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Update on eyes

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi,

I have been asked to summarize what we have been playing with concerning
eyes and flax oil.

There is nothing here that is any guarantee and nothing that we have read
or have followed.

Quite a while ago, my cousin Rich told me he had been having trouble seeing
enough to drive at night. Having great faith in the ability of flaxseed oil
to help about any condition involving poor health, Rich began to put it in
his eyes.

I am hazy about the length of time it took, but before long his night vision
had improved greatly. I tried it a little and it seemed to help me.

Just as an observation, I put that info on the flaxseed oil group.

Before long some other folks emailed the group and told of this approach
helping them.

One lady said that it had helped her, but it had helped her neighbor more.
The neighbor had macular degeneration and lost her driver's license, and now
she had it back.

Another lady said that she had faced cataract surgery and put a drop of oil
in each eye at night and the cataracts cleared up.

Monday, October 1st, I had a yearly eye exam. Six or seven years ago I had
a "bleeder" in the retina of my right eye. That is something about which
there is very little that can be done. It did not clear by itself after a
few years and the doctor recommended laser surgery to drain the blood and
prevent blindness. By that time the "bleeder" had rerouted but the dried
blood was still there.

The laser surgery had caused me to be unable to see much in my right eye
and I could not read with both eyes open. This is a problem.

The sight had been growing steadily worse and more "cloudy". I attributed
this to the laser.

During the examination the doctor discovered that there was a dense
cataract. He said my sight in that eye, though not perfect anyway, could
perhaps be helped by cataract surgery. I wasn't interested because I don't
use it much anyway.

Then I remembered the lady who had cleared cataracts with flaxseed oil. I
talked with the doctor about it. He asked me what literature I had read and
I told him that there was no literature but we might be making it. He is
quite interested and if this works he said he will write it up in a journal
or two, and it it was rejected he would at least write a letter to the
editor.

During the exam I could only make out the big E with my right eye. Any of
the rest was virtual darkness. Twelve days after that and regular use of
drops of flax oil in my eye my wife went for new glasses. They weren't
right and we will go again this week. However, the technician put the eye
chart on and I can already make out some letters in the next size smaller.
I can now use my right eye alone and read a lot of the TV commercials. The
"cloud" is still there but seems much less dense.

During the exam, Jenny, the tecnician who did the examination with the chart
told me that she had an aunt in Texas who cleared cataracts with Flaxseed
oil.

The technician is also very interested. She told me that her aunt in Texas
had cleared cataracts with flaxseed oil. She did not tell me how she had
used it.

If this cataract is cleared I may again be able to read with both eyes open.
I am hardly daring to believe this can be possible, but somewhat excited
nevertheless.

What I have written is not a recommendation. I do not know what will
happen. It is simply an account of what has happened.

The Opthamologist has assured me that there can be no danger in doing what I
am doing. I would say that if any tries this one should use the golden oil
from the top of a bottle before it is mixed up in the case of Lignan Rich
oil.

Regards

Cliff

Update:

Today, October 22, we returned to the Caenter for Sight in Jefferson City to
pick up my wife's glasses.

The Technician there put up the chart and I could see the second size
letters significantly more clearly than I could 8 days ago. The cataract
seems to be clearing. Oct 1 the sight in that eye was 20 -- 400. Today, 21
days later, it is 20 --200.

If the trend continues another month should see things better than that,
though because of the laser damage to the retina it will never be perfect.


From Vince

Cliff Beckwith
 

United States Patent 4,981,844
Alexander , et al. January 1, 1991

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Method to improve immune response and resistance to infection following
surgery by diet composition


Abstract
The immune response of a patient can be improved pre-operatively by altering
the diet of a patient. When 20 to about 80% of the calories in a diet are
from linoleic acid which is an omega 6 fatty acid, the immune response
system and resistance to infection of the patient is substantially improved.
Likewise providing 100 to about 1,000 IU per day of vitamin E in the diet
also improves the immune response of the patient pre-operatively. This in
turn improves the survival rate of the patient.


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Inventors: Alexander; J. Wesley (Cincinnati, OH); Peck; Michael D.
(Cincinnati, OH)
Assignee: University of Cincinnati (Cincinnati, OH)
Appl. No.: 253140
Filed: October 4, 1988

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Claims

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We claim:

1. A method of improving the immune response in patients comprising:

said patient ingesting a diet for at least 10 days prior to an operative
procedure, said diet having 20-60 kilocalories per kilogram body weight
wherein 20% to 80% of the calories in said diet are derived from linoleic
acid.

2. The method claimed in claim 1 wherein said diet includes 100 to 1,000 IU
per day vitamin E.

3. The method claimed in claim 1 wherein said diet contains from about 20 to
about 60% safflower oil.
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Description

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BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

Surgical procedures can act to seriously weaken the body of the patient.
Major surgeries are in fact an extreme assault upon the body which in turn
affects the immune response system of the patient. This in turn increases
the risk of post-operative infection. Such post-operative infection has a
significant effect upon the survival rate after major surgery.

