Shalom, There have been some interesting discussions, here, about??as an alternative treatment for cancer.
Here, on the Budwig Forum, I suggest that it is important to mention the possible connection between the Budwig Protocol and Treatment by??.???is a drug given to patients suffering from parasites.? This drug interferes with glucose transport into the cells.? Without glucose, the parasites die.? As we know, without glucose, cancer cells cannot survive.? Thus, taking??causes both parasites and cancer cells to die from lack of nutrition.??
Cancer cells have membranes that are rich in omega-6 oils, causing easy transport of glucose, and not allowing oxygen transport into the cell.? The result of following the Budwig Protocol is that cancer cells cannot reproduce because there is not enough omega-6 oil to build the cancer cell membrane.? Normal, healthy cells, that?burn oxygen, have membranes that are rich in omega-3.? That is the reason that the BP is based on flaxseed oil, in which the ratio of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils is 1::4 (unlike corn oil, for example, in which the ration of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils?is about 46::1).? Thus, a protocol based on?Fenbendazole might successfully reduce the cancer cell population, but would not offer the building blocks for continued health. Moreover, the die-off from rapidly?degraded cancer cells can be difficult for the body to process:? sometimes faster is not always better.
Here, we know that the BP will lead to health.??
I can imagine that?Fenbendazole might offer a quick fix.? I do not imagine that it will bring one to good health.? It is possible that a combination of these two protocols, a?Fenbendazole Protocol and prolonged use of the Budwig Protocol, might be an answer.
There is a Facebook group called "".? I find the group posts a bit difficult, because, I believe, the moderators are simply not knowledgeable?enough to guide the discussions.? Nevertheless, there is interesting information.? It is important to note that some of the members of that group have mentioned research papers about the possible dangers of high doses of?Fenbendazole, and of following instructions found on social media, rather than on a more serious forum, like this one.??
There is a lot about?Fenbendazole that is NOT yet known. Be careful.
with good wishes, Rahel Jerusalem
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Re: Balance Of Nature......Fruits and Veggies?
Agreed. Anything in processed form would likely contain some form of sugar to appeal to the masses. Best to eat real fruits
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 6:34 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
I will stick to fresh produce. I don't see how you can retain all of nature's goodness in a powder.
Rod in MN/USA On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 04:41:04 PM CDT, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this in regards to BP?A company out of? Las Vegas, Nevada, United States. Not sure what? kind of a supplementation this would be considered, definitely not a mineral, herb, spice, oil? or vitamin, .. their method of production more or less cold-presses/freeze dries fruits and vegetables into a powder form.
And,? I see it is fairly expensive.......approx. $70/month (USD).
Ron Muscella
https://www.balanceofnature.com/products/fruits-veggies
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Re: Balance Of Nature......Fruits and Veggies?
I will stick to fresh produce. I don't see how you can retain all of nature's goodness in a powder.
Rod in MN/USA On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 04:41:04 PM CDT, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on this in regards to BP?A company out of? Las Vegas, Nevada, United States. Not sure what? kind of a supplementation this would be considered, definitely not a mineral, herb, spice, oil? or vitamin, .. their method of production more or less cold-presses/freeze dries fruits and vegetables into a powder form.
And,? I see it is fairly expensive.......approx. $70/month (USD).
Ron Muscella
https://www.balanceofnature.com/products/fruits-veggies
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Shalom Rod! I enjoy your comments. "I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great." This?is wonderful, encouraging?news! You add: "Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc." Should we understand that other than a few slices of pizza and some tacos, you continue to avoid all of the "forbidden foods" on the Budwig list??? no meat, no fish, no chicken, no eggs, none of the "wrong oils", no sugar......
I suppose that if the pizza and the tacos are restaurant prepared, there is no avoiding some sugar (it is in everything) and some of the wrong oils.? But they would be minimal.
Though I, personally, have never had cancer, I do avoid all those things, and I do, occasionally, indulge in a slice of pizza (and more likely falafel?than tacos in the Middle East!).
What is your personal protocol, now that you are looking forward to many more years of cancer free health?
thanks, Rahel Jerusalem
I agree that Budwig is the reason I am alive. But, I have always been on the lookout for something that can clean up the little bit that remains due to my improper diet. It took about 9 months for all of my symptoms to disappear, and although I was physically healthy I was miserable. I followed the regimen to the letter for that time. I just can't live with the diet for the rest of my life so I compromise. Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc. I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great.
Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 09:19:15 AM CDT, Tom via <thomas.carroll20= [email protected]> wrote:
Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts. ? Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus= [email protected]> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Balance Of Nature......Fruits and Veggies?
Anyone have any thoughts on this in regards to BP?
A company out of? Las Vegas, Nevada, United States.
