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[OpenDV] ircDDB-Server currently down

 

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FYI

Terry M Stader KA8SCP
WB1GOF Repeaters Proprietor?

Begin forwarded message:

From: [email protected]
Date: December 8, 2023 at 6:05:51?AM EST
To: "Terry M. Stader" <ka8scp@...>
Subject: [OpenDV] [email protected] Digest #489

ircDDB-Server currently down
From: Hans-Juergen
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2023 12:52:15 EST

Hi!
It is already some time ago that I wrote here at this place.

Just a quick note for those who have their DSTAR gateways connected to the ircDDB network:
The ircDDB webserver crashed yesterday early morning.

We have already a new cloud system running parallel since beginning of the year, but still did not do the final step and move all data to that system.

I talked to our provider and they found that the hardware where our old VM runs on is completly down.

They will need a few hours to fix it and we will hopefully see it back shortly.

The ircDDB network still works full functional, the IRC servers in the 2 groups are up, but status pages and the registration system are currently not available.

Michael DL1BFF fixed an issue with the dynamic DNS feature which was reported, it should work now again.

We decided to take this issue as a final trigger and complete the move to the cloud system within next days.

The old server still run an outdated CentOS version with very old perl and php scripts. This needs to be adjusted to work on current supported Linux versions.

The server was on air 24/7 since 2015 without any real failure.

Before we had 2 servers located in Switzerland for some years and at the early beginning in 2008 we started on a server from the German Amateur Radio Club.

We hope to have the old system back again tomorrow and want to switch to the new cloud based system until Christmas:

With that we should hopefully be save for another 8 years. :-)

73 de Hans DL5DI

ircDDB team


Re: install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

Yes, the availability of Pi’s continues to be a problem. I see Amazon is selling a 3B+ for $69, basically double the intended sales price.

And if you thought you might someday want to configure for more than one DV mode, while the 3B+ has plenty of horsepower for D-Star, DMR, C4FM, NXDN etc, the new open source mode M17 requires a faster CPU, like the Pi 4. Amazon is selling a 4B 2019 2GB Pi for $75.

I would have thought these supply chain problems that started when Covid-19 took off would have been solved by mid-2023, but apparently not.

Since your goal is D-Star, you have a lot of choices. Good luck.

Jim – K6JM

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jose Alves - CT1FHW
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2023 3:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [G3-ircDDBGateway] install a ircddbgateway from scratch

Hi Jim,
I like to have multiple options over the table, since my goal is to help to increase the D-star network. I don't care if "you" are a REF or XLX defender, so all the options are an option.
I have tested it with a raspberry pi,it is easy to deploy and manage, the only problems with pi's is the lack of them on the market and the price. So I'm trying to reuse discomissied NUC PC to do the job.

Jim - K6JM via <jmm=mailto:[email protected]> escreveu no dia quarta, 7/06/2023 à(s) 20:09:
Jose,

I think you have already decided not to use a Pi and the Pi-Star image to provide a D-Star gateway that supports multiple reflector protocols like DExtra, DCS, etc. as well as DPlus.

Just a note – we are running a Pi 3B and Pi-Star for our club repeater and have had no problems. In our case, we chose to enable Multi-Mode, but the Pi-Star image also allows configuration of the original G4KLX software (DStarRepeater and ircDDBGateway). What is nice about the Pi-Star image is the ease of remotely managing the repeater.

But your plan to run the intel pc will also work, though you will have more setup work manually compiling the G4KLX source.

In any case, good luck with your project.

Jim – K6JM

From: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jose Alves - CT1FHW
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2023 6:46 AM
To: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: [G3-ircDDBGateway] install a ircddbgateway from scratch

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC) to replace of the original Icom G3 Software.
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves


Re: install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

Hi Jim,?
I like to have multiple options over the table, since my goal is to help to increase?the D-star network. I don't care if "you" are a REF or XLX defender, so all the options are an option.?
I have tested it with a raspberry pi,it is easy to deploy and manage, the only problems with pi's is the lack of them on the market and the price. So I'm trying to reuse?discomissied NUC PC to do the job.