Further many patients prior to surgery are already in a particularly
debilitated condition. Many patients who have digestive track problems which
require surgery have not been able to ingest sufficient calories to maintain
body weight and keep themselves in a healthy condition. Accordingly, many
patients require a pre-operative stay to obtain either an enteral or
parenteral diet to increase body weight and improve their health.

It has been shown that diet can affect the immune response system after
major assaults to the body. For example, The Importance of Lipid Type in the
Diet After Burn, Anals. of Surgery, Vol. 204, No. July, 1, 1986 reports that
the lipids contained in a diet have an effect on the immune response system
in burn patients. Specifically, it indicated that a diet high in omega 6
fatty acids such as linoleic acid have a significant immunosupressive
effect. On the other hand, diets high in omega 3 fatty acids improve the
immune response. In "The Effect of Dietary Unsaturated Fatty Acids and
Indomethacin on Metabolism and Survival after Burn" indicates that excessive
dietary polyunsaturated linoleic acid may influence immunocompetence after
burn. Accordingly, all indications are that omego 6 fatty acids have a
immunosuppressive effect.

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

The present invention is premised on the realization that prior to an
operative procedure the immune response system of a patient can be improved
by providing the patient with a diet very high in linoleic acid. More
particularly the present invention is premised on the realization that a
diet having from about 20 to about 60% of its total calories derived from
linoleic acid substantially improves the immune response system of patients
and acts as a preoperative diet to enhance the survival rate following major
operative procedures.

Further the present invention is premised on the realization that a diet
high in vitamin E has a similar effect on the immune response system. In
combination a diet high in vitamin E as well as a diet high in linoleic acid
provides a significant improvement in the immune response systems of
patients prior to operative procedures.

Other objects and advantages of the present invention will be appreciated in
light of the following detailed description.

DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE INVENTION

In order to improve the immune response system of surgical patients, the
patient is provided a diet which is high in the omega 6 fatty acid linoleic
acid and further is provided with a diet which is high in vitamin E. By
ingesting the diet prior to operative procedures the resistance to infection
by the patient is significantly improved.

For purposes of the present invention, major operative procedures would
include any operative procedure requiring general anethesia that has a risk
of infection including patients suffering from malnutrition. Basically the
resistance to infection of a patient prior to any operative procedure could
be improved by the present invention.

The diet for use in the present invention will include a source of protein,
a source of carbohydrate, and a source of fats, i.e., fatty acids. In
addition to these compositions the diet will include vitamin and mineral
supplement.

The diet which can be either designed to be a parenteral diet or an enteral
diet depending on the patient will be generally an aqueous mixture of
protein (amino acid), carbohydrate and fat along with vitamin and mineral
sources. The total calories in the diet which should be ingested by the
patient will be from about 20 to about 60 kilocalories per kilogram body
weight per day. The total energy needs vary according to the individual.
Generally acceptable limits are well known and are set forth by the National
Research Counsel in the Recommended Daily Allowance.

The total calories of the diet will be derived from the carbohydrates, the
protein and the fats. Generally it is desirable that from about 12 to about
25% of the total calories be provided by the protein. For an enteral diet
suitable sources of protein would include milk proteins, soy protein and
others. It is also preferable to include 1-2% arginine. For a parenteral
diet a combination of amino acids should be employed instead of the protein.
These can include leucine, lysine, valine, isoleucine, phenylalanine,
threonine, methionine, histidinine, tryptophan. These are considered the
essential amino acids. Other non-essential amino acids can include glutamic
acid, proline, aspartic acid, serine, arginine, alanine, glycine, glutamine
and tyrosine. These are considered the non-essential amino acids. These
would be provided generally in a total parental nutrition diet.

Further from about 10 to 70% of the total calories of the diet should be
provided by the carbohydrate source. A wide variety of simple sugars can be
used as a source of carbohydrates such as for example dextrose, fructose,
sucrose and the like in combinations. Enteral diets should include complex
carbohydrates such as corn starch and dextrins.

From about 20 to about 80% of the total calories of the diet should be
derived from lipids. Generally 20 to 60% of the diet calories will be
derived from lipid. From about 50 to about 100% and generally 50-70% of the
calories of these lipids should be derived from linoleic acid. A major
source of linoleic acid is safflower oil which contains from about 70 to
about 85% linoleic acid. However, linoleic acid can be purchased and used.

In addition to the protein, carbohydrate and fatty acid the diet should
include a source of vitamins as well as minerals. In particular the present
invention should be relatively high in vitamin E. The diet should include
about 100 to about 1,000 IU per day of vitamin E. Generally the amount of
vitamin E will be about 100 to 300 IU per day until the day immediately
prior to surgery when the amount of vitamin E should be increased to about
1,000 IU per day. In addition to vitamin E the diet of the present invention
should include 5,000-10,000 IU micrograms retinol equivalents vitamin A per
day, 400 IU per day of vitamin D, 1-5 grams per day of vitamin C, 0.4
milligrams of folic acid, 20 milligrams per day of niacin, 2 milligrams per
day of riboflavin, 1.5 milligrams per day of thiamine, 2 milligrams per day
of vitamin B6, 3 micrograms per day of vitamin B12, 1.5 grams per day of
calcium, 1.5 grams per day of phosphorous, 150 micrograms per day of iodine,
10 milligrams per day of iron and 400 milligrams per day of magnesium. With
the exception of the vitamin E the above components can be varied widely
and/or eliminated without departing from the present invention.

