Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Gracias 搁别苍é!! I have seen the advices from Tom Hilton, but I will try first this advice from you, it seems easier.. Thank you very much! ? Miguel Angel Pérez Hernández
Alpha Cygni S.L.
c/ San Agustín, 23
38410 - Los Realejos
S.C. de Tenerife
Islas Canarias - Espa?a
Tlf/fax: 0034 922 34 30 38
? ?nete a Betacygni, la trastienda: ?
De: Rene Goerlich
Para: Gemini-II@...
Enviado: jue,10 febrero, 2011 18:13
Asunto: Re: [Gemini-II] Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
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Hola Miguel,
From your description I think that your partner flashed the wrong file
(that for the mainboard?) into the HC.
Good news is, that you can recover from this condition. Bad news is,
that you have to open up the HC (4 screws).
Once you've removed the cover plate, you can find a microSD card at the
left bottom of the circuit board.
Press slightly against it and it will come out.
You can then put the latest firmware file gemhc.bin onto the card (the
root directory). You may need a microSD card adapter for your PC.
After repowering the HC over Gemini it will flash the new file within
seconds and the HC should work again.
搁别苍é
Miguel Angel Pérez Hernández schrieb:
?
Hi
搁别苍é, thank you very much for your answer, I explain you:
At this moment I have not the controller or HC, I will try to go to the
observatory early tomorrow to check it along these days, we will like
to work with it on the observatory the next Tuesday..
When we power on the Main Board with the HC connected to the 2nd serial
port, the screen is on, but we don?t receive any message, any info,
nothing.. we touch it, but it doesn?t response, but it is bright, no
dark..
We think it is a problem with the firmware ..?? My partner (not me) has
tried to upload the firmware that I found in the "Files" section on the
group but he said me that he has not reached apparent results.
I will? take the relief with this matter and try to solve this, but I
am slightly lost with the process to upload the firmware if it was
necessary.
I have spoken with a responsible of the project and he has confirmed me
that he could access to the Main Controller (I understand this) through
the network connection..
Ok, the next step is take the Gemini and try, if I have new doubts or
problems I will ask in the list.. But if you have any advice about the
firmware check or upload, I would appreciate it very much..
Regards!
?
Miguel Angel
Pérez Hernández
Alpha Cygni S.L.
c/ San Agustín, 23
38410 - Los Realejos
S.C. de Tenerife
Islas Canarias - Espa?a
Tlf/fax: 0034 922 34 30 38
?
?nete a Betacygni, la trastienda: ?
De: Rene
Goerlich
Para:
Gemini-II@...
Enviado: jue,10
febrero, 2011 13:01
Asunto: Re:
[Gemini-II] Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
?
Hi Miguel,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything
on
the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load
the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
So you can access the web server, but the HC stays dark?
What you can check:
- Is the HC connected to the correct port (second serial port)?
- Does the cable used has all 6 wires connected (straight RJ12/6P6C)?
- if the above is correct, you can open the G2 cover plate and check if
jumper JP2 is set correctly (middle and right contacts closed
vertically), since this provides the power to the port.
搁别苍é
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Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Tom, Thank you very much for your email. I have a "new" Micro SD card with adapter, I think I can use this to redo the SDRam card.. A step by step instruction is always wellcome, but I understand that is: 1. Format it with FAT system file 2. Copy the gemhc.bin to the root in the directory of the SD card. 3. Then I?m not sure if I need to copy the contents of "HC_SD_card.zip" too in the Card..? Advices are always wellcome!! Regards! ? Miguel Angel Pérez Hernández
Alpha Cygni S.L.
c/ San Agustín, 23
38410 - Los Realejos
S.C. de
Tenerife
Islas Canarias - Espa?a
Tlf/fax: 0034 922 34 30 38
? ?nete a Betacygni, la trastienda: ?
De: "tom@..."
Para:
Gemini-II@...
Enviado: jue,10 febrero, 2011 18:10
Asunto: Re: [Gemini-II] Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
?
Miguel
when you go to the site where the Gemini 2 is, try and take an
SDcard reader with you.? You may have to remove the SDcard from
the hand controller and do the update the hard way.? That would
involve redoing the SDRam card.? It is not that had of a process.?
You could even prepare a sub-directory on your computer with an
image of the complete SD card before you go.? Then all you would
have to do is remove the card from the hand controller, format it
with FAT File system, copy the files over to it, and put it back
into the hand controller.?? If you need I can post the step by
step instruction on how to generate the image of the SD card, or
better yet I will try and put up the latest
Handcontroller SD image, with the latest firmware change.?? You
will also need to make the main controller have the latest
firmware update to match the hand controller.
Tom Hilton
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Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hola Miguel,
From your description I think that your partner flashed the wrong file
(that for the mainboard?) into the HC.