Not sure what? kind of a supplementation this would be considered,
definitely not a mineral, herb, spice, oil? or vitamin,
.. their method of production more or less cold-presses/freeze dries fruits and vegetables into a powder form.
And,? I see it is fairly expensive.......approx. $70/month (USD).
Ron Muscella
https://www.balanceofnature.com/products/fruits-veggies
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Rod: It is still encouraging to know that you are still kicking after 6.5 years from the dreadful stage 4 diagnosis. I would agree that it's virtually impossible to not cheat on any diet. I would say if my mother can be there in that time, I would be kissing the ground!!
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 03:20:21 PM CDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
I agree that Budwig is the reason I am alive. But, I have always been on the lookout for something that can clean up the little bit that remains due to my improper diet. It took about 9 months for all of my symptoms to disappear, and although I was physically healthy I was miserable. I followed the regimen to the letter for that time. I just can't live with the diet for the rest of my life so I compromise. Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc. I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great.
Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 09:19:15 AM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts.
On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
? Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
I agree that Budwig is the reason I am alive. But, I have always been on the lookout for something that can clean up the little bit that remains due to my improper diet. It took about 9 months for all of my symptoms to disappear, and although I was physically healthy I was miserable. I followed the regimen to the letter for that time. I just can't live with the diet for the rest of my life so I compromise. Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc. I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great.
Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 09:19:15 AM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts.
On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
? Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
There are people who say to take iron, and there are those who say it is not necessary. I trust Dr's Singh and Lau that did the early research with arte and they say that the body makes enough iron on its own, and to only supplement iron if deficient.
Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 12:55:04 PM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
Sweet wormwood is supposed to work better by taking iron 20 minutes before the sweet wormwood which I can¡¯t get my head around because cancer loves iron & another product shrinks tumours by steeling the iron from the cancer cells, it can all be very confusing.
On 13 Apr 2022, at 15:19, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
? Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts. On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
? Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
You don't have to take iron with it. There are irons circulating in our blood and it will "bound" with the herb, It has a short 3-4 hour life cycle as well, I just read that it is best to be taken at bedtime.
There are folks taking 3 days on and 4 days off as "maintenance dose"
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 12:55:01 PM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
Sweet wormwood is supposed to work better by taking iron 20 minutes before the sweet wormwood which I can¡¯t get my head around because cancer loves iron & another product shrinks tumours by steeling the iron from the cancer cells, it can all be very confusing.
On 13 Apr 2022, at 15:19, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
? Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts. On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
?
Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Sweet wormwood is supposed to work better by taking iron 20 minutes before the sweet wormwood which I can¡¯t get my head around because cancer loves iron & another product shrinks tumours by steeling the iron from the cancer cells, it can all be very confusing.
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On 13 Apr 2022, at 15:19, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
? Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts. On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
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Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts.
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On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
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Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
You can get artemisia Annua from lots of different suppliers in Amazon.de (German marketplace) not sure if they send it overseas?
I have bought annua from here
and here
Absinthium from here
When I first started I got from here
But the last order I got the herb was different so I sent it back. Waiting for them to got more of what I got before and it is supposed to be in stock shortly.
Keep in mind that this is a bit experimental, although I have seen positive results. There are a couple of member of this group doing this as well as a couple of family friends. The herb is only about 1% artemisinin but it being so much more absorbable helps to make up for that. I am using a lot per session, about 6 tbls. If you start on this I would suggest to start a 1 tbl or even 1/2 as a friend who has pancan did 1/2 tbl and she experienced what I believe was Herxheimer Reaction. This is actually a good thing as it means cancer cells are dying faster than the body can rid them. But it can make you ill. The most I have gotten was a wwozy feeling and headache which pass fairly quickly. Not all annua are equally strong, I had to increase my dosage by 50% with this latest order to get the same effect. Feel free to message me personally for more details.
All the best, Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 02:27:42 PM CDT, Julie Ma via <julientexas= [email protected]> wrote:
Will you share the sourcing of this herb? Thx On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 2:05 PM, Rod Holmgren via Not artemisinin, artemisian annua, the actual herb. Artemisinin is poorly absorbed. The herb is over 50 times more bioavailable than the artemisinin derivative plus you get the other benefits of the actual plant and not just the artemisinin. If you can take it orally that is great but my stomach does not like it so I make a tea and take it with my coffee enemas. I can also take a lot more than you could possible ingest orally. I have also been mixing in artemisia absinthium to tap into what it may have to offer. I buy it ground into a powder and have found that strength seems to vary from different sources.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 12:08:12 PM CDT, Julie Ma via <julientexas= [email protected]> wrote:
How much and what brand of Artemisinin are you taking? I started my mom on Artemisinin as well at 200 mg per day. On month and taking a week off currently On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Rod Holmgren via Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 08:04:14 PM CDT, Julie Ma via <julientexas= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Rod, At least it didn't cause you more harm...