Jim - K6JM via <jmm=[email protected]> escreveu no dia quarta, 7/06/2023 à(s) 20:09:

Jose,

?

I think you have already decided not to use a Pi and the Pi-Star image to provide a D-Star gateway that supports multiple reflector protocols like DExtra, DCS, etc. as well as DPlus.?

?

Just a note – we are running a Pi 3B and Pi-Star for our club repeater and have had no problems.? In our case, we chose to enable Multi-Mode, but the Pi-Star image also allows configuration of the original G4KLX software (DStarRepeater and ircDDBGateway).? What is nice about the Pi-Star image is the ease of remotely managing the repeater.

?

But your plan to run the intel pc will also work, though you will have more setup work manually compiling the G4KLX source.?

?

In any case, good luck with your project.

?

??? Jim – K6JM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jose Alves - CT1FHW
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2023 6:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [G3-ircDDBGateway] install a ircddbgateway from scratch

?

Hello everyone,?

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC)? to replace?of the original Icom G3 Software.?
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.?
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves

?


Re: install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

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Jose,

?

I think you have already decided not to use a Pi and the Pi-Star image to provide a D-Star gateway that supports multiple reflector protocols like DExtra, DCS, etc. as well as DPlus.?

?

Just a note – we are running a Pi 3B and Pi-Star for our club repeater and have had no problems.? In our case, we chose to enable Multi-Mode, but the Pi-Star image also allows configuration of the original G4KLX software (DStarRepeater and ircDDBGateway).? What is nice about the Pi-Star image is the ease of remotely managing the repeater.

?

But your plan to run the intel pc will also work, though you will have more setup work manually compiling the G4KLX source.?

?

In any case, good luck with your project.

?

??? Jim – K6JM

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jose Alves - CT1FHW
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2023 6:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [G3-ircDDBGateway] install a ircddbgateway from scratch

?

Hello everyone,?

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC)? to replace?of the original Icom G3 Software.?
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.?
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves

?


Re: install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

Do you know where we go? Lisbon O'Porto, Faro?

Terry M. Stader <ka8scp@...> escreveu no dia quarta, 7/06/2023 à(s) 18:35:

厂耻谤别…?

Have a D-STAR friend who is coming to Portugal soon… he was asking my about D-STAR there. I gave him your email, his call is AA1HO. Maybe he will reach out to you?

Terry M Stader KA8SCP
WB1GOF Repeaters Proprietor?

On Jun 7, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Jose Alves - CT1FHW <ct1fhw@...> wrote:

?
Hi Terry,?

I will check later on.
Thanks.

Best regards?

Jose Alves?
CT1FHW?

A quarta, 7/06/2023, 14:01, Terry M. Stader <ka8scp@...> escreveu:
Jose, maybe G4KLX’s GitHub site has the info you need??

Terry M Stader KA8SCP
WB1GOF Repeaters Proprietor?

On May 28, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Jose Alves - CT1FHW <ct1fhw@...> wrote:

?Hello everyone,?

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC)? to replace?of the original Icom G3 Software.?
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.?
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves


Re: install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

Hi Terry,?

I will check later on.
Thanks.

Best regards?

Jose Alves?
CT1FHW?

A quarta, 7/06/2023, 14:01, Terry M. Stader <ka8scp@...> escreveu:

Jose, maybe G4KLX’s GitHub site has the info you need??

Terry M Stader KA8SCP
WB1GOF Repeaters Proprietor?

On May 28, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Jose Alves - CT1FHW <ct1fhw@...> wrote:

?Hello everyone,?

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC)? to replace?of the original Icom G3 Software.?
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.?
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves


Re: install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

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Jose, maybe G4KLX’s GitHub site has the info you need??

Terry M Stader KA8SCP
WB1GOF Repeaters Proprietor?

On May 28, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Jose Alves - CT1FHW <ct1fhw@...> wrote:

?Hello everyone,?