Good news is, that you can recover from this condition. Bad news is,
that you have to open up the HC (4 screws).
Once you've removed the cover plate, you can find a microSD card at the
left bottom of the circuit board.
Press slightly against it and it will come out.
You can then put the latest firmware file gemhc.bin onto the card (the
root directory). You may need a microSD card adapter for your PC.
After repowering the HC over Gemini it will flash the new file within
seconds and the HC should work again.
搁别苍é
Miguel Angel Pérez Hernández schrieb:
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Show quoted text
?
Hi
搁别苍é, thank you very much for your answer, I explain you:
At this moment I have not the controller or HC, I will try to go to the
observatory early tomorrow to check it along these days, we will like
to work with it on the observatory the next Tuesday..
When we power on the Main Board with the HC connected to the 2nd serial
port, the screen is on, but we don?t receive any message, any info,
nothing.. we touch it, but it doesn?t response, but it is bright, no
dark..
We think it is a problem with the firmware ..?? My partner (not me) has
tried to upload the firmware that I found in the "Files" section on the
group but he said me that he has not reached apparent results.
I will? take the relief with this matter and try to solve this, but I
am slightly lost with the process to upload the firmware if it was
necessary.
I have spoken with a responsible of the project and he has confirmed me
that he could access to the Main Controller (I understand this) through
the network connection..
Ok, the next step is take the Gemini and try, if I have new doubts or
problems I will ask in the list.. But if you have any advice about the
firmware check or upload, I would appreciate it very much..
Regards!
?
Miguel Angel
Pérez Hernández
Alpha Cygni S.L.
c/ San Agustín, 23
38410 - Los Realejos
S.C. de Tenerife
Islas Canarias - Espa?a
Tlf/fax: 0034 922 34 30 38
?
?nete a Betacygni, la trastienda: ?
De: Rene
Goerlich
Para:
Gemini-II@...
Enviado: jue,10
febrero, 2011 13:01
Asunto: Re:
[Gemini-II] Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
?
Hi Miguel,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything
on
the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load
the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
So you can access the web server, but the HC stays dark?
What you can check:
- Is the HC connected to the correct port (second serial port)?
- Does the cable used has all 6 wires connected (straight RJ12/6P6C)?
- if the above is correct, you can open the G2 cover plate and check if
jumper JP2 is set correctly (middle and right contacts closed
vertically), since this provides the power to the port.
搁别苍é
|
Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Miguel
when you go to the site where the Gemini 2 is, try and take an
SDcard reader with you.? You may have to remove the SDcard from
the hand controller and do the update the hard way.? That would
involve redoing the SDRam card.? It is not that had of a process.?
You could even prepare a sub-directory on your computer with an
image of the complete SD card before you go.? Then all you would
have to do is remove the card from the hand controller, format it
with FAT File system, copy the files over to it, and put it back
into the hand controller.?? If you need I can post the step by
step instruction on how to generate the image of the SD card, or
better yet I will try and put up the latest
Handcontroller SD image, with the latest firmware change.?? You
will also need to make the main controller have the latest
firmware update to match the hand controller.
Tom Hilton
|
Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hi 搁别苍é, thank you very much for your answer, I explain you: At this moment I have not the controller or HC, I will try to go to the observatory early tomorrow to check it along these days, we will like to work with it on the observatory the next Tuesday.. When we power on the Main Board with the HC connected to the 2nd serial port, the screen is on, but we don?t receive any message, any info, nothing.. we touch it, but it doesn?t response, but it is bright, no dark.. We think it is a problem with the firmware ..?? My partner (not me) has tried to upload the firmware that I found in the "Files" section on the group but he said me that he has not reached apparent results. I will? take the relief with this matter and try to solve this, but I am slightly lost with the
process to upload the firmware if it was necessary. I have spoken with a responsible of the project and he has confirmed me that he could access to the Main Controller (I understand this) through the network connection.. Ok, the next step is take the Gemini and try, if I have new doubts or problems I will ask in the list.. But if you have any advice about the firmware check or upload, I would appreciate it very much.. Regards! ? Miguel Angel Pérez Hernández
Alpha Cygni S.L.
c/ San Agustín, 23
38410 - Los Realejos
S.C. de Tenerife
Islas Canarias - Espa?a
Tlf/fax: 0034 922 34 30 38
? ?nete a Betacygni, la trastienda: ?
De: Rene Goerlich
Para: Gemini-II@...
Enviado: jue,10 febrero, 2011 13:01
Asunto: Re: [Gemini-II] Gemini 2 in
our hands... Anything on display...
?
Hi Miguel,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything on
the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load
the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
So you can access the web server, but the HC stays dark?
What you can check:
- Is the HC connected to the correct port (second serial port)?