An exemplary enteral formulation of the present invention will include the
following:


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Whey protein 20% total calories
Safflower oil 50% total calories
Dextrins 30% total calories
Vitamin A 5,000 micrograms retinol
equivalents/liter
Vitamin D 200 IU/1
Vitamin E 50 IU/1
Vitamin C 2 gms/1
Folic Acid 200 micrograms/liter
Niacin 10 mg/l
Riboflavin 1 mg/l
Thiamine 750 micrograms/liter
Vitamin B6 1 mg/l
Vitamin B12 1.5 micrograms/liter
Calcium 750 mg/l
Phosphorous 750 mg/l
Iodine 75 micrograms/liter
Iron 5 mg/liter
Magnesium 200 mg/liter
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This diet has a caloric content of 1 calorie per ml.

The diet of the present invention is administered to a patient for a time
effective to improve the immune response of the patient. Generally it is
administered for 14 days prior to the operative procedure. The diet should
be administered to the patient at least 10 days prior to the operative
procedure. This can be increased up to six weeks depending upon the need of
the patient and the state of debilitation. In the event a weight gain is
necessary prior to the operative procedure the diet can be administered and
ingested by the patient for whatever period of time necessary to develop the
weight gain.

With respect to the vitamin E this can be excluded from the diet although it
provides substantial beneficial results and should be provided at about 100
to 300 IU per day. On the day immediately prior to surgery the diet should
be supplemented with additional vitamin E up to 1,000 IU per day in order to
further improve the immune response system.

In order to test the efficacy of the present invention animal models were
employed. In order to simulate the effect of major surgery the test animals
were fed various diets and then subjected to a burn as indicated below. They
were then infected with Pseudomonas aeruginosa. The survival rate of the
mice after two weeks then provided an indication of the effect of diet on
the immune system.

EXAMPLE

Female albino inbred (Balb/c) mice were obtained from Charles River
Suppliers and allowed to acclimate in laboratory facilities for one week.
They were housed five in a cage in a room with twelve hour alternating light
and dark cycles and given water and natural chow (Wayne Rodent Blox) ad
libitum. The animals were then weighed and begun on experimental diets ad
libitum. The mice were fed several different diets prior to the burn. The
natural diet is composed of soybean meal, fishmeal, corn and wheat and by
weight contains 24% protein, 4% fat, and 4.5% fiber. A purified diet was
formed by weight containing 20% protein as casein, 65% carbohydrate as
sucrose and corn starch, 5% fat as corn oil, 5% fiber as purified cellulose
and vitamins and minerals. The purified diet was then modified by
substituting other fat sources and for a high fat diet, increasing the fat
content. When the amount of fat was increased to 20% a weighted reduction in
sucrose and corn starch was made. Thus the low fat diets contained 5% by
weight fat which was 12% of the total calories and 15% of non-protein
calories. The high fat diets contain 20% fat by weight which is 40% of the
total calories and 50% of the non-protein calories.

The fatty acid compositions of the fat sources were determined with gas
liquid chromatography. The oils, coconut oil, corn oil, oleic acid and
safflower oil were all of food grade and obtained from ICN Biochemicals. The
MaxEPA oil was donated by R. P. Ssherer Corporation.

Chromatographic analysis of the fats used in the diets yielded the following
results. The fatty acid composition of the corn oil was 45% myristic acid,
31% linoleic acid and 23% palmitic acid. Composition of corn oil used in the
purified control diet was 50% linoleic acid, 29% oleic acid and 16% palmitic
acid. The composition of the MaxEPA oil was 28% palmitic acid, 18% oleic
acid and 18% eicosapentaenoic acid, 15% docosahexaenoic acid and 4% linoleic
acid. The total omega 3 content of MaxEPA was thus 37%. The fatty acid
composition of natural chow used for control was 47% linoleic acid, 24%
oleic acid and 17% palmitic acid and 5% linoleic acid. The composition of
the food grade oleic acids in the diets was 78% oleic acid, 14% palmitic
acid, 4% linoleic acid and 4% myristic acid. The composition of the
safflower oil was 91% linoleic acid, 8% palmitic acid (which represents a
higher amount of linoleic acid than was commonly found in safflower oil
usual range 70-80%).

At the end of two weeks they were again weighed and the fur was clipped from
their back. General anesthesia was obtained with methoxyfluorane and a 1.5
inch by 2 inch Teflon template was applied to the dorsum of the animal. The
exposed area was saturated with 95% ethanol and ignited for 12 seconds. The
animal was then fluid resuscitated with 1 ml PBS. Sixteen to eighteen hours
after burning 2.5.times.10.sup.5 viable Pseudomonas aeruginosa were injected
subeschar. Mortality was noted over the next week and the survivors were
sacrificed with CO.sub.2 euthanasia. The first experiment compared the
natural control diet to the purified high fat diets, i.e., the diet with
high safflower oil content (20% by weight) and the high MaxEPA fat content
(20% by weight). The second experiment compared the natural control diet to
the purified low fat diets, i.e., the low safflower oil diet (5% by weight)
and the low MaxEPA oil diet (5% by weight). The third experiment compared
the purified control diet to the purified high fat diets. The fourth
experiment compared four high fat diets using coconut oil, MaxEPA, oleic
acid and safflower oil all at 20% by weight.

