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Flaxseed oil and PCa


mike martin
 

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Joel :
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None that I am aware of...
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Mike Martin


Cliff Beckwith
 

This came from Dr. Charles Myers at the University of Virginia. He
basically put some flax oil and a strain of PCa in a petri dish and the PCa
cells flourished.

There were no experimentation on men or animals or studies on men who have
used this.

However, he is a great standard treatment doctor and his conclusions have
been widely accepted without any question by a lot of doctors world wide.

Many who follow his conclusions believe that a tablespoon or two of ground
seeds help prevent PCa or breast cancer but that more of the oil works th e
other way.

Of course, the use of the protein with it is not considered and Dr. Budwig's
work found that essential. She said herself that if the protein is not used
the oil could have the "opposite effect".

I have had in my computer a couple of analysis of his conclusions which
refute them quite nicely but have accidentally erased them. I am going to
see if I can go into the archives of the original list and see if I can find
them.

I have seen enough myself to feel very certain that is not the case. One
thing that I think of is that the Omega 3 does not work against cancer cells
as a drug but helps build healthy cells with good oxygen transport.

I have not seen one case in which the increase of a PSA could be attributed
to the use of Flax Oil.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Agee <jagee@...>
To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:24 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Flaxseed oil and PCa


Can someone fill me in on the theory that Flaxseed oil combined with
cottage cheese is harmful to men with prostate cancer? Are there any
studies supporting this contention?

Joel




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Joel Agee
 

Thank you, Cliff.

When I began searching for non-invasive methods of treating my recently diagnosed PCa, I came across a page by Dr. Myers arguing that flaxseed oil did not combat PCa and was possibly harmful.?? He cited a study that had been done in Uruguay, where there is a high incidence of PCa and where people consume large amounts of flaxseed oil.? However, there was no mention of Dr. Budwig's insistence that the FO has to be thoroughly mixed with a sulphur-rich protein like quark or cottage cheese.? I started on the Budwig protocol in early August (interrupted briefly by the 8-day cleansing fast recommended by Lary Clapp).? Since my PCa is microscopically small and at a stage that is considered "insignificant" by some oncologists, I didn't feel I needed to take more than 2 tbs a day.? Recently I had my first PSA reading since July 1, and it is unchanged at 5.06.

The reason I asked my question here is that every once in a while I read posts by people who are convinced that the Budwig protocol is dangerous for men with PCa, and I wonder where they get that information.? If anyone here knows of an actual refutation of Dr. Budwig's claims, I would want to hear about it.

And Cliff, if you do find those refutations of Meyers' claims, I would be very interested in those as well.

Thanks for all your help,
Joel

Cliff Beckwith wrote:

This came from Dr. Charles Myers at the University of Virginia.? He
basically put some flax oil and a strain of PCa in a petri dish and the PCa
cells flourished.
(snip)


 

I think what some of us may be ignoring is the fact that there truly
isn't a magic bullet - other than one's own body. Each of us is
different. Even our PCa's are different. As Cliff has mentioned,
there are over 30 various strains. Some strains and some bodies will
have a remission; in others, it is very possible that the FSO will
spread cancer. Again, each of us and our bodies and our cancers are
different, and there is no magic bullet, no one cure fits all.

So, instead of going on and on with this prattle back and forth on
both lists of does FSO work or not, let's just face the reality and
get in touch with our bodies. Let's not put any scientist or
researcher - not even Dr. Budwig - ahead of our own bodies. Let's
listen to them. If they tell us FSO will work, then use it. If they
are telling us to forget FSO, then find another alternative. There
are hundreds. A particular alternative could have cured thousands,
but if your body and your cancer will not respond to it, why use it?

I think these lists are fine for facts and data. But I'm going to
listen to my body first and ignore opinions. We all need to meditate
and get in touch with the healer within...not the healer on the list.

lotecq
--- In FlaxSeedOil2@y..., Joel Agee <jagee@w...> wrote:
Thank you, Cliff.

When I began searching for non-invasive methods of treating my
recently
diagnosed PCa, I came across a page by Dr. Myers arguing that
flaxseed
oil did not combat PCa and was possibly harmful. He cited a study
that
had been done in Uruguay, where there is a high incidence of PCa and
where people consume large amounts of flaxseed oil. However, there
was
no mention of Dr. Budwig's insistence that the FO has to be
thoroughly
mixed with a sulphur-rich protein like quark or cottage cheese. I
started on the Budwig protocol in early August (interrupted briefly
by
the 8-day cleansing fast recommended by Lary Clapp). Since my PCa
is
microscopically small and at a stage that is
considered "insignificant"
by some oncologists, I didn't feel I needed to take more than 2 tbs
a
day. Recently I had my first PSA reading since July 1, and it is
unchanged at 5.06.

The reason I asked my question here is that every once in a while I
read
posts by people who are convinced that the Budwig protocol is
dangerous
for men with PCa, and I wonder where they get that information. If
anyone here knows of an actual refutation of Dr. Budwig's claims, I
would want to hear about it.

And Cliff, if you do find those refutations of Meyers' claims, I
would
be very interested in those as well.

Thanks for all your help,
Joel

Cliff Beckwith wrote:

This came from Dr. Charles Myers at the University of Virginia.
He
basically put some flax oil and a strain of PCa in a petri dish
and
the PCa
cells flourished.
(snip)