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Re: Lignans..Question
Joan Troutt
Cliff, I have used Colloidal Silver for a bout a year, when i start getting
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a cold, etc. Also on all the children, grandchildren. I t seems immediately ( dose of 3 to 4 times a day)to stop the sore throat, runny nose, fever, etc. the "health shoppe" guy said, it aids in the fight of viral and bacterial viruses. I also add Colostrum pills, about 6 a day, when this starts. I started the other day, and I have felt great, except for the laryngitis , talking. But I don't have any of the normal symptoms of the cold. This is a Natural Antibiotic. Great fo rear infections. An article is in the Health Magazine. You might pass this on if you like. Don't know about the cancer use. Joan ----- Original Message -----
From: Cliff Beckwith <spinner@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question Hi,with the Colloidal Silver fighting other things that would tend to make thewhole battle more difficult.very externalexciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and Wartmaladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars somewith it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing moreFlu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very goodfeedback on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It isand |
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Re: Lignans..Question
Cliff Beckwith
Hi,
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I have read a lot about Colloidal Silver and would try it but never got around to it. I would suspect that the FO/CC would be the main weapon against cancer with the Colloidal Silver fighting other things that would tend to make the whole battle more difficult. I don't know. I would like to try Colloidal Silver. Cliff -----Original Message-----
From: william falls <wfalls@...> To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Date: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some veryfeed back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS isand actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own |
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Re: Lignans..Question
Cliff Beckwith
I don't believe the lignans would hurt anything in ones eyes. It could be a
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little irritating. Cliff -----Original Message-----
From: william falls <wfalls@...> To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Date: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question |
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Miz Judy & Mel
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýColloidal Silver?? ( ooops ! ) sorry I sent out
Lorie's letter and goofed it not going without my answer.)? We also use Colloidal Silver, and find it very good for
preventing a cold from coming on. Also have used it for sores, cuts, and put
some on my little-toe when I broke it. And the other day before I had to have
the ingrown-toenails cut out, I used?applied it along with flaxseed oil to
keep the pains down. It seemed to work. And the doctor was amazed at the results
that when he begin to?pull out the core, I hardly twinged. ( question) I wonder what it would do
in the eyes?
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Lorie's letter is following:?
Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some
very exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and external maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars Wart with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing some Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very good feed back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon of yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want more info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It is very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie? wfalls@... Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on it and actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at silver-list@... |
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Re: Lignans..Question
william falls
Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some very
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exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and external maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars Wart with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing some Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very good feed back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon of yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want more info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It is very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@... Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on it and actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at silver-list@... ----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty. |
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Re: Lignans..Question
william falls
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty. |
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Re: lowfat quark?
Joel Agee
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ckreibich@... wrote: In a message dated 10/15/01 9:38:53 PM Central Daylight Time, jagee@... writes:Ok, thanks -- the test will be in the tasting. Joel |
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Re: lowfat quark?
In a message dated 10/15/01 9:38:53 PM Central Daylight Time, jagee@... writes:
: is the final product cottage cheese or quark? ?They'renot the same thing, to my mind and palate. I don't know the answer to that. The final product is a "lump". It breaks up easily with a fork and looks like dry cottage cheese. I then mix back in a little organic cottage cheese to give it a little moisture. Carolyn |
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From "Dr. Stephen Byrnes' Free E-Zine"
Lorenzo
From "Dr. Stephen Byrnes' Free E-Zine"
""2. Drug Company Corruption Revealed from Ralph Moss's CancerDecisions.com Newsletter #007 (October 8, 2001) -------------------------------------- This week, a major pharmaceutical company, TAP Pharmaceutical, of Lake Forest, Ill., agreed to pay $875 million to settle charges that it inflated the price of the prostate cancer drug Lupron and also bribed doctors to prescribe it. A federal indictment charged one doctor and six TAP managers with conspiracy to give doctors free drugs, trips to resorts, and free consulting services in order to obtain their referrals of prescriptions for Lupron to Medicare program beneficiaries. TAP is a 50-50 venture between Abbott Laboratories (news/quote), of Abbott Park, Ill., and Takeda Chemical Industries Ltd. in Japan.(See: NY Times website October 3, 2001). One can only wonder how widespread such practices are. In the past, the bribing of doctors with trips and kickbacks was openly practiced. Today, it is illegal but obviously still goes on. We need doctors to prescribe drugs based on the likelihood that it will benefit us. Too often, they allow themselves to be manipulated by manufacturers. This creates a climate of uncritical enthusiasm for pharmaceuticals. RELATED STORIES: Drug companies defrauded Medicare of millions Drug companies neglect research into diseases affecting the poor --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/01 |
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Re: Self-made flaxseed oil?