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC)? to replace?of the original Icom G3 Software.?
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.?
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves


install a ircddbgateway from scratch

 

Hello everyone,?

I'm trying to setup a little PC(intel NUC)? to replace?of the original Icom G3 Software.?
I have search on the web but I can't find a step by step. I seams everyone is adopting the Pistar.
I have found a outdated document with old URLs.?
I would like to have a setup that allow the users to go the others reflectors (XLX, DCS, XRF) beside the REF.
Those anyone have a document or could point me in the right direction?

Best regards

Jose Alves


Re: Help needed for G4KLX software on CentOS 7...

 

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Maybe check the “permissions” of the two init.d files. As a test, make them executable using the “chmod +x timeserverd” and “chmod +x ircddbgatewayd” (or whatever their names actually are).

Terry

On Mar 22, 2023, at 5:46 PM, f5hcc <f5hcc@...> wrote:

?Hello Jorge.

Yes, I did.

FYI, APRSGateway, ircDDBGateway and Timeserver fine are running fine, but I have to start each program "manually".

When I try to use the script files from DL5DI to start the programs as services at boot, it doesn't work.

The scripts files are started , but I got an error for each script ("Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/rc.d/init.d/timeserver : No such file or directory"?and "Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/rc.d/init.d/ircddbgateway : No such file or directory").

It looks like something is wrong either in the script files or in the location of programs...

I checked the location of the programs (timeserverd and ircddbgatewayd), they are in the good directory.

I am not good enough at Linux to understand where is the problem !

Maybe, the script files were written for CentOS 5, and as I'm using CentOS 7, they are not compatible.

Thank you for your help !

Fabrice, F5HCC.


Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

Hi Randy.

Thanks a lot for the feedback.

I will forward it to DStar France team.

73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.


Re: Help needed for G4KLX software on CentOS 7...

 

Hello Jorge.

Yes, I did.

FYI, APRSGateway, ircDDBGateway and Timeserver fine are running fine, but I have to start each program "manually".

When I try to use the script files from DL5DI to start the programs as services at boot, it doesn't work.

The scripts files are started , but I got an error for each script ("Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/rc.d/init.d/timeserver : No such file or directory"?and "Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/rc.d/init.d/ircddbgateway : No such file or directory").

It looks like something is wrong either in the script files or in the location of programs...

I checked the location of the programs (timeserverd and ircddbgatewayd), they are in the good directory.

I am not good enough at Linux to understand where is the problem !

Maybe, the script files were written for CentOS 5, and as I'm using CentOS 7, they are not compatible.

Thank you for your help !

Fabrice, F5HCC.


Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

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Hi Fabrice,

Here is what I found:

If you do this update, there might be an issue whereby the Pi-Star thinks your callsign has become M1ABC.? You'll know because at the top of the main dashboard screen, it says: "Pi-Star Digtal Voice Dashboard for M1ABC"?? instead of using your personal callsign.

I found that you can fix this by manually editing the following file:

/var/www/dashboard/config/ircddblocal.php

In that file...change the M1ABC to your own callsign.? Then reboot.

You might want to pass this along to the DStar France team who makes the bash script.

Again, thanks for sending this message to the group.? And for sending it in English for us.

Randy - W4LKS

On 3/20/2023 6:16 PM, Randy-W4LKS wrote:

I was able to download and use this bash script from DStar France.? It worked great.? Just use the browser translator to show you the page in your language.

Thanks very much for this link.? Now we can update the MMDVMHost software in Pi-Star easily.? The newest MMDVMHost source code from Jonathon-G4KLX includes a timing flaw fix for D-STAR that causes dropouts in busy nets.? The fix was added to the MMDVMHost github page in Jan 2023.

My Pi-Star now shows it is using MMDVMHost version 4.2.0.? And is working just fine.

Randy-W4LKS
Washington Digital Radio Enthusiasts ARC
Spokane, WA

On 3/20/2023 1:43 PM, Danny Oudendag wrote:

Download does not work certificate is not trusted anymore ?