It may work for JT or NSC lung cancer only. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 7:59 PM, Rod Holmgren via I did that for 6 months a couple of summers ago. It did nothing for me. I was a member of their facebook group and it seemed that most folks who were seeing results were also doing conventional treatments. I saw a lot of people disappear from that group without announcement and a lot of loved ones selling or giving away leftover dewormer after their loved one died. I left that group as they didn't want to discuss any other natural treatments.
Rod in MN/USA
Hello all, my doctor forwarded this information to me, I hope this pdf can be opened.? Regarding fenbendazole as a cancer treatment.?
----- Forwarded Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022, 12:18:02 PM MDT Subject: cancer alternative
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Re: Anti-parasitic protocol
I think that some product can order from amazon.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:02:42 PM GMT+2, donegoing2002@... via groups.io <donegoing2002@...> wrote:
looked at the Calivita website. They seem to only service Europe.? Their Rodiolin is Rhodiola with zinc, Paraprotex is a herbal antiparasitic , oxymax is a concentrated oxygen??
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
I have bought annua from here
https://www.theherbsource.com/search.asp?keyword=artemisia+annua
and here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/125039778715
Absinthium from here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324146823472?var=513258851942
When I first started I got from here
https://holisherb.com/wormwood-powder/
But the last order I got the herb was different so I sent it back. Waiting for them to got more of what I got before and it is supposed to be in stock shortly.
Keep in mind that this is a bit experimental, although I have seen positive results. There are a couple of member of this group doing this as well as a couple of family friends. The herb is only about 1% artemisinin but it being so much more absorbable helps to make up for that. I am using a lot per session, about 6 tbls. If you start on this I would suggest to start a 1 tbl or even 1/2 as a friend who has pancan did 1/2 tbl and she experienced what I believe was Herxheimer Reaction. This is actually a good thing as it means cancer cells are dying faster than the body can rid them. But it can make you ill. The most I have gotten was a wwozy feeling and headache which pass fairly quickly. Not all annua are equally strong, I had to increase my dosage by 50% with this latest order to get the same effect. Feel free to message me personally for more details.
All the best, Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 02:27:42 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Will you share the sourcing of this herb? Thx
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 2:05 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: Not artemisinin, artemisian annua, the actual herb. Artemisinin is poorly absorbed. The herb is over 50 times more bioavailable than the artemisinin derivative plus you get the other benefits of the actual plant and not just the artemisinin. If you can take it orally that is great but my stomach does not like it so I make a tea and take it with my coffee enemas. I can also take a lot more than you could possible ingest orally. I have also been mixing in artemisia absinthium to tap into what it may have to offer. I buy it ground into a powder and have found that strength seems to vary from different sources.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 12:08:12 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
How much and what brand of Artemisinin are you taking? I started my mom on Artemisinin as well at 200 mg per day. On month and taking a week off currently On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 08:04:14 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Hi Rod, At least it didn't cause you more harm...
It may work for JT or NSC lung cancer only. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 7:59 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: I did that for 6 months a couple of summers ago. It did nothing for me. I was a member of their facebook group and it seemed that most folks who were seeing results were also doing conventional treatments. I saw a lot of people disappear from that group without announcement and a lot of loved ones selling or giving away leftover dewormer after their loved one died. I left that group as they didn't want to discuss any other natural treatments.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 03:26:20 PM CDT, donegoing2002@... via groups.io <donegoing2002@...> wrote:
Hello all, my doctor forwarded this information to me, I hope this pdf can be opened.? Regarding fenbendazole as a cancer treatment.?
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: info <info@...> To: donegoing2002@... <donegoing2002@...> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022, 12:18:02 PM MDT Subject: cancer alternative
https://fenbendazole.s3.amazonaws.com/A-Cure-for-Cancer-Hidden-in-Plain-Sight-July-2019-Dr-David-Williams.pdf
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looked at the Calivita website. They seem to only service Europe.? Their Rodiolin is Rhodiola with zinc, Paraprotex is a herbal antiparasitic , oxymax is a concentrated oxygen??
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
'artemisia annua'...also known as Sweet Wormwood. Ron Muscella
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2022 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Fw: cancer alternative
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 08:04:14 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Hi Rod,
At least it didn't cause you more harm...
It may work for JT or NSC lung cancer only.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 7:59 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io
<s4sindus@...> wrote:
I did that for 6 months a couple of summers ago. It did nothing for me. I was a member of their facebook group and it seemed that most folks who were seeing results were also doing conventional treatments. I saw a lot of people disappear from that group without announcement and a lot of loved ones selling or giving away leftover dewormer after their loved one died. I left that group as they didn't want to discuss any other natural treatments.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 03:26:20 PM CDT, donegoing2002@... via groups.io <donegoing2002@...> wrote:
Hello all, my doctor forwarded this information to me, I hope this pdf can be opened.? Regarding fenbendazole as a cancer treatment.?