Joel Agee
My friend sent a query to Blarlean's and received two very informative
and generous replies, which she shared with me. Then I wrote to Barlean's to ask permission to forward those emails to this list,. I'll add their reply to me after the first two. Joel 1) Hello Elsa, Thank you for contacting us. I do have some questions regarding the flax oil that your friend has found in her local area. You may find it interesting that the room temperature issue does not concern me as much as a few other facts I would need to know. Is the flax organic? Is it cold pressed? Does it have a pressing date? Are there any other ingredients included in the bottle? These are the most important things to consider---since shipping to her area is quite expensive and we do not have any recommendation of any companies there I would say this, if the oil is of good quality and recently pressed (within the last month or so) even at room temperature the oil will be fine. We did an interesting test here with our oil--we opened a bottle and used 1 ounce (this allowed a little air into the bottle) replaced the top and left it on a desk top for 10 months. The oil was then sent to a third party lab for rancidity testing (peroxide lipids)---the scale ranges from 0 to 10, with 10 being the point at which peroxide lipids are formed and the oil begins to be rancid. On this scale this opened, unrefrigerated bottle was only at level 2. Still quite stable for use. I know this seems contrary to what you may have heard about flax being so fragile, but in truth flax is fragile compared to something like Crisco---but not fragile at all compared to something like milk. The oil that Dr. Johanna Budwig used in Germany in all her research was made outside, left unrefrigerated and carried in metal containers many times. She had astonishing results in her work. The key is in the quality of the seed--particularly that it not be exposed to pesticides/herbicides and that it be brown (the most omega 3 content). A recent pressing if possible will allow your friend some time to use it up---the other route would be to grind the seed itself, if available. She would need to grind 3 Tablespoons of seed and consume that to make the EFA equivalent of 1 Tablespoon of the oil. Mixing the oil/seed with cottage cheese is recommended by Dr. Budwig for her cancer patients. I hope this info helps and that your friend can find the name of the company and perhaps some info on the label or from the store owner. Please contact me for any further questions or discussion you might need--it would be interesting to know what flax is available there. I hope some of this info helps. Best of Health, Alene 2) Hi Elsa, Grinding will be fine--usually a coffee grinder worked well for the small seeds and you are correct-the heat there is not an issue. I would just grind a day or two at a time to keep it fresh. Even if she decided to use the oil as her main source of Omega 3 the seeds will be of great benefit, even consuming 1-2 tablespoons of them since the seed has 100% of it's lignans and they are thought, at least in info I have read, to be of help with cancer. Our oil has lignans included with the pressing, but I am not sure that the oil she finds will have the lignans left in. Thanks for emailing back--hope to hear more from you and I certainly wish the best for your dear friend. Alene 3) Hi Joel, I suppose that would be fine--but let me make sure you understand that cold pressing is an issue. That is why I asked that her friend look into how it was pressed---the ideal press would be expeller pressed between 98-110 degrees. Higher than this would be adding too much heat and could damage the integrity of the oil. Some companies do all the right packaging and storage, but press at extremely high temps (to obtain more oil from the seed). We feel it is better to lose some of the oil volume potential by pressing at low temps and come out with a very viable Omega 3 source. The room temp storage is not a red flag to me, but chemicals being used, high heat during pressing and exposure to light are red flags. Just so this is clear to you all. Thank you, Alene |
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Re: Self-made flaxseed oil?
Lorenzo
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Does Barleans say that their cold pressed oil is at room temperature all through the process? Compressing most things seems to cause heat; (law of physics). Without research; a small low pressure press would be easier to operate at a lower temperature than a commercial press; all other things being equal. Since heat seeks a sink; small has an advantage. Think about it. Lorenzo Best Regards, Lorenzo Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors. CaveManFood-subscribe@... Trapshooters Join this; trapshooter-subscribe@... ----- Original Message -----
From: <z00ky@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Self-made flaxseed oil? At 04:07 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, you wrote:pressesShe could buy the seeds in the market, put used at home would almost do the same thing. Cold-pressed is the only way --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/01 |
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Re: MSM?