The survival rate of the mice and their respective diet are listed in Table
I.


TABLE I
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Experiment 1
Natural Chow 33%
MaxEPA (20%) 40%
Safflower Oil (20%)
67%
Experiment 2
Natural Chow 41%
MaxEPA (5%) 39%
Safflower Oil (5%)
47%
Experiment 3
Purified Diet 44%
MaxEPA (20%) 18%
Safflower Oil (20%)
54%
Experiment 4
Safflower Oil (20%)
87%
Oleic Acid (20%) 53%
Coconut Oil (20%) 55%
MaxEPA (20%) 30%
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In a related experiment Balb/c mice were subjected to a 20% total body
surface area third degree flame burn under general anesthesia and
resuscitated. Viable Pseudomonas aeruginosa were injected subeschar the next
day. Three groups were tested. Vitamin E was given by Gavage in doses of 2.5
IU, 25 IU and 250 IU on four consecutive days, the two days before burn the
day of burn and the day of infection. Survival was improved in the 25 and
250 IU/kg groups compared to control. Vitamin E was then given by Gavage on
day 0, day 1 or day 2 in three doses. Mortality in the 2.5 and 25 IU groups
on day 1 was worse than control or high dose. Accordingly, providing vitamin
E given at least 25 IU (greater than 10 times the RDA for mice) by Gavage
prior to injury and continued thereafter for two days does improve survival.
The benefit is not seen if vitamin E is not started prior to injury.

This accordingly provides a very useful pre-operative diet including both a
high concentration of linoleic acid and a high (greater than 10 times RDA)
vitamin E content. A patient's ingesting this diet prior to operative
procedures will substantially reduce the likelihood of developing an
infection.

The preceding has been a description of the preferred embodiment of the
present invention as well as the best mode of the invention currently known.
However, the invention is to be defined only by the appended claims wherein
we claim:




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Re: Lignans..Question

Pat and Gail Muldowney
 

Hi, Does anyone know if colloidal silver is the same as microdyn which is
used to kill parasites on fruits and vegetables in third world countries
such as Mexico. Also catching on in the U.S. Thanks, Pat in Mexico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat and Gail Muldowney" <sleeper@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I can't tell but I guess I'm asking this question of Michael Falls. Isn't
colloidal silver the same as mycrodin you soak your fruits and vegetables
in
when you live in a third world country like Mexico? Also heard it was the
first antibiotic. Thanks, Pat in Mexico
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From: "william falls" <wfalls@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some
very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and
external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars
Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing
some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want
more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at
silver-list@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Miz Judy & Mel <mrjau@...>
To: Flax oil2 <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question



I want to be sure it is bright yellow oil off the top of the bottle
before
mixing with the Lignans.CLiff what would the Lingnans do? Harm the eye
or
what? Does this make the flaxseed oil gritty.

.Miz Judy





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Re: Topics

william falls
 

Thank you, Cliff! I have the utmost respect for you and the group!In the
time I have been here, I have tons more knowledge on FSO than ever before!
You are truly going a good work, Cliff! Your freind, Lorie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOIl2@...>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 6:19 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Topics


Dear Lorie,

We love you. Don't worry about it. These things are stimulating.

We do want to keep this list for Flaxseed Oil topics. We haven't time for
a
general discussion group.

However, if something like this needs to brought to attention, maybe a
little won't hurt.

I have been reading about it from another source and I am impressed.
Perhaps it can help the flax oil keep me well.

If you know how to access the CS group let us know. I am sure we can go
to
yahoo groups and find it.

Don't feel chastized. We are doing nicely.

Cliff



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Colloidal silver list

Joel Agee
 

Cliff (and anyone else interested),

Here is the address of a colloidal silver list:


Joel


There are Doctors and there are Doctors.

Lorenzo
 

There are Doctors and there are Doctors.

I was not there! But in year 1919 my Father had both legs broken with
compound fractures. "The" Dr. planned to saw them off above the knee. (
My family has X-rays)

Well! The Doctors wife was a Doctor; She said we can save his legs.
Well I came on the scene years later- My Father's legs looked fine! He
did not even limp. That lady was right!

Would you belive that we trust Doctors "incompletely" in general and a
little more as needed.


Best Regards, Lorenzo



Hi,

There never will be scientific studies acceptable to the medical
establishment concerning the use of FO/CC. There are only accounts of
what
is happening and observations.

A few months ago a man and wife stopped by. A teacher at a local school

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Re: Topics

william falls
 

silver-list@...

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From: "William Brainerd" <wbrainerd@...>
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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Topics


Gee Guys....so how do you log on to the CS discussion group? Something
NHY
failed to add but I'm sure the other stuff was more pertinent at the time.
So.....How do we log on to the CS discussion group? Thanks.