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Verzonden vanuit voor Windows

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Van: f5hcc
Verzonden: maandag 20 maart 2023 13:11
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [G3-ircDDBGateway] Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

?

Hello Jim.

As Pi-Star hasn't been updated till June 2021, a French team (Dstar-France.fr) has written a script that updates all G4KLX software in Pi-Star.

The info can be found here :?

Unfortunately, it is written in French, but of course the embedded Linux command lines can be used.

If a translation is needed, I will ask the team their agreement.

73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.

?


Re: Help needed for G4KLX software on CentOS 7...

 

Do you create the user 'mmdvm' ?


Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

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I was able to download and use this bash script from DStar France.? It worked great.? Just use the browser translator to show you the page in your language.

Thanks very much for this link.? Now we can update the MMDVMHost software in Pi-Star easily.? The newest MMDVMHost source code from Jonathon-G4KLX includes a timing flaw fix for D-STAR that causes dropouts in busy nets.? The fix was added to the MMDVMHost github page in Jan 2023.

My Pi-Star now shows it is using MMDVMHost version 4.2.0.? And is working just fine.

Randy-W4LKS
Washington Digital Radio Enthusiasts ARC
Spokane, WA

On 3/20/2023 1:43 PM, Danny Oudendag wrote:

Download does not work certificate is not trusted anymore ?

?

Verzonden vanuit voor Windows

?

Van: f5hcc
Verzonden: maandag 20 maart 2023 13:11
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [G3-ircDDBGateway] Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

?

Hello Jim.

As Pi-Star hasn't been updated till June 2021, a French team (Dstar-France.fr) has written a script that updates all G4KLX software in Pi-Star.

The info can be found here :?

Unfortunately, it is written in French, but of course the embedded Linux command lines can be used.

If a translation is needed, I will ask the team their agreement.

73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.

?


Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

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Download does not work certificate is not trusted anymore ?

?

Verzonden vanuit voor Windows

?

Van: f5hcc
Verzonden: maandag 20 maart 2023 13:11
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [G3-ircDDBGateway] Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

?

Hello Jim.

As Pi-Star hasn't been updated till June 2021, a French team (Dstar-France.fr) has written a script that updates all G4KLX software in Pi-Star.

The info can be found here :?

Unfortunately, it is written in French, but of course the embedded Linux command lines can be used.

If a translation is needed, I will ask the team their agreement.

73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.

?


Help needed for G4KLX software on CentOS 7...

 

Hello.
?
I succesfully installed G4KLX software (ircDDBGateway, APRSGateway, Timeserver) on a PC running with CentOS7 (I will add ICOM G3 later), but I have a problem at boot.
?
I followed the instructions in "Transition to a blended G3 + ircDDBGateway environment" written by Keith VA3YC ("Transition to a blended G3.pdf"), but when timeserver.service and ircddbgateway.service are launched at boot (both programs are launched as services), I got an error "Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/rc.d/init.d/timeserver : No such file or directory" and "Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/rc.d/init.d/ircddbgateway : No such file or directory".
?
Both services are exited with "control process exited, code=exited status=203".
?
Of course, the files and directories do exist !!!
?
Any idea ?
?
73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.
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Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

Hello Jim.

As Pi-Star hasn't been updated till June 2021, a French team (Dstar-France.fr) has written a script that updates all G4KLX software in Pi-Star.

The info can be found here :?

Unfortunately, it is written in French, but of course the embedded Linux command lines can be used.

If a translation is needed, I will ask the team their agreement.

73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.


Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

Fabrice,

Yes, while Pi-Star is mostly up to date with the latest G4KLX MultiMode software versions, including the very new M17 mode, it is not up to date with the older G4KLX D-Star only software. It is not helped by the fact that G4KLX only makes the older programs available as source code. In the past, he also distributed a binary version compiled for Intel/Windows, and another ham would also compile for Intel/Linux, so all we had to do is download binaries.