- Does the cable used has all 6 wires connected (straight RJ12/6P6C)?
- if the above is correct, you can open the G2 cover plate and check if
jumper JP2 is set correctly (middle and right contacts closed
vertically), since this provides the power to the port.
搁别苍é
|
Re: Where are the Gemini Twos?
I ordered my G11 with Gemini-2 yesterday. The dealer said to expect an April/May delivery. I don't know how this compares for deliveries of just the Gemini-2 upgrade. Around the time you ordered I think they were saying Feb/Mar deliveries. As to actual deliveries I have no idea.
Gale
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--- In Gemini-II@..., "dawziecat" <dawziecat@...> wrote:
Are they actually shipping in any numbers yet? I placed an order with Astronomics the day after they were listed on Losmondy's home site. Any idea how long I will have to wait?
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Re: Support for the original four-button controller
Join the gemini 2 users group, then goto the photo section
Good day
Tom Hilton
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message----- From: John Nassr <jnassr2010@...>
To: Gemini-II@...
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 14:14:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Support for the original four-button controller
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Hello Rene,
Thank you for your reply!? Wonderful and good to know. Is a picture of the tactile membrane available anywhere?
John
--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Rene Goerlich <Rene@...> wrote:
From: Rene Goerlich <Rene@...>
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Support for the original four-button controller
To: Gemini-II@...
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:48 PM
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Hi John,
|
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the
original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details
regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or
interface with the original four button controller that has tactile
feel even in the dark?
|
It has. Just plug the classic HC into the port into the button at the
bottom.
|
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does
this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture
of this tactile membrane?
|
This is the same type of membrane as the DeLuxe HC with the display had.
|
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger
tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer
screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button
controller ideal for my needs.
|
I love it, escpecially at the eyepiece with the classic HC in the
pocket. Also, the graphic HC now has a screen lock that you can operate
the buttons without looking at the display.
Best,
搁别苍é
|
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Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
--- In Gemini-II@..., Dave Sandage <dave@...> wrote:
Hi Wojtek,
I have successfully connected a Gemini 2 to my wireless network using a
TrendNet access point in AP-client mode. In this mode it basically acts as
a media converter to go from WiFi to Ethernet. I connected an Ethernet
cable from Gemini 2 to the AP and the Gemini now appears on my wireless
network. There are other products (sometimes called WiFi Bridges) that do
the same thing. There is no additional functionality in the Gemini device -
it just talks out its Ethernet port. Theoretically any wireless adapter
that claims to allow wired ethernet devices to access WiFi should work.
Dave S.
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, wojciechklimkiewicz <kwojciec@...>wrote:
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol
and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside
(cold weather imaging!).
From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!: "1.
Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub, switch,
router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work?
Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
Thanks Dave, Thanks Rene, Finally, the wireless control is getting to the mainstream of astro-imaging. I also have to solve my SBIG camera and RoboFocus wireless connections, but that probably is not the subject for this group. Wojtek K.
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Re: Support for the original four-button controller
Hello Rene,
Thank you for your reply!? Wonderful and good to know. Is a picture of the tactile membrane available anywhere?
John
|
--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Rene Goerlich wrote:
From: Rene Goerlich
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Support for the original four-button controller
To: Gemini-II@...
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 1:48 PM
?
Hi John,
|
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the
original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details
regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or
interface with the original four button controller that has tactile
feel even in the dark?
|
It has. Just plug the classic HC into the port into the button at the
bottom.
|
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does
this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture
of this tactile membrane?
|
This is the same type of membrane as the DeLuxe HC with the display had.
|
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger
tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer
screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button
controller ideal for my needs.
|
I love it, escpecially at the eyepiece with the classic HC in the
pocket. Also, the graphic HC now has a screen lock that you can operate
the buttons without looking at the display.
Best,
搁别苍é
|
Re: Support for the original four-button controller
Hi John,
|
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the
original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details
regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or
interface with the original four button controller that has tactile
feel even in the dark?
|
It has. Just plug the classic HC into the port into the button at the
bottom.
|
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does
this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture
of this tactile membrane?
|
This is the same type of membrane as the DeLuxe HC with the display had.
|
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger
tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer
screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button
controller ideal for my needs.
|
I love it, escpecially at the eyepiece with the classic HC in the
pocket. Also, the graphic HC now has a screen lock that you can operate
the buttons without looking at the display.
Best,
搁别苍é
|
Support for the original four-button controller
Hi,
The Losmandy Gemini 2 web page includes a feature item: Support for the original four-button controller. Would anyone have more details regarding this feature? Does it mean that Gemini 2 can accommodate or interface with the original four button controller that has tactile feel even in the dark?
The new hand controller features a "tactile membrane on the rear". Does this mean it has the same feel as the original HC? Is there a picture of this tactile membrane?