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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 4:49 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Topics


Hi NYH,

Very well put. There are reasons for discussing other things at times
but
they need to be related to the use of FlaxSeedOIl.

I want to try Colloidal Silver. I have heard of it before. However,
information pertaining to it would better be gained from a group
majoring
in
that area.

There is nothing wrong with logging on to that group as well. I would
if
I
had more time.

Cliff



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Interesting News

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi,

There never will be scientific studies acceptable to the medical
establishment concerning the use of FO/CC. There are only accounts of what
is happening and observations.

A few months ago a man and wife stopped by. A teacher at a local school
had told them about FO/CC.

The lady had a hard tumor in her upper right arm and she was virtually
unable to use her hand.

The doctors were urging her to let them amputate her arm to try and save her
life.

She refused and began using FO/CC. I don't know the amount but I think it
was around 4 tablespoons a day.

By the time she was here the tumor had softened considerably and she was
regaining the use of her arm.

Recently we moved to a new church and we just realized that one of her
nieces was a member. She told me today that her aunt Dorothy was doing very
well, her energy level was high and she was using her arm normally.

Thinking about things like this and people looking for the testimony of a
doctor involved I realize that there is no doctor involved. The advice of
himself and a surgeon had been refused.

The doctor would not write up anything like this. It is only those of us
involved who will make any observations.

Cliff


Topics

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi NYH,

Very well put. There are reasons for discussing other things at times but
they need to be related to the use of FlaxSeedOIl.

I want to try Colloidal Silver. I have heard of it before. However,
information pertaining to it would better be gained from a group majoring in
that area.

There is nothing wrong with logging on to that group as well. I would if I
had more time.

Cliff


Colloidal Silver (OT)

 

For those interested in Colloidal Silver, there is a group, like this
one, dedicated just to that topic where your answers can be answered
by the "pros" in that subject. IMHO, it would be like someone with
prostate cancer asking about using flaxseed oil with CC on the
colloidal silver list. It would start a whole topic by people
reporting their opinions while having little knowledge, instead of
directing that person here to this list where those with the best
knowledge would be able to answer any questions.

In addition, I think continuing the CS discussion under the topic of
"questions about lignans" is misleading and detrimental to the group.
If I was seeking information to decide the pros or cons using high
lignan oil and all I saw was a discussion on colloidal silver, I would
come to the fast conclusion that this group was not the place to find
an answer to my questions about Flaxseed Oil.

Please change the "Subject" headings if you wish to discuss another
topic. If it is not about Flaxseed, it would also be very courteous
to put an "(OT)" after the subject title to let others it was about an
off-topic matter being discussed and not about Flaxseed.

Having three different and totally unrelated subjects being discussed
under one thread, as has been done here on numerous occasions, is very
confusing. It only takes a few seconds to type in a new subject line.

If every specific board set up to discuss a SPECIFIC health matter
becomes a GENERAL health discussions board, then each message board
becomes less useful to those seeking information on those specific
topics because they have to read hundreds of off topic messages to get
to the meat they are seeking. Few readers will do so. As a
result, they will leave with little facts about Flaxseed Oil to help
making their decisions.

I use FO/CC as my primary means to attack prostate cancer. I'm
betting my life on it after examining many other alternatives. I only
than God I came across Cliff's original articles that got my research
on Flaxseed Oil started. In all candor, if I had come here to this
group in the past year, having heard about FO/CC somewhere else, I
would be using a different therapy now. I would not be using FO/CC.
I am the type of person that believes it is improper to ask simple
questions. I assume that would be answered in the prior posts. I
only ask questions after reading and not understanding a point someone
made.. I read many existing posts before I would think of asking a
question. I have two message groups myself and KNOW that only about
20% of the members even post a single messages ever, question or
answer. The balance of members just read them. And a greater number
never even join, so they just read messages. With all the posts this
year and with so many off topic and yet not marked, I would assume no
one here really cared that much about Flaxseed oil... that it had
become more of a health related chat board where flaxseed oil was just
an occasional topic along with many others. So I would have likely
moved on and be betting my life on another therapy now.

Not trying to start anything here. These are just my opinions. You
are all free to agree or not.

Regards,
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Re: Lignans..Question

scams
 

Hi Lorie, I would appreciate it very much if you could share the scientific
data you mentioned about colloidal silver. Thanks for any help, Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: "william falls" <wfalls@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


The uses of CS are new to me, but there is scientific studies done that it
has the kill power to kill over 600 known microbes and that no known
microbes could survive after CS was used! Does it kill Anthrax? They
definately say it does! It is being used for a host of things, from
shingles, to athletes foot, to bronchial infections, mouth problems,with
the
tongue and teeth,yeast infections... the list goes on and on! Lorie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat and Gail Muldowney" <sleeper@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I can't tell but I guess I'm asking this question of Michael Falls.
Isn't
colloidal silver the same as mycrodin you soak your fruits and
vegetables
in
when you live in a third world country like Mexico? Also heard it was
the
first antibiotic. Thanks, Pat in Mexico
----- Original Message -----
From: "william falls" <wfalls@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some
very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and
external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars
Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing
some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very
good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS
is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon
of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want
more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It
is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on
it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at
silver-list@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Miz Judy & Mel <mrjau@...>
To: Flax oil2 <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question



I want to be sure it is bright yellow oil off the top of the bottle
before
mixing with the Lignans.CLiff what would the Lingnans do? Harm the
eye
or
what? Does this make the flaxseed oil gritty.