Lorenzo
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It is well to consider other sources of sulfur; but common sense says it is better for a sick person to follow what has been shown to work. Best Regards, Lorenzo Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors. CaveManFood-subscribe@... Trapshooters Join this; trapshooter-subscribe@... ----- Original Message -----
From: <z00ky@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] MSM? At 05:49 PM 10/16/2001 -0600, you wrote:"seniorAs I read it; Dr. Budwig found that Cottage Cheese or Quark worked as moment". :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/01 |
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Ratio of Omega 6 to omega 3
Lorenzo
Many sites report the ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 EFA's in our diet is
50 to 1 or 25 to 1 because of how our food is grown and processed and chosen. Also many sites report that the prefferred ratio would be 4 to 1 or 2 to 1. If one believes the majority of research then one must conclude that the problem is to consume enough Omega 3 and avoid so much Omega 6. At the supermarket I observe many persons with a shopping cart that has no green vegetables, no canned fish i.e. nothing with much Omega 3 in it; conversely the contents include plenty of foods which have had any Omega 3 removed. Bread, Pasta and etc. Since most meat animals are raised in small enclosures and fed grains for repid weight gain the meat is very high in Omega 6 and low in Omega 3. Butter has some Omega 3; Margerine has trans fats. Few realize that the last thirty years of research show that trans fats are unwise; but the public is still told low fat is good while the best research shows that it is the type of fat not how much that affects health. I have had a PC for six years now and the explosion of research information on the internet just in the last year is amazing. From all that I have read; The wise way to eat is --buy fresh food, prepare it yourself. Avoid all processed food. For fast food get the original fast food- apples, grapes, nuts and raw vegetables. Use expensive eggs, get grass fed beef, supplement with flax seed and oil. Take vitamin supplements. Canola and Soy are very controversial, wait ten more years to eat them. If one has cancer; follow Dr. Budwigs directions carefully. Regards,, Lorenzo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/01 |
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Re: Self-made flaxseed oil?
At 04:07 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, you wrote:
She could buy the seeds in the market, put Being fairly well-versed on the subject of preparation of ANY herb I can tell you that that probably won't work. In order to extract the oil the blender would cause very high heat - that's a no-no. In fact, even presses used at home would almost do the same thing. Cold-pressed is the only way to preserve the various constituents of Flaxseed. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at |
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Re: MSM?
At 05:49 PM 10/16/2001 -0600, you wrote:
As I read it;? Dr. Budwig found that Cottage Cheese or Quark worked as well as other things and was economical. When I originally replied to this question (does MSM contain the right sulphur to do the trick) I totally forgot about the 3 proteins (found in Cottage Cheese or Quark) that appear to be also needed.? My apologies if I caused any confusion - as for me, I'll just chalk it up as having a "senior moment". :) |
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Re: LIGNANS
william falls
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThank you! that cleared it up, and for being so
sweet!!! Lorie
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How do we retrieve
Miz Judy & Mel
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCliff since some of us pulled out immediately from
the old flaxseed oil group..and without thinking, I for one,?would now like
to get back in there to pull? out some of my important data I used,on the
old list. ?And there is also some things there in archives I would like to
use again. IS THIS POSSIBLE TO GET BACK IN TO GET THESE OUT. I tried to sign in
and it says no longer there. Is this true?
Miz Judy and Mel
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Nashville,Ohio Genealogy Bereavement of a Lost Love One My Cancer Challenge Ordeal NaturalWellBeing-subscribe@... Owner: Miz Judy: mrjau@... FlaxSeedOil2-subscribe@... Owner: Cliff Beckwith: spinner@... |
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LIGNANS
Miz Judy & Mel
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI am ignorant, I think, What are these Lignans you speak of and is
it
something added to the Flaxseed Oil? thanks, Lorie? NO WAY LORIE are you ignorant.. Like the rest of us we are learning and
we all had to begin at the very core of learning about FLAXSEED as well as other
ways to stay healthy. SO at anytime you need an answer..please ask. I know I've
asked many myself, and am in experimenting now with the oils other uses, than
that of cancer?help.
And look at it this way Lorie if you would have not asked this question,
someone else would have sooner or later..Thanks for making it sooner. Now I'm
also sure CLiff will answer you differently than I am, but that is okay too..we
will be on the same track to help you and others to understand
Lignans..
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I live in my own little world,
but it's ok, they know me here. I can say anything I? like.. 'cause nobody listens to me anyway. ? ?
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Re: Lignans..Question
Cliff Beckwith
Hi Lorie,
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The Lignans are part of the protein in the flaxseeds that seem to have some value in fighting cancer in their own right. It is the dark material in the "Lignan Rich" oil. The oil can be purchased with that removed. It is then a "golden" oil. Most of the oil now sold is Lignan Rich and that is what I get. However, if I put it in my eyes I want the golden oil off the top of the bottle before it is mixed. The Lignans do not dissolve in the oil. They are in suspension when mixed and the Lignans will settle out. Cliff -----Original Message-----
From: william falls <wfalls@...> To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question I am ignorant, I think, What are these Lignans you speak of and is itbefore mixing with the Lignans.CLiff what would the Lingnans do? Harm the eye or |
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Re: Lignans..Question
william falls
I am ignorant, I think, What are these Lignans you speak of and is it
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something added to the Flaxseed Oil? thanks, Lorie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty. |