Pi-Star was built for home-based hotspots, but I am finding new MultiMode repeaters are also using it. The main drawback is the Administrative password is the only protection to keep non-administrators out of the admin function. The main advantage is Andy takes care of all the updating and it is really easy to administrate.

I am an administrator that prefers software stability over the latest version. In the D-Star world, there are very few features being added, at least not features our repeater users are asking for.

But I understand different repeaters have different purposes and different user requirements. We are lucky to have so many choices.

There are several sources of the latest gateways and their IP addresses. I have seen a few articles about how to use these other sources on Pi-Star using automated updates.

Good luck on the new system in the center of Paris. Sounds like a fun project!

Jim – K6JM

PS One comment – since your use of G3 will be to have callsign registration, you will need to identify the Linux tasks that need to be stopped so ircDDBGateway can function as the gateway. If you can’t find the list, I can find that information, since I needed to know that when I loaded G3 onto a Cloud VM in order to run the registration app and database on a machine that of course did not have any gateway software.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of f5hcc
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [G3-ircDDBGateway] Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

Good Afternoon Jim.

Thank you for your feedback.

I will use your experience to do the things right !

I am already running a D-Star repeater (till many years now !) based on non-ICOM hardware, 2 TAIT Radios, a GMSK modem and a RPi. Software is G4KLX software suite under PiOS (no Pi-Star !).

All this is running fine, the only drawback is to have to update manually on a regular basis the IP addresses of the reflectors.

On the other hand, I bought an ICOM configuration (RP2C, RP2000V, RP4000V) that has been dismantled in Paris a few years ago, the team in charge of it was no longer interested in D-Star and migrated to DMR, then P25 and TETRA.

This repeater will be located at the same place than before (center of Paris) with only UHF band running (the cost for a VHF duplexer is too high to deploy again the RP2000V !).

The PC will run CentOS with ICOM G3 for registration (I bought it from ICOM) and G4KLX IRCddbGateway for reflectors connectivity.

I use PiStar on my hotspots, it is very interesting for "auto-update" (reflectors IP addresses), but when you "explore" it, you can find some differences as it doesn't use the latest version of G4KLX suite (especially for APRS-IS connectivity).

In fact, PiStar is a kind of "black box" which is very easy to use by the newbie, but a bit frustrating for an expert (which I ain't !!!).

I heard that some sysops wrote a package that was able to update the files containing the reflector IP addresses for IRCddbGateway (the same way it is done in PiStar), I will try to get that.

Best 73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.


Re: Is it possible to install ICOM G3 software AFTER IRCddbGateway software ?

 

Good Afternoon Jim.

Thank you for your feedback.

I will use your experience to do the things right !

I am already running a D-Star repeater (till many years now !) based on non-ICOM hardware, 2 TAIT Radios, a GMSK modem and a RPi. Software is G4KLX software suite under PiOS (no Pi-Star !).

All this is running fine, the only drawback is to have to update manually on a regular basis the IP addresses of the reflectors.

On the other hand, I bought an ICOM configuration (RP2C, RP2000V, RP4000V) that has been dismantled in Paris a few years ago, the team in charge of it was no longer interested in D-Star and migrated to DMR, then P25 and TETRA.

This repeater will be located at the same place than before (center of Paris) with only UHF band running (the cost for a VHF duplexer is too high to deploy again the RP2000V !).

The PC will run CentOS with ICOM G3 for registration (I bought it from ICOM) and G4KLX IRCddbGateway for reflectors connectivity.

I use PiStar on my hotspots, it is very interesting for "auto-update" (reflectors IP addresses), but when you "explore" it, you can find some differences as it doesn't use the latest version of G4KLX suite (especially for APRS-IS connectivity).

In fact, PiStar is a kind of "black box" which is very easy to use by the newbie, but a bit frustrating for an expert (which I ain't !!!).

I heard that some sysops wrote a package that was able to update the files containing the reflector IP addresses for IRCddbGateway (the same way it is done in PiStar), I will try to get that.

Best 73 from Fabrice, F5HCC.