.Miz Judy





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Re: Lignans..Question

william falls
 

The uses of CS are new to me, but there is scientific studies done that it
has the kill power to kill over 600 known microbes and that no known
microbes could survive after CS was used! Does it kill Anthrax? They
definately say it does! It is being used for a host of things, from
shingles, to athletes foot, to bronchial infections, mouth problems,with the
tongue and teeth,yeast infections... the list goes on and on! Lorie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat and Gail Muldowney" <sleeper@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I can't tell but I guess I'm asking this question of Michael Falls. Isn't
colloidal silver the same as mycrodin you soak your fruits and vegetables
in
when you live in a third world country like Mexico? Also heard it was the
first antibiotic. Thanks, Pat in Mexico
----- Original Message -----
From: "william falls" <wfalls@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some
very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and
external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars
Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing
some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want
more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at
silver-list@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Miz Judy & Mel <mrjau@...>
To: Flax oil2 <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question



I want to be sure it is bright yellow oil off the top of the bottle
before
mixing with the Lignans.CLiff what would the Lingnans do? Harm the eye
or
what? Does this make the flaxseed oil gritty.

.Miz Judy





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Re: Lignans..Question

william falls
 

I sure believe it is one and the same! I am just learning and am getting
excited! If you would like info on what Colloidal Silver has been doing
lately, let me know... Lorie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat and Gail Muldowney" <sleeper@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I can't tell but I guess I'm asking this question of Michael Falls. Isn't
colloidal silver the same as mycrodin you soak your fruits and vegetables
in
when you live in a third world country like Mexico? Also heard it was the
first antibiotic. Thanks, Pat in Mexico
----- Original Message -----
From: "william falls" <wfalls@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some
very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and
external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars
Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing
some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want
more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at
silver-list@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Miz Judy & Mel <mrjau@...>
To: Flax oil2 <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question



I want to be sure it is bright yellow oil off the top of the bottle
before
mixing with the Lignans.CLiff what would the Lingnans do? Harm the eye
or
what? Does this make the flaxseed oil gritty.

.Miz Judy





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Re: Lignans..Question

 

In a message dated 10/19/2001 10:21:49 AM Central Daylight Time, joantroutt@... writes:


Great fo rear infections.?


In what way?


Re: Lignans..Question

Pat and Gail Muldowney
 

I can't tell but I guess I'm asking this question of Michael Falls. Isn't
colloidal silver the same as mycrodin you soak your fruits and vegetables in
when you live in a third world country like Mexico? Also heard it was the
first antibiotic. Thanks, Pat in Mexico

----- Original Message -----
From: "william falls" <wfalls@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing some
very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters Plantars Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been experiencing
some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The CS is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a gallon of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone want more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it. It is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info on it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at silver-list@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


I used that once and it my eye feel a little gritty.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Miz Judy & Mel <mrjau@...>
To: Flax oil2 <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question



I want to be sure it is bright yellow oil off the top of the bottle
before
mixing with the Lignans.CLiff what would the Lingnans do? Harm the eye
or
what? Does this make the flaxseed oil gritty.

.Miz Judy





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Re: Lignans..Question

 

At 04:45 PM 10/19/2001 +0000, you wrote:

I've tried it for tthree months, and it made no difference in my
health at all.? Echinacea and golden seal worked much better,
especially with flu-like symptoms.? And for infection, I use oil of
oregano but not much - only one or two drops.


Perhaps the dosage was not appropriate for your weight?? Coloidal Silver & Oil of Oregano would attack pathogens whereas Echinacea & Golden Seal stimulate the immune system.


Re: Lignans..Question

william falls
 

Hi! From the testimonies that we have read or heard about, CS has a definite
positive effect on cancer!Incidentally, My daughters Plantars Wart is almost
gone! After 2 days! Beats goin to the Dr. to have it burnt off any day!!! I
would definately suggest trying it! Lorie

----- Original Message -----
From: <lotecq@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:45 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Lignans..Question


I've tried it for tthree months, and it made no difference in my
health at all. Echinacea and golden seal worked much better,
especially with flu-like symptoms. And for infection, I use oil of
oregano but not much - only one or two drops.
lotecq

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@y..., "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@u...> wrote:
Hi,

I have read a lot about Colloidal Silver and would try it but never
got
around to it.

I would suspect that the FO/CC would be the main weapon against
cancer with
the Colloidal Silver fighting other things that would tend to make
the whole
battle more difficult.

I don't know. I would like to try Colloidal Silver.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: william falls <wfalls@p...>
To: FlaxSeedOil2@y... <FlaxSeedOil2@y...>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing
some very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and
external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters
Plantars Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been
experiencing some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very
good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The
CS is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a
gallon of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone
want more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it.
It is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@p...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info
on it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at silver-list@e...