My main concern is being able to feel the four buttons with my finger tips during planet imaging without having take my eyes off the computer screen and look at the HC. I find the original HC four button controller ideal for my needs.
Best regards,
John
John
|
|
Re: Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hi Miguel,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything on
the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load
the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
So you can access the web server, but the HC stays dark?
What you can check:
- Is the HC connected to the correct port (second serial port)?
- Does the cable used has all 6 wires connected (straight RJ12/6P6C)?
- if the above is correct, you can open the G2 cover plate and check if
jumper JP2 is set correctly (middle and right contacts closed
vertically), since this provides the power to the port.
搁别苍é
|
Gemini 2 in our hands... Anything on display...
Hi everybody,
We have received the new Gemini 2, but we can not see anything on the screen, as if the Gemini was empty. One partner has tried to load the drivers or firmware, but we are not sure if we are doing it well.
Any advice?
Thanks!
Miguel
|
Where are the Gemini Twos?
Are they actually shipping in any numbers yet? I placed an order with Astronomics the day after they were listed on Losmondy's home site. Any idea how long I will have to wait?
|
Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
FWIW
?
AP-Client mode is the normal mode used by most wireless routers
and take a WAN connection to create a local network that has access to that WAN
connection (typically your CABLE or DSL Modem)
a WiFI Bridge is a a wireless router that is typically used to
extend your wireless network to multiple routers but you use the same
subnets? (ie.? they all service the 192.168.0.x? CLASS C subnet)
if you try this same thing with a AP what you get is the first router
may be on the 192.168.0.x subnet but the second router would have to be on say
the 192.168.1.x subnet
very simplified but for those who wonder or care is a basic of
what the two devices do.
?
Doug
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From:
Gemini-II@... [mailto:Gemini-II@...] On Behalf Of Dave
Sandage
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:24 PM
To: Gemini-II@...
Subject: Re: [Gemini-II] Wireless connection to Gemini II
?
?
Hi Wojtek,
I have successfully connected a Gemini 2 to my wireless network using a
TrendNet access point in AP-client mode.? In this mode it basically acts
as a media converter to go from WiFi to Ethernet.? I connected an Ethernet
cable from Gemini 2 to the AP and the Gemini now appears on my wireless
network.? There are other products (sometimes called WiFi Bridges) that do
the same thing.? There is no additional functionality in the Gemini device
- it just talks out its Ethernet port.? Theoretically any wireless adapter
that claims to allow wired ethernet devices to access WiFi should work.
Dave S.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, wojciechklimkiewicz < kwojciec@...> wrote:
?
I have Losmandy G11 with
Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol and consider buying Gemnini
II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside
(cold weather imaging!).
>From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!:
"1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub,
switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work?
Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
?
|
Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
Hi Wojtek,
I have successfully connected a Gemini 2 to my wireless network using a TrendNet access point in AP-client mode.? In this mode it basically acts as a media converter to go from WiFi to Ethernet.? I connected an Ethernet cable from Gemini 2 to the AP and the Gemini now appears on my wireless network.? There are other products (sometimes called WiFi Bridges) that do the same thing.? There is no additional functionality in the Gemini device - it just talks out its Ethernet port.? Theoretically any wireless adapter that claims to allow wired ethernet devices to access WiFi should work.
Dave S.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, wojciechklimkiewicz <kwojciec@...> wrote:
?
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside (cold weather imaging!).
From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!: "1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub, switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work? Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
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Re: Wireless connection to Gemini II
Wojtek,
?
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP
protocol and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope
ouside (cold weather imaging!).
>From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do
it!: "1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a
hub, switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will
work? Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
You have to connect G2 to your network over the Ethernet port,
but.there are adapters from cable to wireless available on the market.
搁别苍é
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Wireless connection to Gemini II
I have Losmandy G11 with Gemini I and wireless network with DHCP protocol and consider buying Gemnini II.
Interesting for me is wireless connection from home to the telecsope ouside (cold weather imaging!).
From the quick manual of Gemini II it is not clear to me how to do it!: "1. Connect the Gemini 2 unit to the existing network through a hub, switch, router or wireless adapter."
Does it mean that any wireless adapter connected to the USB port will work? Does this means that this service is build in the Gemini firmware?
Can anybody answer that?
Thanks,
Wojtek from PA
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Re: Question about Gemini II diver
Yes, Bill. The latest version of the driver supports both versions of Gemini.
Regards,
On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:22 PM, "BillB" < wbabab@...> wrote:
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If I update my Gemini driver to the II version will it work with Gemini I. Or should I have two drivers?
Bill
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Question about Gemini II diver
If I update my Gemini driver to the II version will it work with Gemini I. Or should I have two drivers?
Bill
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Paul Kanevsky