smith here:

/g/Gemini_users/message/32034

Regards,


? -Paul


On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 06:11 PM, Simon Kidd wrote:

Hi All,

Happy New Year!

Its not started well for me I'm afraid!? I have a quite old G1 (DIN motor connectors but with slide switch on/off) and it has worked perfectly for a very long time, with frequent use. However, tonight I fired it up and it immediately showed 'SRAM FAILURE' for about a second, then 'WD RESET' thereafter, plus some beeping. The menu system works, but in an erratic way.? I tried changing the RTC battery, which was fine anyway, but this made no difference. I changed the EPROM for an old one I had (known to be ok) but this did not work either.? Everything is permanently set up, in an observatory, I checked supply voltage, which is fine .
I then plugged in my spare unit, with the? same hand controller, motors and cables....this works fine. (so at least? I can continue observing)
Any ideas what this fault is?....it looks 'serious'.....but if possible I'd like it? repaired!

Many thanks
Simon Kidd
Herts
UK


'SRAM failure +WD Reset' on Gemini 1

 

Hi All,

Happy New Year!

Its not started well for me I'm afraid!? I have a quite old G1 (DIN motor connectors but with slide switch on/off) and it has worked perfectly for a very long time, with frequent use. However, tonight I fired it up and it immediately showed 'SRAM FAILURE' for about a second, then 'WD RESET' thereafter, plus some beeping. The menu system works, but in an erratic way.? I tried changing the RTC battery, which was fine anyway, but this made no difference. I changed the EPROM for an old one I had (known to be ok) but this did not work either.? Everything is permanently set up, in an observatory, I checked supply voltage, which is fine .
I then plugged in my spare unit, with the? same hand controller, motors and cables....this works fine. (so at least? I can continue observing)
Any ideas what this fault is?....it looks 'serious'.....but if possible I'd like it? repaired!

Many thanks
Simon Kidd
Herts
UK


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

I would add that if you use warm start (or restart) on a regular basis, it's possible the limits can drift a bit


Brian

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:56 AM Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote:

Hi Dan,

This is from the Gemini 1 Level 4 manual, discussing the goto limit and safety limits:

The default value of zero means that the GoTo limit is set 2.5 degrees east of the western safety limit. Note: Use caution when setting the GoTo limit to values between 1 and 89 degrees. Such values would indicate points east of the meridian, and would mean that Gemini would try to point to objects between the GoTo limit (now in the eastern hemisphere) and the meridian with the telescope tube on the east side of the mount. It is possible that such objects would be unreachable without violating the eastern safety limit. Attempts to GoTo such objects in this situation would result in the telescope not moving, and?¡°*±õ²Ô³Ù±ð°ù°ù³Ü±è³Ù±ð»å*¡± being displayed on the hand controller.?

I suggest that you check your Goto and safety limit settings, as they are possibly preventing you from doing Goto's due to being too conservatively set.

Regards,

? ? ? -Paul

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:22 AM, Daniel Judge wrote:

I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

Hi Dan,

This is from the Gemini 1 Level 4 manual, discussing the goto limit and safety limits:

The default value of zero means that the GoTo limit is set 2.5 degrees east of the western safety limit. Note: Use caution when setting the GoTo limit to values between 1 and 89 degrees. Such values would indicate points east of the meridian, and would mean that Gemini would try to point to objects between the GoTo limit (now in the eastern hemisphere) and the meridian with the telescope tube on the east side of the mount. It is possible that such objects would be unreachable without violating the eastern safety limit. Attempts to GoTo such objects in this situation would result in the telescope not moving, and?¡°*±õ²Ô³Ù±ð°ù°ù³Ü±è³Ù±ð»å*¡± being displayed on the hand controller.?

I suggest that you check your Goto and safety limit settings, as they are possibly preventing you from doing Goto's due to being too conservatively set.

Regards,

? ? ? -Paul

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 11:22 AM, Daniel Judge wrote:

I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

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Ok interesting,
Not sure ?how that might occur as I covered all ports with tape to stop any small bugs getting within the controller. Everything does feel ¡®buggy¡¯ lately.

I can slew to some stars from CWD and slew home and back to CWD without issue. It made me wonder if this was too generic an error and could account for something else in error that isn¡¯t documented. It¡¯s just weird and annoying.

It¡¯s only temporary whilst waiting for a new mount to arrive more suited for remote operation. When I get a chance to revisit site, I¡¯ll pull things apart and make sure no signs of bugs, corrosion are present and check the battery.

Thanks


On 2 Jan 2022, at 01:52, Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:

?
Hi Dan,

The "interrupted" message in my experience says that a button was pressed during the slew.? It's how a user at the mount would stop a slew gone amok.?

Of course you have no real button as you are remote...but the Gemini got a signal or a glitch that it interpreted as a button press.? So it stopped it's slew.??

It should still know where it stopped...so try the slew again.

When you get to the physical mount, look for a damaged cable or a bug or corrosion in the handset, etc.? Something is generating that glitch signal.??

Of course, do not leave +DC power on the Gemini for a long period of time.? Moisture generates corrosion between dissimilar metals, but the rate of corrosion is greatly accelerated by DC voltage.??

Best if luck solving your?problem,

And happy 2022 too,

Michael

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022, 9:22 AM <dan@...> wrote:
I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?


Re: Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

Hi Dan,

The "interrupted" message in my experience says that a button was pressed during the slew.? It's how a user at the mount would stop a slew gone amok.?

Of course you have no real button as you are remote...but the Gemini got a signal or a glitch that it interpreted as a button press.? So it stopped it's slew.??

It should still know where it stopped...so try the slew again.