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Colloidal Silver

Miz Judy & Mel
 

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Joan..post an article on Natural Well Being, about Colloidal Silver?, and everything you use it for. This might be an interesting subject to talk about. Thanks Miz Judy
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Miz Judy & Mel
 

sending again , for corrections: But this is the best I can do as many of the below data is from other sources..


I think for you to pull this page in, you'll need to use the scroll bar at the bottom of your screen. But make sure you read every little thing, then decide for yourself if Quark and Cottage Cheese are different.. ( I know they are ) but I want you to read and figure it out for yourself. I've made cottage cheese many, many times..and it is not QUARK..

To make cottage Cheese: You must take the morning- milk from the cow, and let it sit out to sour. We would leave ours sit in a glass gallon jug at room temperature. And the next morning, just barely bring it to a BABY-warm temperature, on a low heat. I stired the old fashion way, Mel's mother taught me to do.. using my elbow, constantly without stopping stir. ( make sure the elbow is well scrubbed,Using no soap residue on the elbow either. And, mens harry arms: please no way should they be stirring cottage cheese. )..when the milk begins to feel a wee-warm, like feeding to an infant..immediately take it from the burner. Let it sit again until the whey comes to the top. DRAIN the whey off ( use it to mix in chicken or hog feed) Take the white curd and strain in a good three layer Cheese cloth ( not a paint net cloth, this will not do )..Hang the cheese over a pan to drain. I had a special handmade rack I hung ours over, and sat it above the kitchen sink. When well drained put the curd of cheese into another bowl, add enough cream to soften, and a little salt and herbs to flavor..( never use more cream then necessary. sometimes you will get larger lumps, if you want small curd add wee-more cream. And keep this in mind, some days makes better cheese than another. I found that a hot-humid day after rains in a warm kitchen done a marvelous job. You can also use cottage cheese, without putting cream in it, season to taste..and add to casseroles..or eat as is. Fruits ( well drained can also be addred...left plain be stirred into jello-0's.. And in FLAXSEED OIL, use it most likely anyway you prefer. BUT AGAIN remember this: our cows were fed and lived on organic pastures, and feeds that we grinded ourselves. ( Oh how we do miss the farming life, this is when we stayed so much more healthier.. If we'd known even thn what we know today..we'd probably have neve had the illness that came along after we retired. Now days a farmer isn't allowed to sell milk he can get into a heap of law/trouble. But if you are a farmer, you're allowed using your own milk for food supply.

I know what quarks are, but I once heard a story about how they came
to be called quarks. Whoever decided to call them quarks thought
"quark" meant something wonderful. I can't remember what that
something wonderful was. But then I heard that "quark" means "cream
cheese" in German.

A Nonsense poem..

Three quarks for Muster Mark!
Sure he hasn't got much of a bark,
And sure any he has it's all beside the mark.
But O, Wreneagle Almighty, would't un be a sky of a lark
To see that old buzzard whooping about us for uns shirt in the dark
And he hunting round for uns speckled trousers around by Palmerston Park?

So basically, quarks were named from a nonsensical poem to describe what was at the time a fanciful idea which few took seriously. qwark A soft, unripened CHEESE with the texture and flavor of sour cream, Quark comes in two versions--lowfat and nonfat. Though the calories are the same (35 per ounce), the texture of lowfat Quark is richer than that of lowfat sour cream. It has a milder flavor and richer texture than lowfat yogurt. Quark can be used as a sour cream substitute to top baked potatoes, and as an ingredient in a variety of dishes including cheesecakes, dips, salads and sauces.



On another note, the German Quark is actually something between yogurt and cream cheese, and it can be bought plain, with fruit, or with seasonings such as garlic and onion or chives. When working at the DESY laboratory in Hamburg on my thesis experiment, I used to enjoy fruit-flavored Quark for dessert in the cafeteria there. "Quark" can also be used in German to refer to something which is silly or nonsensical, and it may have been a source of discomfort for early German theorists trying to describe this new idea to their skeptical colleagues. :-)














Quark: A funny name for a good cheese that's little known in the U.S.
August 30, 2000

By Sarene Wallace
Scripps Howard News Service








Quark is a quirky little word whose definition depends on a person's point of reference.


To Star Trek: Deep Space Nine fans, it's a character's name; desktop publishers say it's a computer program. James Joyce would say it's a word he fabricated for Finnegan's Wake. And The Random House Dictionary states it's "any of three types of elementary particles that are believed to form the basis of all matter." A cheese aficionado's response? Quark is a fresh, uncured cow's milk cheese popular in Germany and little known here.

That is, until you try it. Crafted by artisan cheese makers in the United States, quark introduces itself as an amalgamation of dairy's already familiar tastes and textures. Quark has the dense creaminess of sour cream or homemade yogurt cheese and is laced with small cottage cheese-type curds. Some people include ricotta in their comparisons. What this means, is that quark has more in common with dairy's plastic tubs of creamy, white spoonables than cheese's grate-"em-slice-"em blocks. That goes for its aroma and taste, too. As a spoonful of nonfat quark wafts sour cream's tanginess, a taste reveals the more pronounced zing of yogurt cheese.