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To: donegoing2002@... <donegoing2002@...>
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022, 12:18:02 PM MDT
Subject: cancer alternative
https://fenbendazole.s3.amazonaws.com/A-Cure-for-Cancer-Hidden-in-Plain-Sight-July-2019-Dr-David-Williams.pdf
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Will you share the sourcing of this herb? Thx
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 2:05 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: Not artemisinin, artemisian annua, the actual herb. Artemisinin is poorly absorbed. The herb is over 50 times more bioavailable than the artemisinin derivative plus you get the other benefits of the actual plant and not just the artemisinin. If you can take it orally that is great but my stomach does not like it so I make a tea and take it with my coffee enemas. I can also take a lot more than you could possible ingest orally. I have also been mixing in artemisia absinthium to tap into what it may have to offer. I buy it ground into a powder and have found that strength seems to vary from different sources.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 12:08:12 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
How much and what brand of Artemisinin are you taking? I started my mom on Artemisinin as well at 200 mg per day. On month and taking a week off currently On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 08:04:14 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Hi Rod, At least it didn't cause you more harm...
It may work for JT or NSC lung cancer only. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 7:59 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: I did that for 6 months a couple of summers ago. It did nothing for me. I was a member of their facebook group and it seemed that most folks who were seeing results were also doing conventional treatments. I saw a lot of people disappear from that group without announcement and a lot of loved ones selling or giving away leftover dewormer after their loved one died. I left that group as they didn't want to discuss any other natural treatments.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 03:26:20 PM CDT, donegoing2002@... via groups.io <donegoing2002@...> wrote:
Hello all, my doctor forwarded this information to me, I hope this pdf can be opened.? Regarding fenbendazole as a cancer treatment.?
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: info <info@...> To: donegoing2002@... <donegoing2002@...> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022, 12:18:02 PM MDT Subject: cancer alternative
https://fenbendazole.s3.amazonaws.com/A-Cure-for-Cancer-Hidden-in-Plain-Sight-July-2019-Dr-David-Williams.pdf
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Not artemisinin, artemisian annua, the actual herb. Artemisinin is poorly absorbed. The herb is over 50 times more bioavailable than the artemisinin derivative plus you get the other benefits of the actual plant and not just the artemisinin. If you can take it orally that is great but my stomach does not like it so I make a tea and take it with my coffee enemas. I can also take a lot more than you could possible ingest orally. I have also been mixing in artemisia absinthium to tap into what it may have to offer. I buy it ground into a powder and have found that strength seems to vary from different sources.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 12:08:12 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
How much and what brand of Artemisinin are you taking? I started my mom on Artemisinin as well at 200 mg per day. On month and taking a week off currently
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 12:04 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 08:04:14 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Hi Rod, At least it didn't cause you more harm...
It may work for JT or NSC lung cancer only. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 7:59 PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote: I did that for 6 months a couple of summers ago. It did nothing for me. I was a member of their facebook group and it seemed that most folks who were seeing results were also doing conventional treatments. I saw a lot of people disappear from that group without announcement and a lot of loved ones selling or giving away leftover dewormer after their loved one died. I left that group as they didn't want to discuss any other natural treatments.
Rod in MN/USA
On Monday, April 11, 2022, 03:26:20 PM CDT, donegoing2002@... via groups.io <donegoing2002@...> wrote:
Hello all, my doctor forwarded this information to me, I hope this pdf can be opened.? Regarding fenbendazole as a cancer treatment.?
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: info <info@...> To: donegoing2002@... <donegoing2002@...> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022, 12:18:02 PM MDT Subject: cancer alternative
https://fenbendazole.s3.amazonaws.com/A-Cure-for-Cancer-Hidden-in-Plain-Sight-July-2019-Dr-David-Williams.pdf
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Re: cancer alternative Anti parazit program
Hi She used these
morning on empty stomach
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oxy max 30 drops in 500 ml water? (3 times per day, 90 drops total)
1 tablet rodiolin ( 2 times per day not for dinner, 2
tablets total)
after 30 min 3 tablets paraprotex ( 3 times per day- 9
tablets total)
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you can eat after 30 min
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after breakfast 1 tablet super mega 50 and 2 tablet vitamin
C1000 plus.
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?
same as morning you repeat at lunch
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in dinner time is same only without rodiolin and without
supermega 50. these products are from Calivita.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 3:28:11 PM GMT+2, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Hi Peck Bee: Please share detail of the anti parasite protocol. Thanks,
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 02:46:15 AM CDT, Magdalena Nakova via groups.io <magi_nakova@...> wrote:
Hi all My friend used anti parasite program and she has very good result. If someone want to try it I will give her program.
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Tom