When you get to the physical mount, look for a damaged cable or a bug or corrosion in the handset, etc.? Something is generating that glitch signal.??

Of course, do not leave +DC power on the Gemini for a long period of time.? Moisture generates corrosion between dissimilar metals, but the rate of corrosion is greatly accelerated by DC voltage.??

Best if luck solving your?problem,

And happy 2022 too,

Michael

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022, 9:22 AM <dan@...> wrote:
I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?


Interrupt message on HC with Gemini 1

 

I've been using my mount in a remote installation lately, and often I will power the mount down and power up and connect to it when it's to be used.

I've just now encountered a constant interrupt message on the HC when I try to slew to stars around the sky with precise pointing and plate solving, sometimes some slews work others don't.
I can't work out why it's doing this, and I've never seen this before.
Everything looks to be Ok. I start Cold start from CWD, sync with GPS, and enter the correct site lat/long, I have the mount limits set to my best limits.
I am in the Southern Hemisphere. From south pole position, it will slew West to some stars, Ankaa, and Achernar.. but if I tell it to slew to rigel or Orion, the software says slewing, but the mount raises an 'Interrupted' message on the HC, and it doest nothing.
I'm using Gemini Level 4 v1.05 and the latest 1.0.84.0 .NET drivers.

Has anyone come across this HC message, or similar issue before?


Re: ASI Air Pro use on Gemini 1

 

Hi Nick

Yes, the rpi is just like any other PC in that regard, you can simply reinstall the OS (Rasbian or astroberry in this case). You should be able to find instructions online by searching for "reinstalling raspbian on RPI" for example.

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On Dec 29, 2021, 1:32 AM, Nick < nbill1797@...> wrote:

Hey Tino,

Hmmm...this may change my setup. I actually HAVE a rPi. It came with my telescope(used). The only problem is the previous owner couldn't tell me the password.?

Maybe I can dedicate the rPi to the G11 and simply use the AAP on another rig.?

By any chance would you know how to overcome a lost password on rPi? Maybe I can reflash the device???

Any further guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance
Nick


Re: ASI Air Pro use on Gemini 1

 

Nick you might just try downloading astroberry and installing it on your rPi, wiping the sd card in the process?

Brian


On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 4:32 PM Nick <nbill1797@...> wrote:
Hey Tino,

Hmmm...this may change my setup. I actually HAVE a rPi. It came with my telescope(used). The only problem is the previous owner couldn't tell me the password.?

Maybe I can dedicate the rPi to the G11 and simply use the AAP on another rig.?

By any chance would you know how to overcome a lost password on rPi? Maybe I can reflash the device???

Any further guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance
Nick

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Re: ASI Air Pro use on Gemini 1

Nick
 
Edited

Adding: the hardware I have is Raspberry Pi 3 Model B V1.2, 2015

CMD line reads as follows: dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait
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Re: ASI Air Pro use on Gemini 1

Nick
 

Good to know. Thanks Brian!


Re: ASI Air Pro use on Gemini 1

Nick
 

Hey Tino,

Hmmm...this may change my setup. I actually HAVE a rPi. It came with my telescope(used). The only problem is the previous owner couldn't tell me the password.?

Maybe I can dedicate the rPi to the G11 and simply use the AAP on another rig.?

By any chance would you know how to overcome a lost password on rPi? Maybe I can reflash the device???

Any further guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance
Nick


Re: ASI Air Pro use on Gemini 1

 

Michael

Astroberry pi vs stellarmate pi

https://indilib.org/forum/general/6858-stellarmate-vs-astroberry-what-is-the-difference.html

Chuck
On Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 02:04:13 PM PST, Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:


Thank you guys for your insights and success stories.

I'll get into the jam in 2022 (raspberry jam anyways)

Happy?Holidays!

Michael

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 2:58 PM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
>>>?Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

In a very general sense, yes. But ZWO took the Indian foundation and built apps on top of it, so it¡¯s customized to the point that you wouldn¡¯t recognize it compared to say ekos.?

AAP definitely has the self-contained feel. The apps are functional and work well together (provided you only use ASI cameras, focuses, etc. though it does work with other mounts including Gemini).?

However, if you want to do something else, you are stuck. For example, their version of PHD was pulled from the open source repository some time ago, so the latest features are unavailable and some basic capabilities are limited (e.g., no backlash compensation).?

For people who enjoy fiddling or tuning things, the rPi approach is probably a better (and less expensive) approach



On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:32 PM Tino Heuberger via <tinoheuberger=[email protected]> wrote:
Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

If so it should be running linux with INDI, EKOS and KSTARS.
You will have to install the INDi Driver (INDI is the equivalent of ASCOM on linux) for your mount then.

They can usually be found on the github repo here (with instructions to install them):



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On Tuesday, December 28th, 2021 at 9:21 PM, Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:
Nick,

Not having an ASI Air, I cannot say.
You'll have to experiment, or contact ZWO for their ASIAir instructions.

The Gemini-1 uses only a standard serial port at 9600 baud to pass instructions back and forth. The Gemini sysrem takes its own instruction set. That instruction set was based on the earlier Meade instruction set. Paul K is the real expert in this area.

ASCOM has these instructions in it's Gemini.net driver interface.

If some other group member knows how these parts (ASI air and Gemini-1) all fit together, please let us know the right way for Nick to proceed.

Happy holidays and a safe New Year,

Michael



On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 1:10 PM Nick <nbill1797@...> wrote:

Michael and Howard,

Thanks for the reply. It did take a few reboots to get back on track. It¡¯ll be a week or so before we have clear skies to test the system.


Are there any concerns running the Gemini 1 on the ASI air pro platform? I¡¯m not plugged into a laptop or hand controller when running.

Thanks
Nick


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