From appetizers to desserts, quark fills in for, or augments, any these products. When it does, quark slims down dishes without reducing their flavor or texture.

Use quark as a foundation for healthy dips or salad dressings, a cracker topping when mixed with assorted herbs, or baked potato topper. Add quark to manicotti, Greek spanakopita, or cheese blintzes fillings, or mix it into noodle kugel, and brunch stratas.

For dessert, mix quark into cheesecake, bread pudding, or clafouti recipes. Quark has 70 calories per one-half cup serving; it contains some calcium, 5 mg of cholesterol and 13 g of protein.

Available at specialty grocers, quark can be stored in the refrigerator for up to two weeks.

I almost forgot quarks' other culinary definition: a versatile, tasty cheese with a fun-to-say name.


LEMON LIMECHEESECAKE

For the crust:

1/3 cup sugar

3 1/2 tablespoons unsalted butter, softened

2 tablespoons beaten egg

3 tablespoons milk

1/2 teaspoon vanilla

3/4 cup all-purpose flour

1/4 teaspoon salt

1/4 teaspoon double-acting baking powder

1/4 teaspoon baking soda

1 cup sweetened flaked coconut

1/3 cup finely chopped macadamia nuts

For the filling:

1 envelope of gelatin

1/4 cup fresh lime juice

1/3 cup fresh lemon juice

1 cup quark

1/3 cup sour cream

1 cup sugar

1 1/2 cups well-chilled heavy cream

Strawberry fans for garnish, optional

Crust: In a bowl, cream to gether the sugar and butter and beat in the egg, milk, and vanilla. In another bowl, stir together the flour, salt, baking powder, baking soda, coconut, and macadamia nuts. Stir the flour mixture into the sugar mixture. Spread it into a 9 inch greased pie pan and bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes, or until the crust is golden. Let the crust cool.

Filling: In a small saucepan, sprinkle the gelatin over the lime and lemon juices and let it soften for 5 minutes. In a bowl, whisk together the quark, sour cream, and sugar. Heat the gelatin mixture over low heat until the gelatin is dissolved, and stir it into the quark mixture. In the bowl of an electric mixer, beat the cream until it holds stiff peaks, and fold it into the quark mixture. Pour the filling over the crust and chill, covered lightly, overnight.

Garnish each slice of cheesecake with strawberry fans.

I don't like to advertise on any of my list..but in this case I find this little Quark making mahine not such a bad price, if you're daring to make your own Quark.



Home Page > Houseware >


Quark Maker

The Quark-Yogurt maker can be used for making Quark, yogurt, sour cream, buttermilk, and cheese, making this machine an essential part of today's healthy diet. Quark, an integral part of European culture, is hard to find in North America. Making your own Quark is easy and will only cost a fraction compared to store bought Quark. In addition, it will be free of preservatives and other additives. Let's follow our Grandparents with fresh, healthy, Quark .

It's simple to make Quark with this kit and a little work. You buy 1 quart of buttermilk, put it into the machine and wait. The included timer has been preset for the exact time. Next, line a colander (not included) with the flour sack towel, pour the thickened buttermilk into it, and let it drain for 2 hours. That's it - a pound of Quark has been made, and it can be stored for up to one week in the refrigerator.

The yogurt maker has been made by Salton-Maxim and is backed by a one year manufacturer warranty. It has been enhanced exclusively for the German Corner to make Quark. The entire kit includes the yogurt maker, timer, flour sack towel, instructions for Quark and yogurt making, and recipes.

Weight, 2 lbs 8 oz., Catalog ID: 35001, $35.00



















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Re: Lignans..Question

 

I've tried it for tthree months, and it made no difference in my
health at all. Echinacea and golden seal worked much better,
especially with flu-like symptoms. And for infection, I use oil of
oregano but not much - only one or two drops.
lotecq

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@y..., "Cliff Beckwith" <spinner@u...> wrote:
Hi,

I have read a lot about Colloidal Silver and would try it but never
got
around to it.

I would suspect that the FO/CC would be the main weapon against
cancer with
the Colloidal Silver fighting other things that would tend to make
the whole
battle more difficult.

I don't know. I would like to try Colloidal Silver.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: william falls <wfalls@p...>
To: FlaxSeedOil2@y... <FlaxSeedOil2@y...>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lignans..Question


Hi Cliff! Have you ever heard of Colloidal Silver? We are hearing
some very
exciting stories about it, concerning, Cancer, many internal, and
external
maladies. We generate our own and are treating our daughters
Plantars Wart
with it by soaking! I drank some tonight after I had been
experiencing some
Flu-like symptoms, and I feel great now!! We are getting some very
good
feed
back on people who are treating thier Cancer with it and FSO! The
CS is
totally antibacterial/antifungal, and 1 ounce will clean up a
gallon of
yucky water to make it drinkable! It is facinating stuff! Anyone
want more
info, please email me, I will share with you what I know about it.
It is
very amazing stuff! Thanks, Lorie wfalls@p...
Incidentally, my Father -in Law is a Lab tech and has all the info
on it
and
actually makes the generators to enable one to generate his/her own
Colloidal Silver. you can access the CS website at silver-list@e...